You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#452484 - 01/20/18 02:53 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Praise & Worship Forum Section
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5634
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5634
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
I've noticed multiple forum members have day jobs as worship center music directors. Some have mentioned using Band-in-a-Box to create music for worship services.

My idea is to have a Praise & Worship forum section to exchange conversations relating to the creation of songs for use in worship services. The conversations may range from song arrangement requests for assistance, ideas for songs to use during a service, how to perform certain Band-in-a-Box tasks and so on.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2020 UltraPlusPak BiaB(709) RealBand(Build 1)
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Audacity - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
i7 Desktop, 64bit Win 10 build 1909, 12 GB ram
256 GB M2 SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#452514 - 01/20/18 06:25 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 19542
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Matt Finley Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 19542
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
That could be useful for me. It’s a small part of what I do, but I am the church director of instrumental music for special/holiday services. We have very odd instrumentation so I have to write or revise just about everything. I often use BIAB along with other tools in this effort. Collaborating with others could be helpful.

Good suggestion, Jim.
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Win Audiophile; [& 2019 Mac UltraPak]. Software: Cakewalk, Adobe Audition, Ozone, Encore; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7, 16 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & monitors.

Top
#452816 - 01/22/18 05:19 AM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 11684
Loc: Pensacola, Florida
jford Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 11684
Loc: Pensacola, Florida
As the paid director of Music Ministries at the Methodist church I attend, I would love to have a discussion area for church related music.

Even though my main focus is choir-centric traditional worship style, I also work with the contemporary praise team and we often have special music events. So I can see a lot of benefit to this kind of forum.

+1
_________________________
John

LaptopBeast HP Win10Pro64 8GB
AudioBeast ASUS Win10Pro64 16GB
VideoBeast HP Win10Pro64 8GB

BB-RB2020/UMC404HD/Casio Kbds/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Samplitude/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Noteworthy/NIKomplete/Halion/Garritan/IK

http://www.sus4chord.com

Top
#452918 - 01/22/18 12:50 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 19542
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Matt Finley Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 19542
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
The only reason I can think of NOT to do this is that others will want a separate forum for each music genre. I think we want to avoid that. In my opinion, there are too many subforums now. I wonder if this is more of a Tips and Tricks type of topic? I don't know.
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Win Audiophile; [& 2019 Mac UltraPak]. Software: Cakewalk, Adobe Audition, Ozone, Encore; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7, 16 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & monitors.

Top
#452989 - 01/22/18 06:48 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Matt Finley]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5634
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5634
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Church music is not a genre. It is non secular. Every music genre I know of has a Praise & Worship equivalent be it classical, folk, rock, hip-hop, country, blues. The only one I'm not sure of is jazz because I don't know much about jazz.

My concern while writing the post is forum members that do not have a Christian heritage would feel excluded. While that is possible I don't believe that is the case.

Band-in-a-Box predominately supports Western based music. I have acquaintances from the Middle East and Pacific rim and Western music is becoming increasingly intertwined with music from these cultures. I believe any person using BiaB realizes the program is based on Western music so, while their religious songs may not be as familiar to us as traditional Praise & Worship songs they still will follow that concept. (Difficult to explain. I hope that made sense.)

The other negative thought I had is the underlying subject matter, religion, may make some users feel uncomfortable. That argument is more difficult to defend. By nature, this forum wants to be inclusive. A forum can't be inclusive if it makes someone uncomfortable.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2020 UltraPlusPak BiaB(709) RealBand(Build 1)
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Audacity - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
i7 Desktop, 64bit Win 10 build 1909, 12 GB ram
256 GB M2 SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#452992 - 01/22/18 07:06 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 19542
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Matt Finley Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 19542
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Oh sure, plenty of jazz. I’ve done a lot. Classical normally, but jazz and folk often too. I see your point
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Win Audiophile; [& 2019 Mac UltraPak]. Software: Cakewalk, Adobe Audition, Ozone, Encore; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7, 16 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & monitors.

Top
#453341 - 01/24/18 06:44 AM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 10/09/16
Posts: 818
Loc: Central Ohio
edshaw Offline
Expert

Registered: 10/09/16
Posts: 818
Loc: Central Ohio
Can't you ask a tough one, Jim? Seriously, though, I would
not want to see us risk the informality and range of interests the forum has now. I want to keep up wth what everyone is doing.
This is not to say the hymnal could not use better representation in the styles sheets. I'm working on a BB
for a version of "It'll Be Worth It After, All," done in the classic non denominational gospel soul style, a lot of pauses and syncopation. I'mhaving a time of it. Hey, that's half the fun. (Anyone willing to take a crack at it?)

Gospel jazz is what reignited the Duke Ellington band when it looked like dance bands were history -- 1956. Then, there was Ray.
_________________________
Biab for WIN 2018
Win 10 64bit
Reaper
TASCAM Digital deck

Top
#493474 - 09/29/18 12:28 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 113
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
AlastairLC Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 113
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
From the dates of the posts, it looks like nothing has happened on this. That’s a shame.
I use BIAB backing tracks when I play guitar solos at the Episcopal Curch of the Nativity here in Scottsdale, AZ. I just use bass, fingerpicking and strumming guitar tracks. That way, I can play melody or improvise. I used to record my own guitar backing tracks over BIAB's bass track, but gave it up as too time consuming (after all I’m not paid for this.) But I never have BIAB play what I can’t.
These solos are very popular. I play mostly spirituals, not praise songs. The latter need a rock band and vocals, and I’m not keen on them.
I’d be interested to hear what songs others are using in this context.


Edited by AlastairLC (09/29/18 12:39 PM)
_________________________
Cheers! -Alastair

Top
#495891 - 10/14/18 02:03 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 4911
Loc: North Carolina
David Snyder Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 4911
Loc: North Carolina

Jim,

Somehow I missed this.

I think this is a good idea. I play in a Praise and Worship Band in my church too.

It is all live, and we sort of wing it, though we do practice. It is all live musicianship and intuition following the vocalists, basically.

How do you see such a forum making a contribution to do the cause so to speak, and what might we do?

We don't use a lot of backing tracks.

Do you have ideas of other things that might be shared and discussed?

Thanks for bringing this up.
_________________________
David Snyder
Audiophile Everything + Studio + Instruments + Fingers
ASCAP, NSAI

www.davidsnydermusic.com
www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder
www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel
www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder







Top
#496109 - 10/15/18 04:07 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 4911
Loc: North Carolina
David Snyder Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 4911
Loc: North Carolina

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=newreply&Board=50&Number=495434&what=showflat&fpart=1

Here is a new member using BIAB to pitch church songs to the music director
_________________________
David Snyder
Audiophile Everything + Studio + Instruments + Fingers
ASCAP, NSAI

www.davidsnydermusic.com
www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder
www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel
www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder







Top
#496133 - 10/15/18 04:51 PM [Other Programs Wishlist] Re: Praise & Worship Forum Section [Re: David Snyder]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5634
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5634
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Hi David,

I don't have an idea how the section would work. I figure it will be like the other sections where users decide what and where are the best place to post.

Over time I've noticed many frequent forum contributors comment they also contribute in different musical ways to their house of worship. Since most use Band-in-a-Box in some manner to me it makes sense to me to combine the two, overlapping interests.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2020 UltraPlusPak BiaB(709) RealBand(Build 1)
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Audacity - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
i7 Desktop, 64bit Win 10 build 1909, 12 GB ram
256 GB M2 SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top


PG Music News
We're at The NAMM Show!

Heading to The NAMM Show? Make sure you stop by Booth 1015 (Hall E) - we'll be doing product demonstrations every hour, with some RealTracks Artists popping in for performances with Band-in-a-Box too!

Click here for more information about The NAMM Show, held in Anaheim California at the Anaheim Convention Center.

It's Almost Over - Order by January 15th to SAVE on Xtra Styles PAKs & Loops-with-Style PAK 1!

NEW products for Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac: Xtra Styles PAK 8 and Loops-with-Style PAK 1!

--SPECIAL PRICING ONLY AVAILABLE UNTIL JANUARY 15TH!--

We've added 164 fantastic new RealStyles in Xtra Styles PAK 8! These are imaginative new combinations of our existing RealTracks library that fall into four categories: Rock/Pop 8, Jazz 8, Country 8, and Celtic 1. To celebrate the release of Xtra Styles PAK 8, ALL of our Xtra Styles PAKs 1-8 are on sale for just $29 each! Learn more & listen to demos here.

Also brand-new is our Loops-with-Style PAK 1 for Band-in-a-Box®, which gives you the chance to expand your loops collection with 100 new loops! We've taken the RealDrums and RealTracks source audio and remixed, remastered, and combined it to create these original loops. All of your favorite genres are covered like jazz, funk, rock, pop, electronic, hip-hop, and more! To show them in action, we've created 50 new RealStyles that each include two of the loops. Plus, if you use the loops in Band-in-a-Box, we've included intelligent versions of the loops that automatically switch at A and B part markers. Each loop has a matching sister loop that works perfectly for another substyle! Get started with Loops-with-Style PAK 1 for the introductory price of just $19 until January 15th (reg: $29). Learn more & watch a great video demonstration here.

Note: Xtra Styles PAK 8 and Loops-with-Style PAK 1 require the Band-in-a-Box® 2019 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Windows User? Choose from these links: Xtra Styles PAKs | Loops-with-Style PAK 1

Built-in Audio Chord Wizard Enhancements in Band-in-a-Box® 2020!

Our Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows version includes some great enhancements to the Built-in Audio Chord Wizard!

-The built-in Audio Chord Wizard is now accessible from the [Audio Chord Wizard] button.
-The Audio Edit window now displays chords and tempos for each bar. They are shown when the Audio Chord Wizard mode is active so that you can see the tempo for each bar as you set the bar lines.
-When you start entering bar lines, the program automatically sets the tempo to the tempo of the first bar.
-Once the tempo of the first bar is set, the program automatically moves the location of the first bar of audio over so that the visual space of the count-in bars is visible.
-After you’ve added the bar lines, IF you adjust the first or second bar and the tempo of the first bar changes accordingly, the program automatically changes the tempo of the song to match.
-Multi-window display. This gives the Audio Chord Wizard a multi-window view so that you can see and edit both the Audio Edit window and the Chords Sheet at the same time. This display is best viewed with a small toolbar mode. This allows you to see the chords as they are being interpreted by the wizard.
-The Audio Chord Wizard can send the transcribed MIDI notes to the Soloist track for further analysis by the user (via Piano Roll or Notation window). Note that this is a "snapshot" view every 8th note of the pitches present, not an attempt at polyphonic transcription. To use this feature, enable the "MIDI to Soloist" check box.

Read more about these enhancements here, or jump to the New Feature - Audio Chord Wizard (ACW) Enhancements section of our New Features video here.

The Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows® Special ENDS January 15th!!!

IT'S YOUR LAST WEEKEND TO SAVE UP TO 50% ON YOUR BAND-IN-A-BOX® UPGRADE!

Our SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Upgrade purchases ends January 15, 2020, so there is still some time to save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows Upgrade!

Customers LOVE Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows with over 50 new features, plus the 202 New RealTracks, new RealStyles, 15 new MIDI SuperTracks, 170 new Instrumental Studies, 30 new MIDI Styles, 280 RealDrums Transcriptions, the 2020 Free Bonus PAK, 2020 49-PAK, and new Xtra Styles PAK 8!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2020 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 40 Unreleased RealTracks) upgrade it to the 2020 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows at: www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows Patch Update Available! (Build 642)

Still using Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows? Build 642 is a free update full of updates for version 2019, and includes a VST DAW Plugin update to 1.16.29.

Learn more and download here. | Direct download

Note: this patch is not intended to update your version to the recently released Band-in-a-Box® 2020, which is available for purchase here.

Summary of Changes for Version 2019 Build 642 (Jan 08 2020):
Changed: Default the 'include similar styles in the stylepicker' to false each bootup.
Improved: BootupLog.txt will include more elaborate information when troubleshooting bootup problems. This only applies if WriteBootUpLog.txt is present in the Data folder.
Updated: PDF and help (routine cleanup/updaes).
Fixed: "There is no audio file currently recorded" error message when using Audio > Plugin.
Fixed: [Video] > Render Video(s)... menu item should launch the Make Chordsheet Video dialog if Video RealTracks export is not available.
Fixed: Access violation in Song Titles browser if no song is selected when clicking [Close].
Fixed: Applying audio effects using Audio > Plugins would fail with error "Plugin cancelled. Original file is preserved".
Fixed: Audio > Edit Audio > Timeshift Audio would crash the program if the Audio Edit window was not open.
Fixed: Audio will not import to a custom position if there is already audio on the Audio track.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash during bootup if an ASIO driver was previously selected, and the device is no longer connected to the computer.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash during bootup if there is a problem with font installation (usually after upgrading Windows 7 to Windows 10).
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash when opening a song that contains note-based lyrics.
Fixed: Bar Lyrics and Section Text layers do not line up with bars in Notation window if there are repeats in song, and fake sheet mode is enabled.
Fixed: Clicking OK in the MIDI/Audio Driver Setup dialog should not close the floating Mixer window.
Fixed: Close button in Select chorus start/end dialog should behave like Cancel, ie user clicking on bar afterwards shouldn't do anything.
Fixed: Crash with error "external exception C06D007F" while launching if using Windows XP.
Fixed: Dragging a single track to export MIDI causes that track to be permanently soloed.
Fixed: If an ASIO driver cannot connect during bootup, the default WAS driver should be used instead.
Fixed: If using the 64 bit version of Band-in-a-Box, the BB2Go window would display an erroneous QuickTime version, and converting files to .m4a would fail. QuickTime is only available for the 32 bit version, but is only required if using Windows Vista or earlier.
Fixed: Lyrics would not display in the Big Lyrics if "Show chord symbols above the lyrics" was enabled.
Fixed: melodists were getting quantized incorrectly.
Fixed: Possible crash if editing a text layer while using the floating Notation Window.
Fixed: Possible freeze when importing compressed audio files.
Fixed: Practice window | Master Solos | Blues Piano, displays N/A.
Fixed: RealTracks #2975 (Vocal Oohs-Aahs) sometimes played incorrect chords for m7b5 and C7.
Fixed: Rebuilding styles list was causing errors sometimes.
Fixed: Several Piano and Organ MIDI SuperTracks have been edited to remove spurious MIDI events (e.g. mod wheel sometimes caused 'warbling' effect).
Fixed: Sforzando might not automatically be added to the VST list, causing Hi-Q patch selection to fail.
Fixed: Some bars for the B section of RT 2529 were dropping out.
Fixed: Some Bass and Nylon Guitar RealTracks (including 2718, 2724, 2722, 2725, 2719) have RealCharts added.
Fixed: StylePicker: User Category list wasn't refreshing after choosing a new user category.
Fixed: The About dialog said 'for Macintosh' instead of 'for Windows'.
Fixed: The Drop Station would not update if dropping a file onto Presonus Studio One.
Fixed: When choosing a compressed format for rendering files, and "One file per track" is enabled, the resulting files are .wav format instead of the compressed format.
Fixed: Wrong notes on Oohs and Aahs RealTracks.

Summary of changes for Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin 1.16.29:
Added: copy selected cell if nothing highlighted
Added: shift-arrows to select in chord sheet
Added: SHIFT-ENTER to go backwards in chord sheet
Added: SHIFT-TAB to go backwards in chord sheet, TAB to go forward
Added: support for all Biab file types
Fixed: Added message if attempting to drag tracks before generating
Fixed: Alert window buttons "punch hole" when pressed
Fixed: Audio stutters when resizing plugin in some DAWs
Fixed: auto gen after open feature not working in Studio One 4
Fixed: bounds when highlighting in chord sheet
Fixed: C#7b5b9b13 to chord sheet
Fixed: distortion when stopping playback in pro tools
Fixed: losing focus in chord sheet
Fixed: make selected cell at the end after pasting
Fixed: Open dialog in infinite loop
Fixed: plugin stops playing non-synced tracks when closing and then opening plugin
Fixed: Send space bar keystrokes to DAW
Fixed: some styles not dragging all tracks from blue button
Fixed: track text not resizing correctly
Fixed: Transpose not working
Fixed: Verify folders before each call to Biab

New Left-Handed & Student View Guitar Window in Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows!

With Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows, the Guitar window has been remade and now supports the left-handed (in addition to right-handed) guitar and student view!

The student view is the view a student (or YouTube video watcher) would have of the (right-handed) guitar facing him with the head at the right and low notes at the top. There's also a left-handed student view, so all 4 possible views are supported.

To change the view, press the [Guitar] toolbar button to open the Guitar window and then the [Settings] button.

See this new feature in action when you jump to the "Left-Handed & Student View Guitar Fretboard" topic in our 2020 New Features video: Click here...

Loops with Style PAK 1 - Just $19 Until January 15th!

The recently released Loops-with-Style PAK 1 is your chance to expand your loops collection with 100 new loops!

To show them in action, we've created 50 new RealStyles that each include two of the loops. Plus, if you use the loops in Band-in-a-Box, we've included intelligent versions of the loops that automatically switch at A and B part markers. Each loop has a matching sister loop that works perfectly for another substyle!

We're offering Loops-with-Style PAK 1 at the introductory price of $19, but only until January 15, 2020 (reg. price $29). Purchase here.

Note: Loops-with-Style PAK 1 requires the Band-in-a-Box® 2019 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Watch the demonstration video...

Windows user? Click here for product information, or to to purchase Loops-with-Style PAK 1.

Forum Stats
30958 Members
63 Forums
61977 Topics
523492 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
JohnnyRock, Mepaulus, Victor East, Raffi1959, Ebtony

30958 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Noel96 258
Matt Finley 188
MarioD 182
Pipeline 168
VideoTrack 160
Rustyspoon# 133
Jim 131
Jim Fogle 131
Janice & Bud 121
Rob Helms 113
Today's Birthdays
ROCKIN-TJ