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I just knew it. Pretty much everybody had no problem with the upgrade but of course I do. There's another thread around talking about how long this takes but I couldn't find it. I remember reading that the system can appear to be frozen for hours and just let it do it's thing. The download and initial config went fine and now it's installing. Well, mine went from zero to 14% in about a half hour. That was 09:30AM yesterday.
It's still at 14% now 24 hours later. That seems a little extreme, no?
Luckily I already picked up my new PC several weeks ago with Win 7 on it so last night I set that one up (using it now) while I'm waiting for the other one to finish upgrading. My plan is (was?) to play with Win 10 on my original machine, make sure everything works and I like it before doing it to my new box. Everything is backed up ready to be transferred to this new box but I really wanted to play with Win 10 first on the old machine, then clone the basic OS on this new box, then do the upgrade, clone it again, then reinstall everything and clone it again.
But for now I'm stuck.
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Bob, that sounds extreme, yes! You sure are a patient fellow.
Key question: is the hard drive activity light on or blinking? I'm assuming no.
I've done five machine upgrades to Windows 10, and never hit a delay more than a few minutes. The 14% does ring a bell as the initial pause point. But if that were my machine, I would reboot.
I had a friend's older laptop that hung like yours overnight, and I rebooted. Windows recovered beautifully and proceeded. Now, my advice is worth what you are paying me if you brick your system, but I really doubt it will do harm.
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That's what I was thinking too, thanks Matt. I'm at the office now, I'll deal with this later. Not too concerned about that system because I'm either going to wind up sitting it in the closet as a spare or I'll give it to a friend. If I have to I'll buy the full Win 10 and create a new virgin machine.
I'm one who thinks that someway, somehow I'll figure it out with some help from you guys here of course.
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I had to reboot when I upgraded mine, and then it proceeded. Also, you might want to download and burn the ISO for Windows 10 and be able to run install directly from the DVD. It's also good to have the DVD if you ever need to run any of the recovery routines.
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It's still at 14% now 24 hours later. That seems a little extreme, no? Just a shot in the dark....did you by any chance leave your anti-virus program running in the background?....or any other program for that matter? If so, I'd disable it and try once again. (please don't shoot me for that suggestion):) Hope all works out....carry on.
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You need a wired internet connection - no wifi. At least that was my experience when my son stumbled into this situation.
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Dammit. I missed that. I pulled everything off and have it on an external drive and was so focused on that I forgot about AVG. That could be it.
So much stuff to do, so little time...I'll do that as soon as I get home. Thanks man.
John, tell me again how to burn the ISO? I've already done the download.
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Most CD-burner software programs can do this. You could also try this (from Microsoft support), or you could try one of these methods as well. I generally either use Nero or ImgBurn to do it.
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Check the other thread on this forum with a link to a page for tips when this happens. It is a frequent occurrence. Lots of time just disconnecting from internet makes it speed along. Link in Notes post here http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=353079&page=5
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So much fun and games I just can't stand it.
I got home and it was still at 14%. Shut it down, let it set for a few minutes and turned it back on. Nada. After 10 minutes or so, no activity on the monitor just black. Shut it off again and noticed the case was quite warm so I let it sit for about an hour. Rebooted again and voila, it's back! But, I have a box saying there was an error with the update. No **** Sherlock. Microsoft couldn't pop that up when I was sitting at 14% for hours on end? Whatever.
I tried to disable AVG. The options were a max of 15 minutes or until the next computer restart. Oh, that's helpful. Windows needs to restart the system how many times again? I uninstalled it and did the update again. Seemed to go ok until I got to the actual install part. I get a message saying I do not have an authorized version of Windows. I didn't get that on the first attempt. I have an OEM system and the first thing I did 5 years ago was to check on that and I'm good. Or was. So after all of this I'm now running an illegal OS. I read a few posts about this on various tech sites and I'm sure that somehow that can be corrected but you know what? I installed Avast on it and it appears to be running like it was before yesterday.
I don't give a crap anymore. At least I have my original system back and I'm working with my new box now and if there ever was an example of "If it ain't broke..." this is it. As I'm reinstalling stuff on the new system I have the old system running in case I forgot to backup something.
To hell with Win 10 right now. If I want it I'll just buy it and do a fresh install and that includes the new system too. I'm not touching this so called free update again.
And I'm the guy who says have patience, things will work out.
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Update. It's been a week and I did some research about the not having a valid install of Win 7 thing. I bought that box from a private guy in LA who preinstalled the OS and a few other things including AVG. That was about 5 years ago. First thing I did was go to MS and set up updates and verify it's a legal install. But, I just read that what used to happen a lot is it's still a pirated copy of the OS linked to an illegal server. That server is what verifies it's legal when MS goes through the verification routine. After that it's never verified again UNTIL something changes like a new mobo or updating to Win 10. Then it verifies again, that illegal server is now offline and you get that message. SURPRISE! Thanks and have a nice day...
I have no idea at this point but from what I read, that notice from MS is absolute. Nothing to do but either properly authorize Win 7 then do the Win 10 update or just buy Win 10. Not that big of a deal, I used that box for years anyway and right now it works fine. So far. I'm almost done with setting up my new system and under Computer/Properties it says it's activated with a product key and I'm getting automatic updates. So, now I have a choice. Do I want to try this again on my new system that I bought used off Ebay? My old system did finally come back after some grief.
Hmmmmmm...
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Update. Nothing to do but either properly authorize Win 7 then do the Win 10 update or just buy Win 10. Not that big of a deal, I used that box for years anyway and right now it works fine. So far. I'm almost done with setting up my new system and under Computer/Properties it says it's activated with a product key and I'm getting automatic updates. So, now I have a choice. Do I want to try this again on my new system that I bought used off Ebay? My old system did finally come back after some grief. Hmmmmmm...Bob Personally.... BOLD 1: I'm still on WIn7 so I'll just buy Win10 when absolutely necessary. I've no problem with that option either. BOLD 2: If I'm understanding you correctly, is it prudent to try and fix a working toaster.  Hmmmmmm......have a good weekend. Carry on....
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Update. It's been a week and I did some research about the not having a valid install of Win 7 thing. I bought that box from a private guy in LA who preinstalled the OS and a few other things including AVG. That was about 5 years ago. First thing I did was go to MS and set up updates and verify it's a legal install. But, I just read that what used to happen a lot is it's still a pirated copy of the OS linked to an illegal server. That server is what verifies it's legal when MS goes through the verification routine. After that it's never verified again UNTIL something changes like a new mobo or updating to Win 10. Then it verifies again, that illegal server is now offline and you get that message. SURPRISE! Thanks and have a nice day...
I have no idea at this point but from what I read, that notice from MS is absolute. Nothing to do but either properly authorize Win 7 then do the Win 10 update or just buy Win 10. Not that big of a deal, I used that box for years anyway and right now it works fine. So far. I'm almost done with setting up my new system and under Computer/Properties it says it's activated with a product key and I'm getting automatic updates. So, now I have a choice. Do I want to try this again on my new system that I bought used off Ebay? My old system did finally come back after some grief.
Hmmmmmm...
Bob A shame Bob you didn't have an image of windows 7 before you embarked on the upgrade, then it would have been simple to mirror your drive backup again. Don't really understand about the illegal server to verify windows 7 that you had, if it is true then I guess someone else was in control of your windows 7 this past 5 years, probably more like a crack that the guy used to verify it. maybe you can get an OEM key off ebay cheaply enough. Musiclover
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Windows users truly have the patience of Job. Hope it works out for you.
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I'm back on my old machine right now to check some stuff. My Computer/Properties now says 26 days to activate with a link to search for an activation key which of course no longer exists anywhere. I'm not going to mess around with trying to find a used OEM key or something. All I was going to use this old box for was as a test bed for Win 10 before I upgrade the new box. It appears all that happens after the activation period expires is I can no longer get updates. Big whoop, it's about to be retired anyway.
I'm really not interested in cloning a Win 7 install. My whole plan was to jump up to 10.
Since I got my new system used I may wind up with the same problem but that's ok, I just backed up everything to a new external 4 tb drive plus I have almost the same backups on my older 2tb drive so I'm covered. If I have to buy Win 10 and wipe the new SSD I will. Btw, am I loving a fast SSD machine or what? All I can say is wow is that thing fast. It boots in 30-40 seconds.
This old machine is fading away and it's on to the newer, better and faster one.
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I'm back on my old machine right now to check some stuff. My Computer/Properties now says 26 days to activate with a link to search for an activation key which of course no longer exists anywhere. I'm not going to mess around with trying to find a used OEM key or something. All I was going to use this old box for was as a test bed for Win 10 before I upgrade the new box. It appears all that happens after the activation period expires is I can no longer get updates. Big whoop, it's about to be retired anyway.
I'm really not interested in cloning a Win 7 install. My whole plan was to jump up to 10.
Since I got my new system used I may wind up with the same problem but that's ok, I just backed up everything to a new external 4 tb drive plus I have almost the same backups on my older 2tb drive so I'm covered. If I have to buy Win 10 and wipe the new SSD I will. Btw, am I loving a fast SSD machine or what? All I can say is wow is that thing fast. It boots in 30-40 seconds.
This old machine is fading away and it's on to the newer, better and faster one.
Bob Everybody has a different view on this, but to attempt to upgrade 7 to 10 without first having an image of 7 is surely asking for trouble. This particular install of 7 that I am using can't be upgraded to 10 either usually fails around 30% or so, but easy enough to get 7 back again as I had an acronis backup of it. I do have 10 on a different partition. That's not to say I don't experience computer problems like everyone else, of course I do from time to time. I wouldn't write off your old computer, this one is six years and four months old and still going strong. Putting in an SSD give it a new lease of life, as you have found out too. Musiclover
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ebay Might be worth a go.
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Worked for me on the one computer that got stuck.
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Only problem is that if you have windows 7 that is not fully activated, will Microsoft allow you to upgrade to 10? Hence the reason to activate with a workable key. BTW Notes, some great deals on the Norton Music Everything Pack that you offer, http://www.nortonmusic.com/mega.htmlIf I win the UK or Irish Lottery will definitely order. Musiclover
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