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#396051 - 02/14/17 11:12 AM
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Excellent tune. Very powerful lyrics and vocal. African wildlife has surely been exploited. Super way to delivery the message.. Thanks for the nice words, Scott... gi Floyd excellent work love it Thanks for listening, Eric....
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#396147 - 02/15/17 06:21 AM
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Floyd,
Hard hitting lyrics delivered with powerful vocals and a great band.
Thanks for digging this up - I`m going to look back in the forum for the other songs on this theme.
Robert Thanks, Robert. I looked back and found many of them around page 87 (July 2015)... there were a bunch of them - most you can recognize by the title... Movinng, powerful singing. Thanks, Marty. Floyd/Joanne,
Why wasn't this posted before ;-)
a very melodic and poppy verse with a good powered up chorus.
A very complete package!
Good work as always.
Rob & Anne-Marie Appreciate that, y'all...
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#396280 - 02/16/17 07:42 AM
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Floyd and Joanne
A powerful, powerful write, and delivery.
More musical class from you guys.
This is masterfully delivered, and sends out a powerful and vastly important message at the same time.
Just so well done.
Appreciate you dropping in, Trev... thanks! Excellent! Powerful message delivered in a powerful way. Love the drums in this, did you add processing after the fact to get them to sound so good?
Anyway, an excellent write, performance, and mix, on my third listen. Thanks, Dave. The drums - part of it is the track itself - sometimes you find RDs that have a slightly different recorded sound/quality - the rest is the effects that I apply in Studio One - it is a preset call "S1 Drumgroup" - meant for a stereo drum track like this (as all RDs are) - I use it on almost every BIAB drum track - and seldom do anything else - just drop that preset on the track and let it be. The preset includes an EQ (fairly standard drum settings) and a Multiband Dynamics (compressor). It always help bring out the kick and snare. And, of course, I always mix the drums to be "noticeable" in a big way....
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#396308 - 02/16/17 01:25 PM
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That is one punchy production -- vocally and instrumentally. One could not know what a rhino is and enjoy it!
We're always impressed with the number of guitar tracks that you work in so
seamlessly...yeah, they aren't all there at the same time but still...
This one is stamped with all the fj hallmarks -- great vocal, RT choice, arrangement and production.
Thanks for the reminder of this senseless slaughter. It's overwhelming to realize that such a magnificent animal could be sacrificed for a $#%^&$ horn.
In the perfect world efforts like Joanne's project would go viral. Sigh.
J&B
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#396368 - 02/16/17 10:27 PM
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Hello, floyd and Joanne
Very powerful sung and well written.
As Rob & Anne-Marie said,
A very melodic and poppy verse with a good powered up chorus.
A very complete package!
Good work as always.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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#396456 - 02/17/17 12:08 PM
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I really like the arrangement and mix
well written and strong message
nice performance, nice drive
enjoyed it
Kenny Thanks, Kenny... floyd and Joanne,
This is excellent, really excellent: great lyrics, great melody, great singing, superb arrangement and a real power-house of a mix. I can't believe that this has been sitting on some proverbial shelf somewhere! From every angle, this is 'quality'.
All the best to you both,
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#396666 - 02/18/17 03:13 PM
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Good song, alas the Black Rhino seems also to be extinct in the wild now too, so too late mate.
A re-write of it? Along the lines of I Shot the Sheriff, but ... ? As us humans are all guilty. F Thanks for having a listen. Floyd
Excellent production -a really strong lyric and a good tune and sung with conviction.
Peter Thanks, Peter.
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#396825 - 02/19/17 01:18 PM
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What can I say that hasn't been said? Nothing!
This is another fantastic winner from Floyd. Thanks, Mario....
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#396930 - 02/20/17 08:57 AM
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This sounds really good y'all! I love the use of real tracks. Great singing, too.
A really good collaboration. I enjoyed it! Excellent lyrics, as everyone has pointed out. Thanks, David.... It's all been said... so I'll just say... ditto. Thanks, Herb...
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#396945 - 02/20/17 09:44 AM
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There are OBVIOUSLY many great things that can be said for this song. Many have already been said. Many have also said that many have already been said. So I'm going to focus on just a few. every year the number gets a little smaller
every year bone pile a little taller I love the contrast in this! It makes it SO powerful and grabs attention right away...of course strengthened by rhyme. Nice! poachers grow like a cancer What an amazing line! Associating two horrible in such a powerful way. Wow...just..wow! if not you and me, who will have the answer? will you turn away when you hear their cries? what we gonna tell our children
what we gonna say we did
that we let the rhino end
or that we saved them for our kids
stand up for the sake of your sons
raise your voice for your daughters
give them a future
together we can stop the slaughter
so tell me...
what we gonna tell our children You know how to tug heart strings my friend! The way you go about it is brilliant! Children/End Bringing kids/children into it THEN stating sons and daughters...with the rhyme of slaughter..just CRAZY great writing! raise your voice for your daughters Literally raising your voice, a high point in the song with the lyric. Emotional man! All delivered with a bold, strong feel to the chorus. To me this is a "call to action!" a bit of a "wake up call" without being offensive. It. Just. Makes. You. Think. The best way to change a person's thinking, is getting them to think! educate the world
it's just a fairy tale
no magic in the horn
just a con man sale
wasting your money
won't cure a thing
death of the beast
is all it can bring Perfectly said. Is this not the solution? Kill the market save the animal! Again, change the thinking. FJ, I haven't been commenting on your songs, because it could really be a "copy and paste" set of comments. I do, however, ALWAYS listen. I just felt the need to comment on this one. I see it. I get it. Thank you for sharing this! People NEED to hear this song!
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TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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#397203 - 02/22/17 05:12 AM
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That is one punchy production -- vocally and instrumentally. One could not know what a rhino is and enjoy it!
We're always impressed with the number of guitar tracks that you work in so
seamlessly...yeah, they aren't all there at the same time but still...
This one is stamped with all the fj hallmarks -- great vocal, RT choice, arrangement and production.
Thanks for the reminder of this senseless slaughter. It's overwhelming to realize that such a magnificent animal could be sacrificed for a $#%^&$ horn.
In the perfect world efforts like Joanne's project would go viral. Sigh.
J&B
Appreciate all that, y'all...
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#397457 - 02/24/17 05:30 AM
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Hello, floyd and Joanne
Very powerful sung and well written.
As Rob & Anne-Marie said,
A very melodic and poppy verse with a good powered up chorus.
A very complete package!
Good work as always.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
Shigeki Adachi - I am pleased that you enjoyed this. Thanks for listening...
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#397520 - 02/24/17 02:03 PM
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Hi, Floyd !
Sorry for this late comment
but I´ve been away every now
and then and just haven´t had
time to listen before !
Now, I am really glad I found this
wonderful tune you´ve written !
I like it, both message and mix
and as always especially your harmonizing !
Cheers
Dani
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#397530 - 02/24/17 02:33 PM
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Enjoyed this one - I think the bridge was the most effective part for me - I think the lyrics had an extra kind of rythmic snap to them
You talk about this being some sort of project piece- did the project achieve its goals? Nice one!
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Songwriter for far too long
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#397538 - 02/24/17 03:05 PM
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Really nice song and vocals well written.
Enjoyed it a lot .
After a few plays I did feel tho that the whole sound had too much treble, Vocals would have sounded better as would the drums bass etc.
If the whole mix had a better bass/treble mix.
Love to hear it again with the above sorted.
Oh listened on my krk ,then on my beyrdynamics 770pro.then akg k 240,lastly my Bose Quiet Comfort headphones.
Good stuff guys
P.s I do think a lot of songs are posted a bit too loud I managed volume at 2 on my amp and it was blowing away i.e. no headroom left, I put amp too about 4/5 for a cd, So never get the feel of the song as I cant hear the amp kicking in as too LOUD for headphones/speakers.
Food for thought
Regards
Edited by Big john (02/24/17 03:11 PM)
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#397542 - 02/24/17 03:24 PM
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You should have written to Prince Harry.
In the U.K.
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#397633 - 02/25/17 06:40 AM
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There are OBVIOUSLY many great things that can be said for this song. Many have already been said. Many have also said that many have already been said. So I'm going to focus on just a few. every year the number gets a little smaller
every year bone pile a little taller I love the contrast in this! It makes it SO powerful and grabs attention right away...of course strengthened by rhyme. Nice! poachers grow like a cancer What an amazing line! Associating two horrible in such a powerful way. Wow...just..wow! if not you and me, who will have the answer? will you turn away when you hear their cries? what we gonna tell our children
what we gonna say we did
that we let the rhino end
or that we saved them for our kids
stand up for the sake of your sons
raise your voice for your daughters
give them a future
together we can stop the slaughter
so tell me...
what we gonna tell our children You know how to tug heart strings my friend! The way you go about it is brilliant! Children/End Bringing kids/children into it THEN stating sons and daughters...with the rhyme of slaughter..just CRAZY great writing! raise your voice for your daughters Literally raising your voice, a high point in the song with the lyric. Emotional man! All delivered with a bold, strong feel to the chorus. To me this is a "call to action!" a bit of a "wake up call" without being offensive. It. Just. Makes. You. Think. The best way to change a person's thinking, is getting them to think! educate the world
it's just a fairy tale
no magic in the horn
just a con man sale
wasting your money
won't cure a thing
death of the beast
is all it can bring Perfectly said. Is this not the solution? Kill the market save the animal! Again, change the thinking. FJ, I haven't been commenting on your songs, because it could really be a "copy and paste" set of comments. I do, however, ALWAYS listen. I just felt the need to comment on this one. I see it. I get it. Thank you for sharing this! People NEED to hear this song! Caaron - It is always nice to have the craft of the writing recognized by those who hold it most dear. You covered it all so nicely, I am happy to simply say Thanks! for such a nice review and "lyric dive"... it is, sincerely, appreciated...
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#397704 - 02/25/17 12:58 PM
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Hi, Floyd !
Sorry for this late comment
but I´ve been away every now
and then and just haven´t had
time to listen before !
Now, I am really glad I found this
wonderful tune you´ve written !
I like it, both message and mix
and as always especially your harmonizing !
Cheers
Dani
Thanks, Dani - always good to see you!... Enjoyed this one - I think the bridge was the most effective part for me - I think the lyrics had an extra kind of rythmic snap to them
You talk about this being some sort of project piece- did the project achieve its goals? Nice one!
fabkebab - thanks for the listen... there was an intended project, but it never came to fruition...
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#397790 - 02/26/17 05:16 AM
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Really nice song and vocals well written.
Enjoyed it a lot .
After a few plays I did feel tho that the whole sound had too much treble, Vocals would have sounded better as would the drums bass etc.
If the whole mix had a better bass/treble mix.
Love to hear it again with the above sorted.
Oh listened on my krk ,then on my beyrdynamics 770pro.then akg k 240,lastly my Bose Quiet Comfort headphones.
Good stuff guys
P.s I do think a lot of songs are posted a bit too loud I managed volume at 2 on my amp and it was blowing away i.e. no headroom left, I put amp too about 4/5 for a cd, So never get the feel of the song as I cant hear the amp kicking in as too LOUD for headphones/speakers.
Food for thought
Regards John - thanks for dropping in for a listen and thanks for your thoughts. I think you are right that it could use more bottom - I mixed this a couple of years ago when my focus was on other aspects of the soundscape, so I may have overlooked that aspect of it. Regarding loudness - I mix everything so that it matches the loudness of the CDs I listen to (generally on an iPod) and this sits along those nicely - so from my reference standpoint, I would not have a reason to mix lower...
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