Cool thing Will, You've a LOT going on in the bottom end so need to EQ carve some space for each low end part &/OR do some High Pass filtering. the kick drum and bass are overlapping so need work. The cymbals are prominent and need some EQ to reduce them. Finally the toms seem unnaturally forward in the quieter sections. The drums will be quite hard to manage as they're just a stereo file BUT it can be done. First step - to manage those frequncies would be to switch to mono for monitoring - that'll give you a clearer picture of stomping and the need for EQ. When the orchestra comes in it's an entirely other bag as it's very busy with added low end. I think the mids need some mud reduction in the full sections but the top end seems cool. DEFINITELY do your EQing in mono before switching back to check in they stereo panned version.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
I really, really like this track! But why the title? :-) In any case, I find it great. I'm no technical guru (not even an apprentice, haha), so I can't comment on the technical aspects of production, etc. (I read through rayc's comments and couldn't understand a word, haha!!!), but you have something excellent on your hands here from the standpoint of what you have created, I think.
Nice job Will! Lots of interesting sounds in this! You might try a version without the drum track (maybe just some orchestral percussion) just to see how it sounds! Thanks, Torrey
Will, nice twisty composition. Unusual progression and lots of cool sounds. Initially the large brass (Tuba?)came in, I thought that is a sound of departing ship I think it would interesting to find departing ship sound and put it in unison with large brass you are using to finish the tune (very end) I am not strong on mixing at all, but to my ear, I would lower hats and bring guitar more forward slightly.
Quite interesting... Unusual chord changes... Pleasant transitions to the chosen sound montage including percussion... It sounds you had fun with this piece... The overall tonalities & timbres sound pleasant to my ears... A very cinematic piece of music... Enjoyed it.
Cool thing Will, You've a LOT going on in the bottom end so need to EQ carve some space for each low end part &/OR do some High Pass filtering. the kick drum and bass are overlapping so need work. The cymbals are prominent and need some EQ to reduce them. Finally the toms seem unnaturally forward in the quieter sections. The drums will be quite hard to manage as they're just a stereo file BUT it can be done. First step - to manage those frequncies would be to switch to mono for monitoring - that'll give you a clearer picture of stomping and the need for EQ. When the orchestra comes in it's an entirely other bag as it's very busy with added low end. I think the mids need some mud reduction in the full sections but the top end seems cool. DEFINITELY do your EQing in mono before switching back to check in they stereo panned version.
Hi rayc,
Thanks a LOT for taking time to listen and for giving me such good advice!
I am a novice in working with those huge orchestras - and I got a lot to learn about how the different instruments are dominating certain frequencies etc. What you have written is very helpful.
I agree with you in most things you write, maybe except for the toms, because that was a deliberate choice to put them forward in the mix, but by reading the comments it seems I am rather alone in liking that. So.. point taken!
I hope I will be able to come up with something better next time I play with the "big boys"...
I really, really like this track! But why the title? :-) In any case, I find it great. I'm no technical guru (not even an apprentice, haha), so I can't comment on the technical aspects of production, etc. (I read through rayc's comments and couldn't understand a word, haha!!!), but you have something excellent on your hands here from the standpoint of what you have created, I think.
Very kind of you! Thanks a lot.
I think the idea was ok, but I probably should have used a lot more time on mixing, before I published it. I am learning every day...
Nice job Will! Lots of interesting sounds in this! You might try a version without the drum track (maybe just some orchestral percussion) just to see how it sounds! Thanks, Torrey
Thanks a lot, Torrey!
Yes, I was thinking about that, but I was trying to combine BiaB with other instruments... not with much success, but I am learning by reading all of your kind comments!
. Initially the large brass (Tuba?)came in, I thought that is a sound of departing ship I think it would interesting to find departing ship sound and put it in unison with large brass you are using to finish the tune (very end)
That is a fun idea, Misha! Thanks for listening!
I am one of many Europeans who are really sad that UK will abandon us. I wanted to express a bit of unease in the track, because that is how I feel about Brexit.
I am praying for a new vote, because I have met so many English people during the last two years, who told me that they just voted for Brexit for fun and that they would vote differently now.
Quite interesting... Unusual chord changes... Pleasant transitions to the chosen sound montage including percussion... It sounds you had fun with this piece... The overall tonalities & timbres sound pleasant to my ears... A very cinematic piece of music... Enjoyed it.
Thanks a lot for your nice comments, Jim! I am glad that you liked it. I think I can do better and will strive to do so next time.
I am one of many Europeans who are really sad that UK will abandon us. I wanted to express a bit of unease in the track, because that is how I feel about Brexit.
You accomplished that as there is a bit of unease in the composition that is counterintuitively somewhat mesmerizing. Producing and or mixing a project like this is way beyond my experience so I'll leave the mix comments to those more familiar with such.
It obviously took a lot of thought regarding the arrangement and I'm sure the mix was time consuming. It also has a cinematic feel that would well fit a "tense" section in the right film.
Really beautiful chord progression and The Orchestra really makes it shine, it is a great tool to create cinematic landscapes, I have used it on couple of my songs, but I wish to use it on more to get more practice. I like the dynamic change from the simple guitar driven part to the orchestrated part and vice versa. Basically the mix sound good in my ears, maybe I would put the guitar more forward in the orchestra sections.
Quite interesting... Unusual chord changes... Pleasant transitions to the chosen sound montage including percussion... It sounds you had fun with this piece... The overall tonalities & timbres sound pleasant to my ears... A very cinematic piece of music... Enjoyed it.
Thanks a lot for your nice comments, Jim! I am glad that you liked it. I think I can do better and will strive to do so next time.
Thank you for listening! Will
Don't sell yourself short... Out of all the songwriters, you seem to be the one who is always pushing the envelope... Musically experimenting & giving me ideas to try... I invariably look forward to hearing your work.
The combination of instruments is very interesting, especially the combination of orchestral instruments. I agree with Janne. Really beautiful chord progression and the orchestra really makes it shine. However, I think that it will become a wonderful piece even if there is a core melody. Enjoyed my listen a lot.
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