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#536148 - 05/09/19 02:08 PM
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Hey All, I have a problem. With Real Band 2019 I cannot use registered Ik Multimedia plugins without getting white noise as if they were in demo (unregistered) mode though I have no problem in Cakewalk. From 2014 on through 2018, I found a work around: insert an IK Multimedia plugin on an empty track and it "tricked" something (but I don't know what) so that white noise did not occur. Why this worked I have no idea. I called IK Multimedia and they said "Never heard of Real Band. Have no idea. What's that? Sorry. Can't help you there buddy! Tried Pro Tools?" Now, in 2019, no trick works. The plugins are not being viewed as registered IK Multimedia plugins in Real Band. Support doesn't seem to know why and the question has been referred to programming. I won't spend days on this since I have Cakewalk, but just thought I would ask if anyone has had the same issue, and I was overlooking something obvious. The plugins are 64 bit, and I have J bridge, though I assume J bridge is just ignored if you don't need it. Thanks for any insights! 
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#536159 - 05/09/19 02:42 PM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: David Snyder]
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So just to be clear, the noise you are talking about is a short burst of static that consistently happens every 10 seconds or so, and it doesn't affect timing? What is a VST plugin that it happens with and what is the version of the plugin displayed in the plugin's user interface?
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#536200 - 05/09/19 06:32 PM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: Andrew - PG Music]
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Andrew,
Yes, burst of static. It is a 64 bit of the earlier IK stuff which is VST. I am not sure if Real Band supports VST3 but it would not recognize anything in a VST3 folder, only VST, that is why I tried this.
See screenshot.
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#536223 - 05/10/19 03:09 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: David Snyder]
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Have you tried to select the new Windows Audio Drivers?
I remember I had to do that to solve some white noise issues, in recording
Edited by stratos (05/10/19 03:11 AM)
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#536254 - 05/10/19 08:55 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: stratos]
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Hey Stratos,
No I am not installing any new drivers because everything is working perfectly with everything else and I don't want to tempt fate.
All works fine in Cakewalk. I use RB to generate tracks mostly so it is not life and death.
The only thing I have EVER had a problem with in Real Band is IK Multimedia plugins and have never had any issues with other DAWs.
Cakewalk scans for VSTs, and if you open a nonregistered VST it will tell you so. In Real Band, there is no scanning, there is a manual "add." It does not indicate that the VST is in trial mode, but if you mix down you get white noise. Only with IK Multimedia and only in Real Band. Been an issue since 2014 for me though I could find a workaround with a blank track insert until now.
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#536267 - 05/10/19 11:08 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: David Snyder]
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One more question, does it happen in Band-in-a-Box (64-bit)? (With the same plugin)
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#536272 - 05/10/19 11:50 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
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Andrew,
VERY interesting. Does not happen with BIAB.
Huh.
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#536324 - 05/10/19 08:54 PM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: David Snyder]
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All my old IK stuff is good.
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#536352 - 05/11/19 07:16 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: David Snyder]
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You need to get Amplitube 4 then all your plugs show IK plugs show there then you have to use jbridge.
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#536353 - 05/11/19 07:18 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
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#536366 - 05/11/19 09:15 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
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John,
I do have Amplitube 4 and all works perfectly in Cakewalk, and as Andrew's test showed, they work in BIAB with no white noise, just Real Band is the only issue. It has always been a problem with Real Band, nothing else.
Also, I guess Real Band does not recognize VST3, because when I click "edit VSTi" and go to folders, it will recognize a .dll but not a VST3.
Thanks!
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#536425 - 05/11/19 06:37 PM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: David Snyder]
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David,
VST3's are 64 bit and will not work with RealBand since it is a 32 bit application.
I've read that VST3's do not work with jBridge but I've never confirmed that statement and do not know of a reason why it they should not.
I did read however that some host applications that can work with 64 bit VSTs do not accept VST3s.
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#536473 - 05/12/19 02:55 PM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
[Re: David Snyder]
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If nothing else, this discussion helped me solve a similar issue I was having with BIAB pulling in a demo version of a VSTi I was trying to use. Turns out I had both the demo and the paid version dlls in my plugin folder.
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#536643 - 05/14/19 07:16 AM
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Re: Real Band Makes White Noise with Registered VSTs
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