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I think my comment when you announced the coming of this project was.... this should be interesting.... and yeah... it is.
It's always good to get out of our self-imposed boxes and write stuff that we're not really 100% up to speed on or comfortable with. That's the kind of experience that helps us grow as writers and musicians. So.. kudo's on doing that with this song.
I really liked the musical bed. That is my favorite part of the song. Really rocking stuff going on musically. Guitars chugging away, off the wall picking, driving drums..... there's a lot to like and appreciate here.
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On this playback system the drums and bass were lacking a bit. So I fired up the lappy and used cans..... not much difference actually. Wondering about the compression levels on this since when the drums and bass does come in, you can hear it's there but it really doesn't make a big difference in the levels. It's kinda boxy and perhaps a bit subdued sounding rather than laying a solid foundation. You need to "open up the sound" a bit with respect to the low end. Put some dynamics back in the mix. Just because it's punk rock, don't kill it with compression and limiters. Let the mix breathe.
Singing is first class as always.... but it's easy to listen and say, yup.. that's a country singer right there.... That's not a crit.... just an observation. Our learned and practiced habits are hard to break. Like going to another part of the country and about 15 seconds into a sentence, the other party looks at you and says.... "You ain't from around here, are you?"
Good song....not my favorite genre but heck... keep writing these kinds of songs that are out of your normal style.... it certainly makes for interesting listening and will aid you on your songwriting journey.
It's all good....!!!
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Well. That really blew away some cobwebs. I listened on my studio computer through my Senn's and I think the low end holds up really well, as does the rest of the mix. Outside the box? There ain't no box on this one. "Punk Floyd" - love it. Regards, Bob
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HA! Thanks, Peter... A cool one Floyd! Nice to see that you're experimenting with new styles, so to speak ;-) Very nice lyrics on this one too!
Rob & Anne-Marie Thanks, y'all. Not sure I would call it "experimenting" - it will likely be a one-time deal. When I heard the Punk RTs I thought they worked well, so figured I'd try them out. I did little to them other than manipulate the solo track to provide that repetitive punk feel. The tracks are much as they come out of BIAB - nothing added... Actually spent more time listening to how punk is created and mixed than I did working up the song... Floyd I like your versatility and that you aren't afraid to step out of the box and use all the goodies that BIAbox has to offer. Great job! I can't wait to see what else you will come up with in the future. Enjoyed it! Sonny Thanks, Sonny. Ya gotta mix it up once in a while, eh... Appreciate your support... I always look forward to what you do next as well...
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Well that was different.... an experiment by a versatile explorer's expedition as you fell back to earth out of an old man's mind.....
Thanks for listening and commenting... You put sugar back into your diet didn't you? That sh*t will mess you up! True to punk form it clocks at 2:38 by my eye, that's good. Seriously it shows range, you can stretch and write something pretty credible outside yer comfort zone, and you have a big comfort zone, now it's just humongous! I've been entertained, thanks. Some very nice guitar playing going on here, managed to include just about every family member, extra points for that.
Kenny Thanks, Kenny. The Punk soloist RT is very cool - wild, almost - a lot going on... there might be a chance to use it for other styles if you grab small snippets... I use a single phrase several times in order to get the repetitive lick that I wanted... about the only "work" involved in putting this together...
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I think it's time to move to Florida, my son lives in Tampa, we could have a hell of band with that kind of tunes. We could call the band The Geezers. Great song, love it, I will have to check out the style and make one too. Another FJ winner!!!!! Critter - always nice of you to drop by...HA! Not sure that my voice could handle more than one of these every so often... I think "Zeegers" would be a better name - confuse people a little...
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Floyd !
Way out of left field, but you just managed to absolutely demonstrate the power of this system when placed in good, professional hands.
Your formidable vocal delivery took everything to a new level (again).
(Not sure about the abrupt ending, was that intentional?)
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(Not sure about the abrupt ending, was that intentional?) Trev
Me either... but, if it's there, Floyd meant it to be there.
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floyd,
never thought I'd hear you rawking punk style and then that ending haha
great stuff as usual
Alyn Thanks for giving it a go, Alyn... Hi Floyd,
I could listen to that only twice. And now I'm depressed! By the music and by the lyrics. In this song you totally changed your personality. Even the name: Punk Floyd. You are a master of disguise. I enjoyed the experience.
Guenter Sorry to depress you, Guenter... Just felt like stretching a bit... got to stay young at heart if nothing else... thanks for the listen and comments...
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LOL, OMG, WTF, Cra-Cra! It's like getting hit by Floyd Patterson and then continuing to take punches from Floyd Mayweather.Somehow I don't think this will play well at Floyd's Barbershop in Mayberry. Mucho kudos for digging deep into the box in order to get outside of the box. Some great lines and a fabulous listen. Tom HAHAHA! You don't know...those guys at Floyd's Barbershop are pretty hip... thanks for the fun review. Nice one Floyd.
your voice goes well with punk too. Great guitar solo
Great work.
Sergio
Thanks, Sergio... nice of you to say. I think the solo is certainly appropriate...
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"Punk Floyd" LOVED IT!!!
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Umm... we don't label it, man. We just throw it against the wall and see if it will stick, eh?... ( "Punk response") That took me completely by surprise, Floyd! I never knew you could sing like that.
I never have before. It will be some time before I do again... that hurts. What a fabulous piece of fun music. All credit to you to break away from from what we've come to expect and then make it sound like you'd been doing it forever.
What a nice thing to say! I thought that if anyone would "get this" it would be you... And what a mix. I turned it up on the old Tannoy Reds until I could see the cones moving and believe me that's LOUD. Thought I was going to cause structural damage at one point. Needless to say, it still hung together and sounded fantastic.
All Right!!! Just what I was hoping for... Likely something a bit "gentler". But, you never know. The boys in The Band will do whatever you ask of 'em... Thanks for the fun review.
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Okay FJ, I'm not going to lie and say this is my fav FJ genre - not by a country mile. But dang it, you sure went for it and I've got to give you some MAJOR kudos on the way you came busting out of the comfort zone. Especially those vocals. Total transformation and did it well. FJ Hyde. Salute!
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Someone contact PG Music! Floyd's account has been hacked!!!!!
Just let them know, that someone with A LOT of talent hacked his forum account is using PG products to put out some pretty awesome music!
Also, tell them that they somehow morphed Floyd's voice into a TOTALLY different style...AND...that is works surprisingly well!!! As in...perfect for the style.
Listen buddy, I don't know who you are, but rest assured when FJ gets ahold of you, there are going to be some great country songs to be written about the encounter. You've been warned!
Now, until that happens, I'm going to have another listen. Whoever you are, you did a great job! HAHHAHAHAHAHA! One of my favorite reviews. On a different note, the melody is VERY catchy. By brain has been trying to read all of the comments in that melody with your voice! I've never had THAT happen before. Nice! Are you hearing voices again, Caaron? ....It makes for refreshing comments!
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I woke early bent on catching up on posts in the showcase. Just sat down with my first cup of coffee & chicory, but I don't need it now 'cause after that song, I'm awake.
Very creative and courageous. A bold step into unfamiliar territory and one which really demonstrates the possibilities with PG Music's software.
I need to look at the lyrics again...they're as in-your-face as the music is.
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Wowser. What an awesome tune. Jumped right out the gate. Awesome vocal and guitar work. Hit me dead center. Thanks, Scott! Good to know this resonated with you in some way...
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Floyd !:))
Isn´t it just great, to step out of the box and find yourself in that uncharted territory where everything is allowed and anything can happen ?
I love it when you step out of that box to make these experiments and I´m waiting for your dip into the Bacharachian world !
I loved this because I also love to step out of the box every now and then and I know how invigorating that can be not only for you and me, bbut for everyone !
Cheers Norman What do you mean? This is the real me. I've been faking all that other stuff... Thanks, Norman!
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Floyd I have run out of verbs, nouns, adjectives and adverbs to express how good I think your music sounds. I wish that I had your talent because everything you touch, regardless of genre, turns to gold!
Super song as usual.
I want my last spoken words to be "I hid a million dollars under the........................"
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Man I played this really loud and I loved it, but can you buy me a new set of speakers??? I will send you my address.
Just kidding.
Old school head banging man. Loved it. Makes me want to put a ring in my tongue.
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Very nice! I enjoyed it. Hiroshi
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I think my comment when you announced the coming of this project was.... this should be interesting.... and yeah... it is.
It's always good to get out of our self-imposed boxes and write stuff that we're not really 100% up to speed on or comfortable with. That's the kind of experience that helps us grow as writers and musicians. So.. kudo's on doing that with this song.
I really liked the musical bed. That is my favorite part of the song. Really rocking stuff going on musically. Guitars chugging away, off the wall picking, driving drums..... there's a lot to like and appreciate here.
Nits and crits:
On this playback system the drums and bass were lacking a bit. So I fired up the lappy and used cans..... not much difference actually. Wondering about the compression levels on this since when the drums and bass does come in, you can hear it's there but it really doesn't make a big difference in the levels. It's kinda boxy and perhaps a bit subdued sounding rather than laying a solid foundation. You need to "open up the sound" a bit with respect to the low end. Put some dynamics back in the mix. Just because it's punk rock, don't kill it with compression and limiters. Let the mix breathe.
Singing is first class as always.... but it's easy to listen and say, yup.. that's a country singer right there.... That's not a crit.... just an observation. Our learned and practiced habits are hard to break. Like going to another part of the country and about 15 seconds into a sentence, the other party looks at you and says.... "You ain't from around here, are you?"
Good song....not my favorite genre but heck... keep writing these kinds of songs that are out of your normal style.... it certainly makes for interesting listening and will aid you on your songwriting journey.
It's all good....!!! Thanks for the time that you spent with this and the thought that you put into it. Since I have posted Country, Pop Country, Country Rock, Hard-Core Country, Lite Rock, Rock, Latin Rock, Singer-songwriter waltzes, story songs, a John Prine "tribute" (or ripoff if you choose), Pop, Pop Ballads, Pop Rock, Americana, Alternative Rock, Folk, Reggae-influenced rock, Waits-style "jazz", Piano Ballads, Blues, Ensemble Rock with horns, and now Punk, I don't think you can really lump me in your "self-imposed boxes". Regarding your nits and crits...Since there is no compression on the bass it's interesting that you "hear it". There are no limiters on anything. There is a multiband compressor on the drums with a standard configuration for stereo drum tracks. It is a preset in Studio One that is very well done. I do not modify that at all. There are no compressors or limiters on any of the other tracks. Or eq, for that matter. They are all exactly as they come out of BIAB. That was intentional. I wanted this to be a demonstration of the BIAB Punk tracks because I thought they did a good job of giving us that option/style/choice.... If you take the time to listen to some punk songs, you will find that the bass guitar is (generally) used differently than in the type music you are accustom to. It is not a booming, bottom heavy root-5 bass. It is generally used like an additional rhythm guitar. Listen to the 2588:Bass, Electric, PunkFuzzPicked8ths Ev 165 RT by itself. It is exactly what you will hear in many punk recording (not all - they vary widely). It is not a country bass. It is not a rock bass. You are likely missing it because your ears are not attuned to it. Punk song are generally "all about the guitars". The drums are generally mixed to blend into the guitar bed. Drums seldom "take center stage" as they do in Country Rock or Pop. Others - with good systems and good ears - have mentioned that the mix is good (even the bottom) and holds up well even when cranked to max levels (which a song like this is designed for). Some classic punk for your edification. Green Day - Basket Case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTGr5t3MoYThe Clash - Complete Control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TcKiC2yB0sSex Pistols - God Save the Queen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMxqcgBhWQAmerican Idiot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMISex Pistols - Anarchy in the U.K. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc89WTEh-jEThe Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPxsS_-LTe0Thanks for listening.
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