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#518413 - 01/17/19 08:47 AM
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5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around
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Why Lyrics Matter!!!!!!!! https://youtu.be/eIjAoGLr09wGary Ewer Watch on You Tube 1. Conversational - common language 2. Balance between narrative and emotion 3. Imaginery 4. Prosody with music 5. Avoid or minimize cliches Couldn't agree more.
Edited by Belladonna (01/17/19 08:57 AM)
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#519841 - 01/23/19 09:02 AM
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Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around
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Thanks for sharing this with us Belladonna! Those are definitely traits that can contribute to the longevity of a song. In my humble opinion, I also think songs that can stick around tend to capture what is happening culturally at the time.
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#520257 - 01/25/19 06:44 AM
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Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around
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I think those are definitely the stepping stones, but on the heels of what Joe has said, timing can make all the difference when it comes to when a song first gets released. This is definitely food for thought.
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#523792 - 02/11/19 12:59 AM
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Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around
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So how do you explain 'A Whiter Shade of Pale'?
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#523819 - 02/11/19 05:35 AM
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Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around
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I believe "Whiter Shade of Pale" has great imaginery and there is some conversation. It was put out by a really popular band who had a following and the music is emotional. It was based on some British story that a lot of people over there had a reference for, so I'm not surprised that it was a big hit.
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#523851 - 02/11/19 08:37 AM
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Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around
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There are certainly exceptions to these rules, but I do think this is a good starting point 
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#523975 - 02/11/19 08:57 PM
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Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around
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But if you look at lists of "Best Ever" songs from almost any era, you're probably looking at a list of songs with the best lyrics. Not to say he hasn't given good songwriting advice, but... citation needed. "Probably?" "I think?"I could just as easily argue what you really need is to use a name in the title, citing "Louie, Louie", "Ave Maria" and "Waltzing Matilda". 
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