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Also, have a look at Cakewalk's Music Creator 7 Another advantage to getting MC7 (whether you use MC7 or RealBand) is that you also get the TTS-1 Softsynth, which is much better than the Coyote WT (which is just a DXi wrapper for the basic General MIDI sounds that come with Windows).
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Also, have a look at Cakewalk's Music Creator 7 Another advantage to getting MC7 (whether you use MC7 or RealBand) is that you also get the TTS-1 Softsynth, which is much better than the Coyote WT (which is just a DXi wrapper for the basic General MIDI sounds that come with Windows). Yes... I use the TTS synth as my default synth for BB/RB..... but even better than the TTS.... MC7 also comes with the Cakewalk Sound Center synth which is a sampled synth..... talk about some really nice sounds. The $50 retail price is worth it because CSC is worth that by itself. And it's a freaking NO BRAINER when you can find it on sale for $20 on the Cakewalk store site.
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A good interface that uses ASIO
I assume you mean an AI.....and don't they pretty much all use ASIO? Some DAW's are better suited to certain types of music due to their included features and functions. Really? Interesting..... Anyway, thx again all for the info. I still have lots of research to do on DAWs.....hopefully most of these have some kind of trial version I can try  It's nice that many AIs come with DAWs too, and frankly I'm not suspecting much diff in AIs' quality generally, so if I favor a given DAW, that could definitely influence my decision, assuming of course the AI meets my (pretty basic) needs.
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A good interface that uses ASIO
I assume you mean an AI.....and don't they pretty much all use ASIO? Most all new ones do. If you purchase an older interface it may not handle ASIO and only use MME for example. Bottom line is that ASIO is a better/faster protocol than the MME that older interfaces use.
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I assume you mean an AI.....and don't they pretty much all use ASIO?
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It's nice that many AIs come with DAWs too, and frankly I'm not suspecting much diff in AIs' quality generally, so if I favor a given DAW, that could definitely influence my decision, assuming of course the AI meets my (pretty basic) needs. For the benefit of others, what do you refer to by the repeated use of AI ? (Every time I see AI I automatically think of Artificial Intelligence)
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I think he means Audio Interface.
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This stopped me for a second. I still call it a sound card.
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I think he means Audio Interface. Pardon...yes, Audio Interface. Which is not really interchangeable with the term sound card....a computer has a sound card, but the sound card is not an "Audio Interface" (except maybe in a very broad, general sense), ie as the term is understood in the recording world. It's basically a stripped down mixer, ie doesn't have all the controls/etc a mixer does, but has the same basic functionality of being able to connect the computer (presumably to use a DAW) and one's gear, like mics, keyboard etc. For example: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Scarlet2i2G2?adpos=1t1&creative=105744828601&device=c&matchtype=b&network=g&gclid=CLDg7srgw84CFVFahgodK-MP2Q
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Thanks. I've had more sound cards and audio interfaces than I can count, dating back to a SoundBlaster added in 1989 to a PC I built in the early 1980s. Some years later, getting all that radio frequency interference 'out of the box' was a major step forward. Check my hardware and software specs below and you'll see I do like the Focusrite Scarlett line.
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Check my hardware and software specs below and you'll see I do like the Focusrite Scarlett line. Matt what are we going to do with our 18i20's? Focusrite just came out with a second generation line of them. They have prettier lights and can record at even higher resolution.
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Audio interface...or interface for short is a sound card that's designed to do multiplex audio work in real time. A quality interface running ASIO lets you monitor the tracks and record at the same time as well as process the synths in real time with very little induced latency. Audio going in both directions, and synths going both ways all in real time.
ASIO is the preferred driver for a modern interface. It is totally possible to run an interface on MME or some other driver. However, to get the maximum performance capability from the card as it was designed to do, ASIO is the driver that will get you there.
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You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Steve, I looked at one last night at Guitar Center. The sample rate is great but what I especially like is the new MixControl software. Sadly, that won't work on our older model (I wrote to ask them).
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Sadly, that won't work on our older model (I wrote to ask them). Yeah, I noticed it in the downloads section of the site when I wanted to download it. The documentation seemed to lean that way too. Looks like the new software is much more user-friendly for customizing your own routes.
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Exactly. That's why I even gave a thought to upgrading for $400+ I didn't, though.
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Unfamiliar w/this, trying to get there.....my interest is in recording only. A few questions:
- Are "sets" comparable to "stems?"
- What is/isn't edit-able in "sets?" For ex. can I replace a piano solo with another instrument, and/or delete it altogether?
- How easy/hard is it to use or integrate with a DAW?
Appreciate any info Sets are not the same thing as stems. The term stem refers to a group of tracks combined during the mixing process, either to a sub group, or even render to as an audio file, intended for easy mixing. For example, you might have a stereo audio file of percussion parts that you want to use live if you don't have a precision player. In BIAB, if you set a part to play a piano solo, you can undo it or replace that with a different instrument. How easy is it to integrate with a DAW? It depends on how deep you want to get into a DAW.
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Soundblaster? I wish I wasn't old enough to remember that in a nostalgic way. And when those blazing 14.4 modems came out, whooo-eee, CompuServe just flew by
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Matt what are we going to do with our 18i20's? Focusrite just came out with a second generation line of them. They have prettier lights and can record at even higher resolution.
I have an idea, but its only for my on benefit ..
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Exactly. That's why I even gave a thought to upgrading for $400+ I didn't, though.
I did upgrade to the Audiophile edition for both 2015 and 2016for Mac and it's worth every penny. I love the quality of the RTs, because I wanted all the RTs in .WAV to insure that had the highest quality RTs as possible. So far, I haven't been disappointed at all.
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Soundblaster? I wish I wasn't old enough to remember that in a nostalgic way. And when those blazing 14.4 modems came out, whooo-eee, CompuServe just flew by Ahhh the good old days.... sadly, the business I'm in... electronic security, while parts of it are on the cutting edge, the burg panels we have to use for residential and commercial systems, still use dial up and old fashioned modems from a serial port. Have you seen a serial port on any new laptop in the last 4 to 5 years.... yeah, me neither. I have to use a USB to serial adapter... and only one specific brand model will work. The comm connection is a blazing 1200baud on some of the panels and 300baud on many of the older panels. Fortunately, fire panels are using USB connections in a plug and play manner with the software and it's possible to download an entire system in a few seconds. Even when I have my modem at the panel....as opposed to over the phone lines, it takes 5 minutes for some of the bigger panels to finish their upload.... then you edit.... then you download for the same amount of time. I think some of the newer IP panels are able to DL over the Ethernet but I have yet to use that since the number of those panels I have operating on the IP protocol is small compared to the old school dial-up stuff. Anyway...
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Holy #### that's ancient stuff lol
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