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Has anyone had any success using Superior Drummer as a plugin for BIAB?

I've been able to add SD as a plugin in BIAB but the mappings are really off- midi tracks that should be played on the hi-hat are sent to SD on the bass drum, etc. I have multiple drumsets available in SD and I've tried them all but the MIDI mappings are always messed up.

I've searched on PG's site and I found a few threads on this before, but none of them address this particular issue. I've found other suggestions to make a custom patch map but this has proven easier said than done.

I use BIAB to generate rhythm section and piano tracks which I then import into Sonar X3 and record my guitars on top. This works without a hitch except I can't get the drum kit mapping right either way. I've tried exporting the MIDI drum tracks and dropping them into a SD track directly but this has the same results as loading SD directly in BIAB.

Something else to note is I mostly use Jazz or Latin styles, I think this might have something to do with it since the latin kits often have percussion instruments (clave, guirjo, etc) in addition to standard kit drums.

Am I missing something really obvious?

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https://midifilemapper.codeplex.com/
save the drum track then re-map it with MidiFileMapper.


MidiMapper VST
http://www.codefn42.com/notemapper/index.html
http://www.midikarval.net/MidiMapper.html

In your Midi drum track VSTi slot you will need to load MiniHost VSTi IL Minihost Modular 32.dll or IL Minihost Modular 64.dll, in MiniHost load VST Mapper then connect SD after that so it's getting the re-mapped midi from the Biab Midi Drum track.
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http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=394808#Post394808
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http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=368498#Post368498

http://www.toontrack.com/updates/manuals/Superior_Drummer_Operation_Manual.pdf

Toontrack Drums - Default MIDI Mapping

REAPER notemaps for Toontrack Libraries



Superior Drummer 2 Default Kit Trigger Notes

Kit piece Note

Kick C1

Snare Center D1

Snare Edge A0

Snare Rimshot E1

Snare Sidestick C#1

Snare Rim Only B3

Snare Mute Center G#3

Snare Flams A3

Snare Roll A#3

Snare Ruffs D#1

Hi‑hat Closed A#‑1

Hi‑hat Closed Tip F#1

Hi‑hat Tight D3

Hi‑hat Tight Tip D#3

Hi‑hat Seq Hard E3

Hi‑hat Seq Soft F3

Hi‑hat Closed Pedal A‑1

Hi‑hat Open Pedal B‑1

Hi‑hat Open 1 C0

Hi‑hat Open 2 C#0

Hi‑hat Open 3 D0

Hi‑hat Open 4 C3

Hi‑hat Open 5 F‑1

Hi‑hat Bell Closed B7

Hi‑hat Bell Open 1 C8

Hi‑hat Bell Open 2 C#8

Tom 1 Center C2

Tom 1 Rimshot A#4

Tom 2 Center B1

Tom 2 Rimshot G#4

Tom 4 Center G1

Tom 4 Rimshot D#4

Tom 5 Center F1

Tom 5 Rimshot C#4

Ride 4 Ride D#2

Ride 4 Bell F2

Ride 4 Punch B2

Cymbal 2 Crash C#2

Cymbal 2 Mute F#2

Cymbal 3 Crash G2

Cymbal 3 Mute B5

Cymbal 4 Crash F#0

Cymbal 4 Mute A#6

Cymbal 5 Crash A2

Cymbal 5 Mute A#2

Cowbell G#2





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The link below takes you to a PG Music page with two charts. Chart 1 lists the midi number for all the general midi instruments. Chart 2 lists the midi numbers for drums. +++ Two Midi Charts +++


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Nice info Pipeline and Jim. I've been having fun with SD too. Been taking some recorded snare hits from a bad sounding drum, and opening the .WAV file in Melodyne. I export it there as a MIDI file and drop that file into my SD personal presets. Then all I have to do is load SD on a new instrument track in Pro Tools and activate that MIDI file. Although it did import into Pro Tools as a flam hit, A3, from your chart. Just had to highlight all the snare hits and drag them down to a D1 to get a standard snare hit. Aligned exact with the original .WAV track. smile




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Thanks, I'll give this a shot.

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