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I was unaware of Lil Peep's untimely passing. So sad when talent passes too early. In homage, I submit this for the consideration of songwriters everywhere. R.I.P. Lil Peep. https://youtu.be/NEoVjmfYlJ8Regards, Bob
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I was sad to Peep go. New hip hop isn't generally my bag (I'm in my late 30s, and prefer stuff from the 90s and aughts), but his songs had a lot more emotion and vulnerability than we usually see in the genre.
I think the best art comes from pain, and he clearly had plenty of it.
Cheers Kent
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I watched the video. He looked wasted to start with.....popping pills and that didn't look like tobacco.
Is it really a surprise he died?
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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So sad for many of our youth today. A tragedy of drugs and alcohol and an insidious evil promoted by the music industry fat cats. Whatever happened to be the best you can be?
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From Wikipedia:
"On November 15, 2017, Lil Peep was found dead on his tour bus when his manager went to check on him in preparation for that night's performance at a Tucson, Arizona venue.[98] Foul play was not suspected,[99] with his death believed to be from an overdose.[100] In a series of Instagram posts in the hours leading up to his death, Lil Peep claimed to have ingested psilocybin mushrooms and marijuana concentrate. In another, he claimed to have consumed six Xanax pills following a video depicting his attempts to drop an unidentified pill into his mouth several times before successfully swallowing one and shaking a full prescription bottle."
"On December 8, the Pima County Office of the Medical Examiner released details from a toxicology report, certifying the cause of death was an accidental overdose due to the effects of the pain medications fentanyl and alprazolam.[33] Blood tests tested positive for cannabis, cocaine and the painkiller Tramadol. Urine tests also showed the presence of multiple powerful opiates, including Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone (Dilaudid), Oxycodone and Oxymorphone. There was no alcohol in his system.[1]"
It's a small wonder he was depressed. He was a walking medicine cabinet.
50 years ago he would have been committed to a mental institution, to prevent him from harming himself.
In today's world, he's a star.
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Bob
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He was taken way too soon. He died literally like a week after his 21st birthday. While personally not a giant fan of his music, he definitely had a major impact on the direction hip hop took in recent years. His music had a lot of darkness and vulnerability, something you don't find much in hip hop music. It's a shame he didn't get the help he deserved. R.I.P. Lil Peep
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It's a small wonder he was depressed. He was a walking medicine cabinet. I wasn't familiar with Lil Peep, and ended up looking at a number of videos and articles as a result of your post. It's a sad story. From what I've gathered, it's the other way around: Lil Peep was a frequent user of drugs, due to his mental health issues, [32] which ultimately caused his death two weeks after his 21st birthday, on November 15, 2017. 50 years ago he would have been committed to a mental institution, to prevent him from harming himself. That's still the case in at least 37 states. Even 50 years ago, the stay would have been temporary. Are you suggesting that involuntary commitment would have a better outcome? Involuntary commitment can actually serve as a disincentive to seek mental health care. In today's world, he's a star. Does this quote from 1969 sound familiar? The counter culture has its sacraments in sex, drugs and rock. While not a fan of the music, I get the impression that he was a star mostly because he put in the hard work.
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"From what I've gathered, it's the other way around: Originally Posted By: Lil Peep's Wikipedia page Lil Peep was a frequent user of drugs, due to his mental health issues,[32] which ultimately caused his death two weeks after his 21st birthday, on November 15, 2017." "...the cause of death was an accidental overdose due to the effects of the pain medications fentanyl and alprazolam.[33] Blood tests tested positive for cannabis, cocaine and the painkiller Tramadol. Urine tests also showed the presence of multiple powerful opiates, including Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone (Dilaudid), Oxycodone and Oxymorphone." I suppose these were all prescribed by a mental health professional, right? "Even 50 years ago, the stay would have been temporary. Are you suggesting that involuntary commitment would have a better outcome?" At least he would still be alive. Regards, Bob
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I suppose these were all prescribed by a mental health professional, right? There's no question he died of a self-inflicted drug overdose. But it seemed that you were saying his depression was caused by the drugs. He had severe mental health issues before the drug abuse. Based on what he said in interviews, it seems that his underlying condition of mental illness was worsening, and likely driving the drug abuse. At least he would still be alive. Incarcerating people for mental illness isn't anything close to a cure. Even 50 years ago, they'd only be able to hold him for a limited time, and then he'd be back on the street. A week, a month, a year... Sometimes there's not much you can do except watch helplessly as someone self-destructs. Truthfully, I wasn't impressed by the music or the video. Listening to emo hip hop isn't something that's on my To-Do list. But the more I read about him, the more I was impressed by what he accomplished, despite the tragic ending. Thanks for posting it!
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"There's no question he died of a self-inflicted drug overdose.
But it seemed that you were saying his depression was caused by the drugs."
Precisely.
A combination of cannabis, cocaine and the painkiller Tramado, is likely to make one depressed. Add into that mix, Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone (Dilaudid), Oxycodone and Oxymorphone, and now that's a PARTY!
"Incarcerating people for mental illness isn't anything close to a cure."
My mother was a psychiatric nurse for over 40 years. I am fully aware of the ravages of mental illness, and the need for "incarcerating" people who are out of control. Sometimes, you can save their lives.
Regards,
Bob
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