We are currently working on developing these features so that synced playback with the DAW and sending midi to virtual instruments will work as expected. An undo feature is not currently implemented but has also been added to our backlog. Right now we are looking into features that may be broken or causing crashes such as the copy feature in FL Studio but I assure you that these things will all be added/fixed. We appreciate your patience and feedback!
Thank you for responding Adar. This is great news but also what I have come to expect about PGMusic. I figured that you were working on the current problems now and would implement added features later. That is why I didn't make any requests in the wish forum.
Have you ever noticed there are no lines to a bathroom at a water park?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
I respectfully disagree. I am an experienced BiaB, DAW, VST and VSTi user. The BiaB has so many bugs that I can not get it to work in Studio One Pro 4 on my system. Studio One never crashed before BiaB VSTi and now it crashes each and every time I try it. The BiaB VSTi may work for those using RTs but it is useless for those of us working in MIDI. YMMV
I have 2 PC with BIAB plugin VST3 and Studio one 3 pro and 4 pro.The 610 Plugin works perfectly. Real and MIDI. The only difference4 is in the generation time that's very fast on the main PC (see below) and very slow on the other.
Sergino Bandinabox 2024 standard (2020 Audiophile) VST3 plugins on Studio One Pro 6.1 Windows 11(SSD) - AMD Radeon R9 5950X - 32GB RAM MOTU: 2408 MkIII - 24i - Traveler - MIDI Express XT
I respectfully disagree. I am an experienced BiaB, DAW, VST and VSTi user. The BiaB has so many bugs that I can not get it to work in Studio One Pro 4 on my system. Studio One never crashed before BiaB VSTi and now it crashes each and every time I try it. The BiaB VSTi may work for those using RTs but it is useless for those of us working in MIDI. YMMV
I have 2 PC with BIAB plugin VST3 and Studio one 3 pro and 4 pro.The 610 Plugin works perfectly. Real and MIDI. The only difference4 is in the generation time that's very fast on the main PC (see below) and very slow on the other.
Yes some people using Studio One Pro 4 have no problems while others do have problems. Unfortunately I'm in the latter group. Weird isn't it!
Have you ever noticed there are no lines to a bathroom at a water park?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Ok. So sometimes, especially the written word, doesn't come out right. Apologize for that. I'm going to attempt to explain my thinking. If you have been a BIAB user for awhile I guess I made the assumption that you would know that it takes time after the release before Christmas to iron out the bugs.its been this way for ever.Report the issues so they can get fixed. I'm sorry but I love PGM and their products. I f it's felt I'm blindly supporting them you are correct especially when comments are counter productive. I was just trying to gather another piece of data.
John I understand completely, thanks for the clarity we all love PG products. If I sounded hard I apologize as well. We are all appreciative regarding the efforts made, both by the PG team and those that help beta test. Your are dead on about the time it takes to iron out the problems. I clearly remember the tussle to get RD right, and then a year later RTs. I also appreciate your efforts to get data to share with PGM.
However lets be totally honest here, as difficult as it is to create software for the multitude of computers that will use it, these things should be ironed out before it hits the market. 1 patch, maybe 2 but were in 9 patches and its still pretty buggy.
Anyway we are all patiently waiting for the next fix then, continued development of this awesome and enjoyable programs.
John thanks again and I hope you keep on "blindly" supporting and asking question.
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Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2024, Realband, Reaper, Harrison Mixbus 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
If you have been a BIAB user for awhile I guess I made the assumption that you would know that it takes time after the release before Christmas to iron out the bugs.its been this way for ever.
But that doesn't make it right! And that is NOT a success strategy for adding new, younger, customers.
If you have been a BIAB user for awhile I guess I made the assumption that you would know that it takes time after the release before Christmas to iron out the bugs.its been this way for ever.
But that doesn't make it right! And that is NOT a success strategy for adding new, younger, customers.
Ya, I have been around a long time and I can tell you this was a particularly difficult launch. A month in and at the deadline for the sale and still struggling with making things fully functional. Oh well...., it is what it is.
I could see in the Beta it was short of being ready, but what can you do wait another year ? I don't think I could of done that. The fixes are coming fast and regular, Adar is doing a great job as we type ! All the things we need to get it working great are planned. When it's all done it's gonna be Magic ! just hope they keep this momentum up !!!
However lets be totally honest here, as difficult as it is to create software for the multitude of computers that will use it, these things should be ironed out before it hits the market. 1 patch, maybe 2 but were in 9 patches and its still pretty buggy.
However go to the support page and look at the history of the builds throughout the years. Can you honestly say you expected such a MASSIVE update to be perfect right out of the box? This used to bug a friend of mine. No pun intended. He would just wait a month or so to avoid being frustrated. PGM business plan is none of any of our business. Happy New Year
John ya gotta point there old friend. This is a biggie, major upgrade that is a game changer to me.
While I do agree with that I also think it should have been more stable for release, and past history of builds and patches should not dictate future plans, in fact it should teach us valuable lessons. Those who not learn from history are destined to repeat it.
That been said, hey I love this company and what they are creating, and I do believe their core principles are true. You said PGM's business plan is none of any of our business. On that while I partly agree, no business will survive without satisfied and engaged customers. The Motto of "the customer is always right". is timeless, and speaks volumes about how commerce is and should be done, if it is to be done properly.
There is a core if followers here, yourself, myself, and many before and after our entry that will do business with PGM no matter what cause this is something we have done and will do. But there is always a need for new customers due to attrition. for a newbie coming in this is hard enough to learn without the problem of it don't work.
Me personally I would rather have the release now and fight through the builds and patches, but some of the newer folks do not have the long term history, and may get frustrated and not come back. To me that would be tragic in the long run. So if we stifle their voice it could at some date get kinda quiet around here.
Anyway I am going to shut the heck up, and bet the next build is going to be a really good one, and I wanna see what Pipeline said happen, keep the momentum right on into the Mac release later this year. Once the buggies are squashed this thing is going to be really useful.
Go Adar, we are rooting for you, ride um cowboy!!!
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2024, Realband, Reaper, Harrison Mixbus 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
I mentioned this once before (i think), and if it's a fair kind of marketing policy i dunno: ... PG releases new stuff usually in December, at a 40% offering. Then it takes about 2-5 months of aftermath ironing serious bugs and issues out once the going gets tough on all those differing types of windows OS computers, used by both beginners and nerds. Well, compliments to PG as they work hard satisfying every one. In fact buyers are rewarded, and at the 40% it's OK with me; especially with this years upgrade ít all worked quite smoothly after the latest updates/fixes .... Compliments to all those hardworking programmers ...
Maybe because of this Decemberly marketing policy i sometimes get a little annoyed that nothing happens for quite a while f.i. regarding persistent BIAB 2018 minor bugs and fixes, last year after July/August i think. But as always Kent and the rest of the staff were quite helpful and quick on the draw providing assistance.
I have bought expensive software (and hardware) which was all of a sudden abandoned without even being fixed properly. IMO f*ck Digidesign and Logic; they're pure ripoff companies, never no mo. -F
Not being disrespectful to PGmusic, I have been using BIAB since 1992, however, the VST is poorly coded and I am not going to even attempt to use it again until this forum is happy with it. It has caused a lot of havoc and has crashed my brand new machine several times and I mean really crashed the system.
If I was PGmusic, I would feel very uneasy about suggesting that the software is good to go. Anyone who uses their system to make money should avoid the vst. I am using BIAB for creating styles nothing else. If the vst would work then it would save me about 10 minutes each time I create a style. Right now, I have just gone back to using BIAB as a stand-alone. The vst is a waste of time and needs fixing before I ever try it again. BTW, I use Ableton 10 Suite and Komplete Ultimate. Nothing ever crashes, only the BIAB vst. BIAB itself is really stable. The vst is at best a beta test which is damaging PGmusicˋs reputation.
Greetings all. My two cents. I have Mixcraft Pro Studio 8 running on a Windows 10 PC. It's been running great with no issues. I select VST Plugins left and right with no issues. Everything works perfectly.
I just installed BB 2019 with the DAW Plugin. Opened Mixcraft and saw the BB Plugin listed under my VST Plugins. Perfect. I clicked on it and *BANG* Mixcraft froze irrecoverably. Tried it a few times with the same result. Tried rebooting my computer. Same result. Everything else in Mixcraft works just as it should until I try selecting the BB Plugin. Then I am hopelessly frozen until I force close with Task Manager.
The Plugin feature of BB is what prompted my to blow $250 on BB. Should I be considering a return or is there hope on the horizon?
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