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Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 #505874 12/02/18 06:47 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,407 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,407 Wauconda	Never really needed any fancy midi sounds in BIAB while I had the GM Coyote Forte installed. That does not mean I would not like to use my Kontact or more advanced midi sound tools. It was just too much trouble to get these better non-GM sounds to work in BIAB. Well, at least up until now... So will I lose my Coyote Forte in the new BIAB 64 or will J-Bridge connect it to the BIAB 64? And while we are on the topic have any of the new 2019 features in BIAB make the use of non-GM instruments work more easily in BIAB 64? I still have my money in my pocket, but the new BIAB-VST is calling me. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 DrDan #505892 12/02/18 07:29 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,871 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,871 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	I read something about future plans to make a 64-bit version of Coyote Forte. Don’t forget that in the meantime you are not losing what you already bought: BIAB 2019 comes with both 32 and 64-bit versions. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 DrDan #505942 12/02/18 10:54 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,130 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,130 Winston-Salem, NC USA	Coyote Forte 64 is not released but should be some time in the future. However, 2019 Band-in-a-Box does include a 64 bit, multi-timbral, midi compatible soft synth player, +++ SynthFont +++ . SynthFont plays various types of instrument patches like Sforzando, Kontakt, Dimension Pro, SampleTamk and Halion. However, unlike those other players that only play one instrument patch at a time it also resembles HyperCanvas and TTS-1 by loading and playing 16 channels of instrument patches at the same time. SynthFont also automatically loads instrument patches if so directed when a midi file having preassigned instrument patches is loaded. Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 DrDan #505973 12/02/18 12:58 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 36 FL photodoc Enthusiast
photodoc Enthusiast Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 36 FL	Looking at that web site link for synthfont.com, I see several different products listed: Version 2.2.0.0 for SynthFont 2 / Synthfont2x64 (paid versions) Version 1.730 for SynthFont1 (free version) Then there is a product Version 3.100 for VSTSynthFont (32 / 64-bit) that is listed as "Not Freeware" Has a 15 day trial, then a 15 Euro fee for a license. That looks like the one included in the new update here? The new features for 2019 BIAB states..... We include a 64-bit GM MIDI synth VSTSynthFont64 with default GM soundfonts, allowing you to specify any GM soundfont even larger ones (up to 2 GB). So, can anyone confirm what is the version supplied by PGmusic? Is there a license or serial number provided, or perhaps not necessary? Thanks! Jerry Jerry 2019 BiaB Megapack (634), RB 2019 (Build 4) Reaper 5.983 x64, Audient id14 USB interface, Voicemeeter Potato 3.0.0.8, Nektar LX49+, Roland E20 i7-6700K Skylake desktop, 64bit Win10 Pro(1903), 32GB ram, 512GB system SSD + 2TB data SSD

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 DrDan #506034 12/02/18 07:34 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia	The version I have in BIAB64 is 3.102. PG Music include it as the the free soft synth for the 64-bit BIAB. MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 DrDan #506038 12/02/18 08:18 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,687 Redondo Beach, Ca. jazzmammal Veteran
jazzmammal Veteran Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,687 Redondo Beach, Ca.	To me the Synthfont sounds better than Forte but I still like Forte as well. One thing to understand about BB64 is there is no difference between that and the 32 bit version other than it being 64 bit. The functions are identical. So what does having a 64 bit Biab give you? Seriously, nothing right now. If you want to use 64 bit plugins in BB32 Jbridge works perfect and costs ten bucks or so. Still, having a 64 bit Biab means you can use those plugs natively so you save the ten bucks and maybe some of those plugs work better natively than they do using Jbridge. People have been using all the big name softsynths with Jbridge for years now and no complaints. The other thing is the PG effects won't work in 64 bit but we're told they will be made 64 bit later on. Bottom line if you like the Forte and the PG effects just use BB32, you're not losing any functionality. Bob Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 DrDan #506098 12/03/18 03:01 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 36 FL photodoc Enthusiast
photodoc Enthusiast Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 36 FL	Thanks Noel and Bob for the clarification! I've been using CoolSoft's VirtualMIDISynth for a while as a plugin, can use any SoundFont. One SoundFont that I think sounds great is called FatBoy. https://fatboy.site/ if you're interested, should work fine with VSTSynthFont64. Jerry Jerry 2019 BiaB Megapack (634), RB 2019 (Build 4) Reaper 5.983 x64, Audient id14 USB interface, Voicemeeter Potato 3.0.0.8, Nektar LX49+, Roland E20 i7-6700K Skylake desktop, 64bit Win10 Pro(1903), 32GB ram, 512GB system SSD + 2TB data SSD

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 photodoc #506171 12/03/18 06:42 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 224 uk J joemardo1 Apprentice
joemardo1 Apprentice J Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 224 uk	Originally Posted By: photodoc Looking at that web site link for synthfont.com, I see several different products listed: Version 2.2.0.0 for SynthFont 2 / Synthfont2x64 (paid versions) Version 1.730 for SynthFont1 (free version) Then there is a product Version 3.100 for VSTSynthFont (32 / 64-bit) that is listed as "Not Freeware" Has a 15 day trial, then a 15 Euro fee for a license. That looks like the one included in the new update here? The new features for 2019 BIAB states..... We include a 64-bit GM MIDI synth VSTSynthFont64 with default GM soundfonts, allowing you to specify any GM soundfont even larger ones (up to 2 GB). So, can anyone confirm what is the version supplied by PGmusic? Is there a license or serial number provided, or perhaps not necessary? Thanks! Jerry Yep I tried the version on the download page of that site where it says VSTSynthFont (3.100) - VST instrument Can't really hear any great difference between it and the usually free synth that comes with biab, though with this one you can load sounds into it. Last edited by joemardo1; 12/03/18 06:43 AM. joe

Re: Coyote Forte Dxi and BIAB 64 DrDan #506196 12/03/18 09:01 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,583 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,583 Pensacola, Florida	I believe that the default configuration of VSTSynthfont actually loads the same soundset that the Coyote WS uses (the Microsoft WavTable), so it makes sense you would not hear a difference. Find and load a new GM soundfont and you will definitely hear the difference. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

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