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#498091 - 10/27/18 04:23 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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Hi Alan,

This is terrific! It overflows with 'happy' energy. I found everything about this very entertaining to the point that I was mesmermised. When the clip ended, I found myself wishing there was more.

Like yourself (and others), I thought the ending let the journey down a little bit. While it's functional, I think that there's probably a better ending out there somewhere just waiting to be discovered.

As an alternative option to the fade out, an ending that I'd try is...

1. leave the mandolin and let it end as is

2. freeze the mandolin track

3. enter into Song Settings and de-activate the 2-bar ending

4. extend the song for 4-6 bars past the bar that contains the mandolin ending

5. put a "Hold all instruments" chord (i.e. X...) either 1 or 1.5 bars later than the bar that contains the mandolin ending

6. generate and see if the modified ending fits

I just tried the above with the demo file for RT1862 (soloist mandolin) and it made the ending a little less abrupt. I've found that the freeze function opens the door to heaps of possibilities.

To get the best effect, the song should be around 4 bars longer than the bar with the hold chord to allow for natural decay.

I'm going back for another listen now!

All the best to both you and Di. You really are incredible people smile

Noel

P.S. Congratulations on the Songtradr placement! You deserve every success that comes your way!
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#498112 - 10/27/18 07:13 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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Loved this tune. That mandolin was so cool. Really neat backtrack. The bass runs were very cool as well. Well done. Hope Di is feeling better

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#498118 - 10/27/18 08:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Belladonna]
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Originally Posted By: Belladonna
Love the energy in this song. Definitely got me up and moving. Very fun!!


Hi Donna. Thank you so much. Glad it "moved" you! I appreciate the listen and very nice comments. Best to you.

Alan
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#498119 - 10/27/18 08:11 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi Alan,

This is terrific! It overflows with 'happy' energy. I found everything about this very entertaining to the point that I was mesmermised. When the clip ended, I found myself wishing there was more.

Like yourself (and others), I thought the ending let the journey down a little bit. While it's functional, I think that there's probably a better ending out there somewhere just waiting to be discovered.

As an alternative option to the fade out, an ending that I'd try is...

1. leave the mandolin and let it end as is

2. freeze the mandolin track

3. enter into Song Settings and de-activate the 2-bar ending

4. extend the song for 4-6 bars past the bar that contains the mandolin ending

5. put a "Hold all instruments" chord (i.e. X...) either 1 or 1.5 bars later than the bar that contains the mandolin ending

6. generate and see if the modified ending fits

I just tried the above with the demo file for RT1862 (soloist mandolin) and it made the ending a little less abrupt. I've found that the freeze function opens the door to heaps of possibilities.

To get the best effect, the song should be around 4 bars longer than the bar with the hold chord to allow for natural decay.

I'm going back for another listen now!

All the best to both you and Di. You really are incredible people smile

Noel

P.S. Congratulations on the Songtradr placement! You deserve every success that comes your way!


Hi Noel,

Your comments are always music to my ears! I'm more than delighted you liked this. And thank you so much for your detailed suggestion - gonna work on that tonight and see what happens. I'm very appreciative of your time and effort with that explanation.

I can't change the track Songtradr accepted, but still, it's worth the effort to try to redo the ending for the indigenous integrity of the song. I've been doing okay at Songtradr - I've had three songs accepted to the advertiser boards and two songs sent to the music supervisors of their projects (film, commercial, etc.). Neither supervisor selected my referrals from Songtradr, but it was nice to have listened to by persons in their capacity. Sometimes they remember a name when searching for another project.

Again, thank you so much for everything. Hope all is maintaining well in your world. I'm doing fine.

Alan

PS: Di says "Hi Noel! I, too, appreciate you liking our music."
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#498120 - 10/27/18 08:14 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Loved this tune. That mandolin was so cool. Really neat backtrack. The bass runs were very cool as well. Well done. Hope Di is feeling better


Hi Scott.

I truly appreciate those really nice comments! i think the mandolin is a pretty cool instrument that doesn't get its just appreciation. Thought I'd throw it out there in the spotlight for a few minutes. I sampled 5 or 6 bass lines before settling on that one. Thanks for validating my choice! Wishing you the best.

ALan
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#498127 - 10/27/18 09:19 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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Alan

That was pretty indeed! Great sound and mixing and some well deserved praise for this one.
Nice work.

Peter

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#498141 - 10/27/18 11:58 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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Alan & Di,

This actually has a cool gypsy jazz feel to me—one of may best mates, who is a huge gypsy jazz fan, would be flipping over this tune. I’ll be sure to play it for him. Short, sweet and engaging all the way. Beautifully done!

Kind regards,

Deej

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#498215 - 10/28/18 01:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: PeterF]
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Originally Posted By: PeterF
Alan

That was pretty indeed! Great sound and mixing and some well deserved praise for this one.
Nice work.

Peter


Peter,

Thank you so much! That's very kind of you to say. Best to you.

Alan
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#498217 - 10/28/18 01:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Deej56]
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Hi Deej,

Thanks for the listen and very nice comments. Yes, this does have a touch of Gypsy Jazz to it, Had a thrown in a fiddle lead in places, then it would have been a bit reminiscent of Reinhardt and Grappelli. I love that music!

I Hope your friend likes it when he listens. If so, here's a link to a Gypsy Jazz tune I did several years ago he might like:

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12926091

It got picked up for a British documentary on Gypsy Jazz.

Anyway, thank you for your kind comments. I appreciate them very much. Wishing you the best.

Alan
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#498242 - 10/28/18 03:51 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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hi alan great mix so clear and crisp totally engaging thanks enjoyed my listen eric
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#498248 - 10/28/18 04:10 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: F.M.M.]
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Originally Posted By: F.M.M.
hi alan great mix so clear and crisp totally engaging thanks enjoyed my listen eric


Thank you very much, Eric. Glad you enjoyed it! Best to you,

Alan
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#498310 - 10/29/18 04:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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Nice instrumental, well constructed and mix sounds good too. Love the Mandolin!

Best wishes to Di!

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#498312 - 10/29/18 04:16 AM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Nice instrumental, well constructed and mix sounds good too. Love the Mandolin!

Best wishes to Di!


Hi Dave,

Thank you very much for those really nice comments. I really appreciate it. And Di sends her sincere "thank you" for your good wishes - as do I.

Thank you very much!

Alan
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#498606 - 10/30/18 06:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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Nice little foot tapper Alan!! You have such a knack for putting music together. Great mix too!! GIve my best to Di!! Take care. Greg

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#498613 - 10/30/18 06:41 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Greg Johnson]
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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Nice little foot tapper Alan!! You have such a knack for putting music together. Great mix too!! GIve my best to Di!! Take care. Greg


Thanks so much, Greg - I really appreciate that! You're not too shabby yourself, ya know! I'll pass on your greeting to Di - we both appreciate that. Best to you.

ALan
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#499314 - 11/03/18 10:39 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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Alan,

Very fun song!
Mandolin solo is very nice.
Chet Atkins' style side guitar is also wonderful and it perfect fits this tune.
I entirely agree with you.
It has elements of jazz, pop, easy listening, country, and latin.
So, I cannot tell which genre it fits into, either.
I love this chord progression.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi

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#499365 - 11/04/18 05:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Al-David]
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So enjoyable, right from the first “dive” into the minor key, reminded me of a stroll through the countryside. Shows how much you can get out of BIAB with skillful selections of style, instruments, RT’s, etc. With seasoned judgment about overall shape of the track, you’ve made it interesting...I’ve found that letting BIAB self-generate, sometimes you get predictable, less-than-interesting outcomes..but you made something quite perky and pleasing. For the ending, I would substitute 4 bars of that minimal intro, ending in a stop, if that makes sense. Great post, Alan.

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#499463 - 11/04/18 03:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: animarorecords]
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Originally Posted By: animarorecords
Alan,

Very fun song!
Mandolin solo is very nice.
Chet Atkins' style side guitar is also wonderful and it perfect fits this tune.
I entirely agree with you.
It has elements of jazz, pop, easy listening, country, and latin.
So, I cannot tell which genre it fits into, either.
I love this chord progression.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi


Hi Shegeki,

Thank you for the very nice comments. By the way, your command of the English language us very, very good!

I'm still not sure what genre to call this, but it was fun to write. I'm delighted you enjoyed your listen.

Best to you,

Alan
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#499466 - 11/04/18 03:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: Here And There [Re: Tano Music]
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So enjoyable, right from the first “dive” into the minor key, reminded me of a stroll through the countryside. Shows how much you can get out of BIAB with skillful selections of style, instruments, RT’s, etc. With seasoned judgment about overall shape of the track, you’ve made it interesting...I’ve found that letting BIAB self-generate, sometimes you get predictable, less-than-interesting outcomes..but you made something quite perky and pleasing. For the ending, I would substitute 4 bars of that minimal intro, ending in a stop, if that makes sense. Great post, Alan.


Hi!

Thank you very much! I'm g;ad you found it pleasing. I rarely use styles "as is":. I would guess I average, in total, 3-4 hours trying various tracks and finding the ones the meld fairly well. It's definitely interesting and sometimes gives my ideas for other music projects under construction.

The song has already been accepted for an opportunity to which I submitted. I was advised to keep it as is because of that. But I might do what you and Noel suggested just for my own purposes. I appreciate your suggestion - sounds like a good variation. Many thanks! And best to you.

Alan
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