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#176655 - 10/18/12 10:24 AM [User Showcase] Sonatina
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An adaption of Clementi's Sonatina in D maj opus 36 no 6.

RealDrums-FusionFunkTerryClarke^1-Sticks
RT515_Bass,El,Funk Flüssig Ev100
RT1637_Gitarre,El,JzFunkBreezy1Ev75
RT1437_Piano,El,JazzFunkGroovin 110
RT1442_Sax,Alto,Sol,JzFnkGrv 110Blz

http://soundcloud.com/boehmusic/sonatina

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#176656 - 10/18/12 11:15 AM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: boehm]
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Bravo! what a great groove. Clementi would be molto orgoglioso with your treatment. I like how you artfully snuck into your arrangement, starting at around :30, then really launched it around 1:00 with your synth. Sax solo was real nice also.

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#176657 - 10/18/12 06:11 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: Tano Music]
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WOW! - that is all that needs to be said. You take BIAB to places that I could never begin to imagine...

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#176658 - 10/18/12 07:58 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: floyd jane]
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Hallo Guenter,
That sounds great! Thanks for uploading it.

Perhaps you could describe how you did that... which parts did you play/edit yourself and what parts came from Band-in-a-Box.
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#176659 - 10/18/12 08:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: PeterGannon]
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very creative, I enjoyed that.
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#176660 - 10/18/12 09:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: PeterGannon]
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Quote:

Hallo Guenter,
That sounds great! Thanks for uploading it.

Perhaps you could describe how you did that... which parts did you play/edit yourself and what parts came from Band-in-a-Box.




Ditto That!
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#176661 - 10/18/12 09:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: Danny C.]
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Thanks for listening and your comments.

@PeterGannon and Danny C.:

I took the piano parts from BIAB Classical MIDI-FakeBook3 and transported them into Reaper with 132 bpm double speed.
Then I changed the tempo from 264 to 132 bpm and typed in the chords in RealBand manually, because no RealTrack can be played at such high measure. In the second verse I used my own chords.
The RealTracks are mentioned above. I used two versions: one with and the other without shots.
I played the synth and some strings.
Most work was editing and mixing.
I would have liked to play the bass. But BIAB makes you lazy. I couldn't have done it better.

Guenter

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#176662 - 10/18/12 09:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: boehm]
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Thanks Guenter,

>>> Then I changed the tempo from 264 to 132 bpm and typed in the chords in RealBand manually, because no RealTrack can be played at such high measure.

By the way, if you designate a RealTracks as "half-time" (in the RealTracks Picker) then you could get a 132 tempo RealTracks playing over a tempo of 264.
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#176663 - 10/18/12 09:43 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: boehm]
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Guenter,

Every now and then a piece of work like this comes out and is a stark reminder, and I might add a reality check for guys like me who use the program for a one dimensional purpose. Again this is another great example of what can be done with this software.

Thanks for the details, again you did a great job with this production, arrangement and performance.

Later,


Edited by Danny C. (10/18/12 09:43 PM)
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#176664 - 10/20/12 02:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: Danny C.]
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Hi Guenter,

This is one of my favorite piano sonatinas and I love what you've done with it. I take my hat off to you. You take BIAB into territory I've never thought about and what you accomplish is exceptionally good.

All the best,
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#176665 - 10/20/12 10:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: PeterGannon]
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Thank you for your comments. Very encouraging.

Antwort auf:


By the way, if you designate a RealTracks as "half-time" (in the RealTracks Picker) then you could get a 132 tempo




I didn't know that, but I've tried now. It doesn't work in Realband and for RealDrums it doesn't work in BIAB either. Or have I overlooked anything?

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RealTracks playing over a tempo of 264.




Yes, but an instrument of tempo 150 sounds horrible at 264.

Guenter

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#176666 - 10/20/12 10:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: boehm]
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Guenter,

After you assign the track as "half-time", it's necessary to regenerate that track. Maybe that's the step that's missing. Half- and double-time work for me ok and they sound fine with tempos that are around twice as fast or half as fast as the recommended RT speed.

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#176667 - 10/20/12 11:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks Noel.
It's ok with RealTracks. But in RealDrums I can't choose halftime.
Guenter

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#176668 - 10/20/12 02:49 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: boehm]
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Wow. Amazing and clever and many other things as discussed above. Really fresh. Maybe your best yet.

Thanks for sharing,
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#176669 - 10/20/12 04:07 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: BruceI]
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>>> It's ok with RealTracks. But in RealDrums I can't choose halftime.

Correct. With RealTracks, you can use a RealTracks of 150 at a atempo of 300, and if it is designated as "half-time", then it doesn't get stretched, it plays at its tempo of 150, so that it sounds good (unstretched), and a 1 bar phrase (at 150) plays over 2 bars at 300.

But we don't have that feature available for RealDrums. We do have RealDrums that work at fast tempos though.
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#176670 - 10/20/12 06:14 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: PeterGannon]
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FANTASTIC!

I love it when people take BiaB in a completely different direction. You did an outstanding job on this.
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#176671 - 10/21/12 01:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: MarioD]
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Fantastic! What an outstanding production. I doubt many would know this was all done in BIAB. Those pianos are wonderful Great!

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#176672 - 10/22/12 12:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: jptjptjpt]
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Thank you all.

Guenter

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#176673 - 10/22/12 01:48 PM [User Showcase] Re: Sonatina [Re: boehm]
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That was excellent. Well done

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