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I assume you found that the TC Helicon harmonizer in RealBand will easily allow you to create 4 part harmonies (up or down) on separate tracks? I have written this (process) up in the Tips forum in the past. (I can try to find it if needed...I believe it was in a thread create by Josie (Sundance) - about creating harmonies...)
(apologies to Joanne for sidetracking your post...)
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I assume you found that the TC Helicon harmonizer in RealBand will easily allow you to create 4 part harmonies (up or down) on separate tracks? I have written this (process) up in the Tips forum in the past. (I can try to find it if needed...I believe it was in a thread create by Josie (Sundance) - about creating harmonies...)
(apologies to Joanne for sidetracking your post...) Hi Floyd, I assume THIS POST is the one you mean? The Melodyne part is more or less what I used to do before it became unstable. I have been playing around with all the different options in the BIAB/RB TCH harmonizer over the past couple of days and I find it very easy to use and with good results. Your "choir effect" looks interesting - will definitely have to try this Thanks for the info. Rec (Apologies from me too Joanne)
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Hi Guys. Am just finding the time to catch up on this post. Thanks so much for all the contributions and no problem AT ALL taking over the post. It is great to promote discussion. There are so many different ways of doing things it is interesting to hear everyone else's. Hi Receder. Just a quick comment about harmonies. They are also available in BIAB. I've found it useful to use them in BIAB early in my workflow process to audition when and where to place harmonies without losing time going back and forth between BIAB and RB. I use it a lot when I'm just playing with BIAB and not working on an actual project. It's great for testing out ideas on the fly.
I use the TC Helicon harmonizer a little later in my work flow. I generally get my lead vocal down. (I sing a few takes and then do a composite). I also correct any pitching and timing problems in Melodyne. Only then do I generate the harmonies using TC Helicon. The reason for this is quite simply that I want to generate harmonies from my final lead vocal rather than any out of tune or out of time vocals. I then "learn" to sing the harmonies, the whole way through and record these in RealBand, tune them and line them up in Melodyne multitrack. I then slice and dice the harmonies according to taste. Sometimes I use the generated ones and sometimes I dont. Also I will have to investigate the Dueling Mixes website. Hey Receder, that's a subscription service set up by none other than Graham at therecordingrevolution.com. I just joined a few weeks ago and it seems like a fun way to get mixing experience in. The URL is actually http://duelingmixes.mykajabi.com/ but there's nothing to see unless you're already a member. Dueling Mixes is fantastic but in my opinion you gotta have the time to do the monthly mixes and fully participate to make it worth the expense. Also, Joanne, it'd be great to hear about your experience with and opinion of LANDR.I've heard mixed reports from other people, but it's probably a great idea to do what you do with it, which is to establish reference tracks to work against. Thoughts? That is a great idea for a future blog post. Will definitely do that.
I am a long time user of Melodyne but when they updated it to v4 earlier in the year it became very unstable for me and many other Sonar users (actually it's unstable standalone too). Rec
Personally I find Melodyne unusable as a pluggin. I only use it standalone but have found no problems in that regard. Rec,
I assume you found that the TC Helicon harmonizer in RealBand will easily allow you to create 4 part harmonies (up or down) on separate tracks? I have written this (process) up in the Tips forum in the past. (I can try to find it if needed...I believe it was in a thread create by Josie (Sundance) - about creating harmonies...)
(apologies to Joanne for sidetracking your post...) Hi Floyd. My version of RealBand has a very irritating bug since about 2014. It does not generate the harmonies on their own separate tracks. I can only generate "one up" and then separately "one down". If I want to generate 4 parts each in their own tracks I have to go to BIAB or an earlier version of RealBand. If someone has found a solution to this I would love to know!! For those who use Melodyne multitrack a very interesting exercise is to pull all the generated harmonies in and compare how they look. Say you have 4 part harmony generated, pull them all into Melodyne Multitrack. The result is VERY interesting to study....
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I assume you found that the TC Helicon harmonizer in RealBand will easily allow you to create 4 part harmonies (up or down) on separate tracks? I have written this (process) up in the Tips forum in the past. (I can try to find it if needed...I believe it was in a thread create by Josie (Sundance) - about creating harmonies...)
(apologies to Joanne for sidetracking your post...) Hi Floyd. My version of RealBand has a very irritating bug since about 2014. It does not generate the harmonies on their own separate tracks. I can only generate "one up" and then separately "one down". If I want to generate 4 parts each in their own tracks I have to go to BIAB or an earlier version of RealBand. If someone has found a solution to this I would love to know!! For those who use Melodyne multitrack a very interesting exercise is to pull all the generated harmonies in and compare how they look. Say you have 4 part harmony generated, pull them all into Melodyne Multitrack. The result is VERY interesting to study.... Hi, Joanne! - That certainly should not be the case. It is the one function that I depend on RB for - and have used it through most of the revisions (of RB) - though less the last couple of years... Perhaps you are selecting an option that tells it to just generate one track? OR perhaps your RB install has gotten corrupted and needs to be re-installed? (But, I would assume you have the latest updates...) You should start a thread in the RealBand forum about this... and get it resolved....
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Hi Floyd. It only generates the one. Will start a thread in the RealBand thread.
Edited to add: marvelous company PG Music! Sorted it out with updating to Build 10 of RealBand.
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