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There's Evil In You Chillun BTW, for our international friends “chillun” is Deep South USA for children  Janice and I left our bluegrass band in 2003 and for nearly 10 years we rarely picked up our instruments or recorded. Since we had both retired in 1999 we had more things we were interested in than gigging (mountain biking, hiking and kayaking). But we continued to listen to music of many genres over the years. Three years ago I stumbled into BiaB after buying an iMac, noodling around with Garageband that came on it and getting interested in its recording capabilities. That (and some googling) lead me to PGMusic. BiaB offered us a chance to ease back into making music and explore new genres. Our first posts here on the User Forum in 2012 were rehashes of our bluegrass writes. A public domain tune, Evil Chillun, was our first real venture away from bluegrass into another genre — Western Swing for that tune. And, the response it received (three years ago this month) on this forum was what put us on the Americana journey that we continue to travel. I recently revisited the song and decided to reconstruct it with the original vocal track. Hopefully I’ve learned a bit more about the use of Biab, mixing and mastering over the last three years. Evil Chillun is from the very early Western Swing tune period when a “sock rhythm” acoustic guitar and/or mandolin provided a lot of the upbeat on top of a minimalist drum kit. Also it was typical that the upcoming soloist would play pretty hot under the vocalist leading up to the solo. We tried to incorporate all of this. So….here’s the new version. And many thanks to PGMusic and this great community for putting us on this three year adventure and for all of the support. Pardon the ramble and your time to listen is always appreciated! Dedicated to the memory of our best friend and mentor RANDY HOWARD 12 time National Fiddle Champion and much, much more. He tore this stuff up. RIP. J&B Drums: Nashville 8th’s SW Bass: RT 445 Guitar Rhythm: RT 1028 Mandolin Rhythm: RT 599 Mandolin Solo: RT 1862 (comped from multiple regens) Fiddle Rhythm: RT 1296 Fiddle Solo: RT 1871 (comped from multiple regens) Piano Rhythm: RT 1993 Piano Solo: RT 1865 (comped from multiple regens) Effects/Mastering: Nectar 2 and Ozone 6 Vocal: Janice Arrangement, mixing/mastering: Bud There’s Evil In You Chillun Creative Commons - Public Domain archive.org/details/SonsOfTheWest-11-20 (link no longer valid)
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Nice, nice, nice. I haven't heard your original version for comparison but no matter.
This is totally up to your normal standards in Janice vocals and Bud's arrangement, mixing and mastering.
Let's just say there's magic in you two chillun'!!!
Your mastery over the Biab technology far exceeds my recollection of my early years experimenting with modern technology. I can still recall my mother yelling to me out the back door -- "Charlie, get away from that wheelbarrow! You know you don't know nothin' bout machinery!"
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Loved it. A real toe taper.
Everything as usual is top shelf, super mix, great choice of RTs and of course Janice's super vocals.
If I had hear this is a record shop I would have bought it.
I just posted a selfie and all of the responses were get well soon!
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Hi there J&B.
Wonderful stuff.
Thanks for the background information - I'm always interested how the music is constructed for different genres.
Terrific backing with well chosen solos and the mix sounded great.
And, of course, I love to hear Janice sing. Brilliant.
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This is a cool cover! We also listened to the original version (which is also nice but sounds kind of crackling ;-)
Top-notch production as usual, well arranged and very well sung!
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Very cool song. Loved it.
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As I was reading that I thought what a great testimonial for BIAB!
I'll steal RnAm's comment -
"Top-notch production as usual, well arranged and very well sung!"
Ditto.
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Nice, nice, nice. I haven't heard your original version for comparison but no matter.
This is totally up to your normal standards in Janice vocals and Bud's arrangement, mixing and mastering.
Let's just say there's magic in you two chillun'!!!
Your mastery over the Biab technology far exceeds my recollection of my early years experimenting with modern technology. I can still recall my mother yelling to me out the back door -- "Charlie, get away from that wheelbarrow! You know you don't know nothin' bout machinery!"
Charlie, you are too kind. My mantra with BiaB is "keep it simple stupid." I've learned my limits and, yep, they are influenced by my age and reticence to keep taking on more and more new digital products. I deeply admire the loops, and midi stuff and huge numbers of RT's that folks can arrange into masterful productions. I just don't think I could ever do that. I guess it's from years of playing in a 4 or 5 piece bluegrass band but I have to imagine that my productions are a small group and I'm looking at their backsides playing bass and also working the house/monitor system -- as I did for years, i.e., I have to approach this whole thing as though I'm mixing a live band. That scenario I understand and strive through BiaB to relive. Thanks again for the very nice comments! Bud Loved it. A real toe taper.
Everything as usual is top shelf, super mix, great choice of RTs and of course Janice's super vocals.
If I had hear this is a record shop I would have bought it.
Thanks man, and you don't have to buy it...it's free!!! We appreciate you. Bud
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Great arrangement, really nice southern style, and the fiddle fits in perfectly. Absolutely sensational vocal. The mandolin certainly wasn't out of place either.
I like the way you comped the solos too, great outcome.
Overall top class delivery, thanks!
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J&B, I like simplicity as you can tell by my songs. KISS has always been my philosophy and what you guys do brings out the best in both of you. Good song, production, lyrics, vocals and BIAB choses. I enjoyed listening and thanks for sharing.
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Janice & Bud.
Superb! You make it hard to comment I'd rather just listen.
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Hi there J&B.
Wonderful stuff.
Thanks for the background information - I'm always interested how the music is constructed for different genres.
Terrific backing with well chosen solos and the mix sounded great.
And, of course, I love to hear Janice sing. Brilliant.
ROG. Thanks ROG! Glad you liked it and thanks for taking the time to listen and offer these comments. They are much appreciated. J&B
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cool jukin song.
Nice quality fiddle, mando and piano sounds in the solos
regeneration is the secret to smoking hot solos
ever read the book... Children of the corn? Talk about evil chillin....
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Hi Janice & Bud,
I remember this was your first song posted. But I can't remember what it really sounded like. Your new version blooms with Janice's vocals and Bud's arrangement, mixing and mastering. I'm especially impressed by the great solos of the different instruments.
Very enjoyable listen.
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Nice Jammin' tune!! Really well arranged (and of course sung-we would not expect any less). Solos worked perfectly. Another excellent contribution from the dynamic duo!! Take care. Greg
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Hi Janice & Bud,
Is this a cool song ... or what? I've always loved western Swing. Asleep At The Wheel is one of my favorite listens. Everything about this is superb. And Janice's voice sets perfectly in this great mix. What a treat ... thanks guys!
Alan
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J&B, As usual this has a fantastic arrangement , mix and vocal. As Herb said" regeneration is the secret to smoking hot solos" . This is how it's done. The solos sound great and of course they are the hallmark of any Western Swing type song. Your standards are very high and this one stands right up there. A Super Listen ! Tom
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J&B, As usual this has a fantastic arrangement , mix and vocal. As Herb said" regeneration is the secret to smoking hot solos" . This is how it's done. The solos sound great and of course they are the hallmark of any Western Swing type song. Your standards are very high and this one stands right up there. A Super Listen ! Tom J&B - I'll echo the other third of I75 here. You chillun's be doin' it jes fine! Regards, Bob
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This is a cool cover! We also listened to the original version (which is also nice but sounds kind of crackling ;-)
Top-notch production as usual, well arranged and very well sung! Glad you liked it! We first heard it on an old compilation album of 78 transcripts...and, yep, it was crackling for sure. Thanks for the comments. J&B Very cool song. Loved it. Thanks Scott! J&B
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Good lively fun and very well done. Don't know the song but the melody certainly feels familiar. Cheers.
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As I was reading that I thought what a great testimonial for BIAB!
I'll steal RnAm's comment -
"Top-notch production as usual, well arranged and very well sung!"
Ditto. Thanks Josie! We appreciate you. J&B
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Thanks for the backstory. It prompted me to check my BiaB purchase date...two years ago this Dec...which is when I first heard your music after being steered this way by Herb H.
Bud, Janice,
Every song you sing/produce/write/co-write is just top notch, always. One can't help but hear that in this recording as well.
Your Friend would appreciate the tribute and the remembrance.
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Bud & Janice...
This is just flat out Gooooooooooooood.....
First time I heard y'all way back then, I was impressed. I am more impressed with each new post. I put Bud first in my salutation - the production is incredible - and Janice knows that she is one on my favorite singers - she should be a STAR. Period. The productions always sound like a group of musicians on a front porch - that have played together for 50 years. There ought to be a permanent link on the PG site that plays your songs one after another - 20 second snippets - the perfect testimonial to BIAB - what can be done in the hands of a pro...
As good as it gets.
Period.
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Great arrangement, really nice southern style, and the fiddle fits in perfectly. Absolutely sensational vocal. The mandolin certainly wasn't out of place either.
I like the way you comped the solos too, great outcome.
Overall top class delivery, thanks!
Thanks! Glad you liked those comped solos - they were fun and challenging. Thanks again for listening and commenting.
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J&B, I like simplicity as you can tell by my songs. KISS has always been my philosophy and what you guys do brings out the best in both of you. Good song, production, lyrics, vocals and BIAB choses. I enjoyed listening and thanks for sharing.
Sonny Thanks Sonny. The older I get the more KISS applies to many aspect of life! Bud
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Superb! You make it hard to comment I'd rather just listen. Thanks Peter! J&B cool jukin song.
Nice quality fiddle, mando and piano sounds in the solos
regeneration is the secret to smoking hot solos
ever read the book... Children of the corn? Talk about evil chillin.... Thank you Herb. Glad you liked the solos. Nope never read it but saw the promos and that was enough! J&B Hi Janice & Bud,
I remember this was your first song posted. But I can't remember what it really sounded like. Your new version blooms with Janice's vocals and Bud's arrangement, mixing and mastering. I'm especially impressed by the great solos of the different instruments.
Very enjoyable listen.
Guenter
Thank you for mentioning the solos, Guenter. They took a lot of regens but also a lot of comping -- particularly to get the last bar to work with the upcoming vocal. Glad you liked it! J&B
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Nice western song.
Great voice as usual.
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Nice Jammin' tune!! Really well arranged (and of course sung-we would not expect any less). Solos worked perfectly. Another excellent contribution from the dynamic duo!! Take care. Greg Thank you Greg and we appreciate you mentioning the arrangement and solos! J&B
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J+B At last soundcloud let me play some songs today. Everything about that song was what I expected ie absolutely excellent, A good clear mix and wonderful vocals, that lady should go far sounding like that   thanks for the listen Alyn
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Hi Janice & Bud,
Is this a cool song ... or what? I've always loved western Swing. Asleep At The Wheel is one of my favorite listens. Everything about this is superb. And Janice's voice sets perfectly in this great mix. What a treat ... thanks guys!
Alan Thanks y'all! We've listened to Asleep for many years. Great stuff. J&B J&B, As usual this has a fantastic arrangement , mix and vocal. As Herb said" regeneration is the secret to smoking hot solos" . This is how it's done. The solos sound great and of course they are the hallmark of any Western Swing type song. Your standards are very high and this one stands right up there. A Super Listen ! Tom Thanks Tom. We appreciate your comments very much. Thanks for noting the comped solos! J&B
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Congratulations Janice & Bud !
An excellent demo of the power of BiaB. Listening to your tune, I realize that there is an other solution to finish a solo cleanly (that I didn't think about): asking more bars that necessary and fading them out (eg mandolin in your tune)
I have listened to your other songs on youtube : different ambiences but all really pleasant !
Pascal
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No hay banda! There is no band! Il n'est pas de orchestra!
No hay banda! And yet we hear a band !
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Man, this take me back to the day. I love this style! Great performance!!
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Top marks for this one.
Those great vocals takes this over the top surely-evil-not.
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Very, very good stuff! Excellent production. You just keep getting better and better! Vocal, as always, are spot on!
Steve
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As always, well sung by Janice.
And the arrangement - it doesn't just sound like there's a band there, but the best session players in the business.
Impressive in every regard.
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J&B, As usual this has a fantastic arrangement , mix and vocal. As Herb said" regeneration is the secret to smoking hot solos" . This is how it's done. The solos sound great and of course they are the hallmark of any Western Swing type song. Your standards are very high and this one stands right up there. A Super Listen ! Tom J&B - I'll echo the other third of I75 here. You chillun's be doin' it jes fine! Regards, Bob Thanks Bob. We do try! J&B Good lively fun and very well done. Don't know the song but the melody certainly feels familiar. Cheers. Thanks. It was an obscure 1930's recording. The melody may very have been used by others as is typical with PD tunes. Glad you liked it! J&B Thanks for the backstory. It prompted me to check my BiaB purchase date...two years ago this Dec...which is when I first heard your music after being steered this way by Herb H.
Bud, Janice,
Every song you sing/produce/write/co-write is just top notch, always. One can't help but hear that in this recording as well.
Your Friend would appreciate the tribute and the remembrance.
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment! J&B
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Bud & Janice...
This is just flat out Gooooooooooooood.....
First time I heard y'all way back then, I was impressed. I am more impressed with each new post. I put Bud first in my salutation - the production is incredible - and Janice knows that she is one on my favorite singers - she should be a STAR. Period. The productions always sound like a group of musicians on a front porch - that have played together for 50 years. There ought to be a permanent link on the PG site that plays your songs one after another - 20 second snippets - the perfect testimonial to BIAB - what can be done in the hands of a pro...
As good as it gets.
Period.
floyd Floyd, thanks so much for commenting on the production and for all your counsel on my production efforts. I do try to make the production sound as much as possible like a tight band and one that is playing live. Comments like yours keep me on that journey! Bud
Nice western song.
Great voice as usual.
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Thank you Sergio! Janice
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J+B At last soundcloud let me play some songs today. Everything about that song was what I expected ie absolutely excellent, A good clear mix and wonderful vocals, that lady should go far sounding like that thanks for the listen Alyn Thanks Alyn. Glad you enjoyed the spin! J&B Congratulations Janice & Bud !
An excellent demo of the power of BiaB. Listening to your tune, I realize that there is an other solution to finish a solo cleanly (that I didn't think about): asking more bars that necessary and fading them out (eg mandolin in your tune)
I have listened to your other songs on youtube : different ambiences but all really pleasant !
Pascal Thanks Pascal and we appreciate you mentioning the solos. I suppose playing in a bluegrass band for years gave us the solo fade out perspective as BG pickers will sort of move slowing away from the mic at the end of the solo leaving a few riffs to bleed into the vocal. Appreciate it! J&B Man, this take me back to the day. I love this style! Great performance!! Thanks David. Yep, Western Swing is one fun genre! J&B
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Hi Janice and Bud, Magnificent music!!!! Just a moment ago, I wrote in a comment on one of Tom's songs that I couldn't believe I was hearing BIAB. That's exactly the same here. There's not a trace of automation in this backing at all. It was so easy to imagine musicians performing for the entire length of the track. If I heard this version on the radio, I'd be thinking that it was a world-class Americana group performing. Bud your audio-clip-grafting skills are as exceptional as Janice's outstanding vocals. I think I'd better wait a couple of hours before I head back to the song I'm presently mixing. I'm pretty sure that it's going to sound insipid after what I've just heard All the best to you both, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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Top marks for this one.
Those great vocals takes this over the top surely-evil-not.
Rob
Thanks Rob. Glad you like the vocal!! J&B Very, very good stuff! Excellent production. You just keep getting better and better! Vocal, as always, are spot on!
Steve
Thanks Steve. There seems no end of things to learn about production variables...but we keep trying! J&B As always, well sung by Janice.
And the arrangement - it doesn't just sound like there's a band there, but the best session players in the business.
Impressive in every regard. Thank you very much. That is exactly what we try to achieve! Let those RT artists shine. J&B Hi Janice and Bud, Magnificent music!!!! Just a moment ago, I wrote in a comment on one of Tom's songs that I couldn't believe I was hearing BIAB. That's exactly the same here. There's not a trace of automation in this backing at all. It was so easy to imagine musicians performing for the entire length of the track. If I heard this version on the radio, I'd be thinking that it was a world-class Americana group performing. Bud your audio-clip-grafting skills are as exceptional as Janice's outstanding vocals. I think I'd better wait a couple of hours before I head back to the song I'm presently mixing. I'm pretty sure that it's going to sound insipid after what I've just heard All the best to you both, Noel Noel, I highly suspect what you are working on will sound like all of your productions, i.e., GREAT! Thanks for mentioning the track comping and Janice's vocals. I wish my mixing came as easy to me as the vocals do to Janice! We appreciate your remarks very much. Bud
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Great tune. Very well sung and played.
Great work as usual.
Sergio
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