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#195640 - 02/23/13 08:03 AM [User Showcase] New Song: "Wait And See"
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Noel96 Offline
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Hi,

I wrote this song last year and didn't get around to finishing it off until just a week or so ago. As with all I do, this was developed in BIAB, extra tracks added in RB, and the mix assembled in Reaper. With the exception of the MIDI strings, all tracks are realtracks.

... link to "Wait And See" (on Youtube)

Please feel free to comment in a critical way on any aspect of the song whatsoever.

Regards,
Noel



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Below is what I used to give me the basic backing. Unfortunately, I played around with so many tracks with this one that I can no longer remember what I ended up with.

Style: _PBALADM.STY (Med PopBal w Dreamy ElGt (85 RS))

518: Bass, Electric, Pop HalfNotes Ev 085
362: (1st instance) Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 085
362: (2nd instance) Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 085
542: Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Dreamy Ev 085
Strings: MIDI using Dimension Pro

RealDrums: NashvillePop16^2-a:Sidestick, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride


Edited by Noel96 (02/24/13 12:07 AM)
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#195641 - 02/23/13 10:22 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Noel96]
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Noel,

Outstanding song! The most uplifting and meaningful song I've heard since I don't know when.

The melody and vocals are great with real emotion. Excellent lyrics. You put the tracks together so they carry the lyrics and vocal just right.

Hat's off to you. The song is a feel good experience. The video went with the song perfectly as well.

Enjoyed it very much.

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#195642 - 02/23/13 10:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Noel96]
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Hi Noel

A really excellent production all round. Well done!

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#195643 - 02/23/13 10:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: JoanneCooper]
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Love the song, nice vocals! I like how to stretched them to hit some nice high notes. Some of the lines seems to be slightly hurried at times, and maybe to many words. That is an issue that struggle with at times, I often go back and try to find ways to say the same thing with a few less syllables.

But really Noel, that was a very nice production. It's going to get another listen or three.
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#195644 - 02/23/13 11:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Robh]
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It's all been said.
This is an excellent song to start a day with.

Guenter

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#195645 - 02/23/13 11:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Robh]
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Noel,

Loved it! What a great message. I really liked your "quick rhymes" - "dig deep..pick up their feet", and "walk the Earth..all we're worth". As Rob said, there are a couple of spots that could do with a word or two less, but nice stuff nonetheless.

The Chorus is STELLAR!!! Dont' know how it could be any better! It reminded me of "the big number" of a hit Broadway musical (I assume ya'll know about Broadway...). Because of that, I think it would have been cool if that last chorus had "the whole cast" singing. I can see them all walking out from various angles to spread across the stage, arm in arm for the big finale... surely you have that in your bag of tricks <grin>

Perhaps you could get everyone on the forum to send you a clip of them singing the last chorus, and you could put them all together... wouldn't THAT be something to witness.

Regardless.... GREAT job! (and congrats on DA MAN tip o' the hat).

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#195646 - 02/23/13 11:44 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: floyd jane]
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Nice one Noel. Like Floyd, I see the entire cast singing this as the closing number.



Regards,

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#195647 - 02/23/13 12:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: 90 dB]
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Wow, Noel, this is a powerful and inspirational song. Brilliant lyrics and beautifully original music. Impressive work. Sounds like you had to struggle just a bit vocally, but it's okay, you seem to have managed it in that regard. I really like this song, and once again, you have looked toward the future with a gleam in your eye, which, I always admire.. great stuff.

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#195648 - 02/23/13 01:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: pariahdise]
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#195649 - 02/23/13 03:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Pat Marr]
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My old Dad once told me - "Life, son - you've got to work at it to get the best from it. Don't sit on your arse and expect it to come to you. It won't".
Bravo Noel for echoing that sentiment.
Great track and "uplifting" as Austin51 said.
Love the "strings " sound. Somehow PG have got to do something in RT about proper "strings".
cheers
ian
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#195650 - 02/23/13 04:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: floyd jane]
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Quote:



The Chorus is STELLAR!!! Dont' know how it could be any better! It reminded me of "the big number" of a hit Broadway musical (I assume ya'll know about Broadway...). Because of that, I think it would have been cool if that last chorus had "the whole cast" singing. I can see them all walking out from various angles to spread across the stage, arm in arm for the big finale... surely you have that in your bag of tricks <grin>

floyd




Got that same feeling here, outstanding job and production.

Later,
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#195651 - 02/23/13 08:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: austin51]
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Hi Austin,

I was really relieved to read that the song 'worked' for you. I've been experimenting with inspirational and motivational lyrics for a while and, to be honest, I find that it's difficult to write lyrics like these because they can, all too easily, end up sounding preachy. When I posted this song, I was curious about how other ears would hear the words.

Thank you bringing a sense of relief my way

All the best,
Noel
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#195652 - 02/23/13 08:53 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: JoanneCooper]
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Hi Josie,

Thank you for jumping into the thread and visiting Youtube. I appreciate it.

All the best,
Noel
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#195653 - 02/23/13 08:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Robh]
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Hi Rob!

Good to read you! Thank you for having a listen.

My vocals are what I'd describe as "hit and miss" and that can often happen on a single word! Thank goodness for Reaper's ReaTune. I use it manually and it works a treat to tidy up they words or parts of words that don't go according to plan. That's a good point about the number of syllables. I thought I'd tidied that up sufficiently but obviously not seeing that both you and Floyd picked this up.

If I get around to this again, I'll get out the syllable scissors and trim a few.

Once again, "thank you!"
Noel
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#195654 - 02/23/13 09:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: boehm]
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Hi Guenter,

Once again, thank you for taking time to listen to some of my work. I was pleased to read that the song started your day off well. I was hoping that people would hear the words as uplifting. I always find it hard to know how the lyrics sound after having heard them a ton of times.

All the best,
Noel
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#195655 - 02/23/13 09:15 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Noel96]
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Noel,

Excellent song! Love the lyrics and overall feel - very uplifting and inspiring. Great vocal and video as well...

Bob
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#195656 - 02/23/13 09:39 PM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: floyd jane]
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G'Day Floyd!

Thank you. Yep, even in Australia, "Broadway" and all that it stands for are well known.

Your take on the arms-linking-and-everyone-singing finale immediately created a picture in my head. I didn't hear the song that way when I wrote it but, when I read what you'd said, it sprang to mind as a perfect fit. Maybe a big Broadway producer will hear it and think that too! I'll have to have a play around with your BIABettes and see if they can extend themselves. For what it's worth, when I wrote "Wait And See", I had Glen Campbell in mind and how some of his songs have solo vocal and strings/orchestral backing rather than vocal harmony.

The link below is a recent one of his but the principle is the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvQ77PoNJ6E

He's a one fine singer!

Once again, thank you. As I mentioned to Rob above, I'll keep those syllable scissors poised and ready if I revisit these lyrics.

All the best,
Noel

P.S. Thank you for alerting me to Pat Marr's post!!!!! His rubber stamp has been WAY too enthusiastic over in the Off Topic forum. I'm not quite sure what to do about that one yet. How does one deal with a rubber stamp that's got a mind of its own and reads these forums through rose-coloured glasses? Hopefully, I'll think of something soon!

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#195657 - 02/24/13 01:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: Noel96]
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" It reminded me of "the big number" of a hit Broadway musical "

+1 Very uplifting Noel.

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#195658 - 02/24/13 02:37 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: 90 dB]
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Hi Bob,

Thank you for taking time out to have a listen. Appreciate it. I didn't hear it as a Broadway number when I wrote it, but I'm beginning to hear it that way now!

All the best,
Noel
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#195659 - 02/24/13 02:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: New Song: "Wait And See" [Re: pariahdise]
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Hi RG,

Good to see you. Thanks for the positive feedback. You're absolutely right about my vocals. Singing is not my strong point but with Ozone and Nectar (iZotope), I can fake it a bit these days and nearly get away with it. You've caught me out regarding the "looking toward the future with a gleam in your eye", too. It seems that it doesn't matter what I try to write, I end up with that point of view. I wonder what Freud would make of that?

Once again, thank you.

All the best,
Noel
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