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#537025 - 05/16/19 09:15 PM [Форум пользователей Band-in-a-Box на русском языке] edit in piano roll
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neal7567 Offline
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Hello! Can you tell me, please, may i edit the parts of real instruments in the piano roll? Or something different? Thanks!

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#537101 - 05/17/19 11:06 AM [Форум пользователей Band-in-a-Box на русском языке] Re: edit in piano roll [Re: neal7567]
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Mikhail Offline
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Hello,

RealTracks parts are not editable. You only can edit corresponding MIDI SuperTracks parts.

Best regards,

Michael
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#537108 - 05/17/19 11:39 AM [Форум пользователей Band-in-a-Box на русском языке] Re: edit in piano roll [Re: Mikhail]
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I'd like to expand on this a bit (perhaps Mikhail can translate),

RealTracks cannot be edited in the same way that MIDI tracks can be. With MIDI, you can open the Notation window and edit any of the individual notes (change the pitch etc.). If you don't regenerate the arrangement (i.e. the track is frozen) or if you are editing the Melody or Soloist track then when you play it back it will play the new notes. This is because with MIDI data, Band-in-a-Box is sending the MIDI event data to a synthesizer that generates the audio and plays the notes.

A track with RealTracks on the other hand is audio (wave) data that is assembled from actual audio recordings of musicians. You may still be able to SEE the notes in the notation window (or Piano roll), but you can't change them. You can see them because some RealTracks have "RealCharts", which means that the performances have been manually transcribed as MIDI so that the notation can be displayed.

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve (what types of edits you want to do), but there are a couple things you can do. It is best to do this in a DAW (e.g. RealBand which ships with Band-in-a-Box), or another DAW using the Band-in-a-Box plugin if you have version 2019. RealBand (and also the DAW plugin) has a "multi-riffs" feature which allows you to regenerate a specified region of a track, and choose from several different generations. You can save your song (.SGU) and open it with RealBand. This is handy if you mostly like the generated part, but there are a few bars that don't sound good.

There are also ways you can edit the audio waveform data to some extent, for example copying/deleting certain sections. You can even change the pitch with some DAWs, but you can't necessarily edit individual note pitches unless it was a truly monophonic recording (one note at a time).
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#537119 - 05/17/19 01:05 PM [Форум пользователей Band-in-a-Box на русском языке] Re: edit in piano roll [Re: neal7567]
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Mikhail Offline
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Перевод сообщения Эндрю:

"Я бы хотел немоного развернуть эту тему.

RealTracks нельзя отредактировать таким же образом, каким можно редактировать MIDI-дорожки.
В случае MIDI Вы можете открыть окно нотации и отредактировать любую отдельную ноту (изменить ее высоту и др.). Если Вы не будете генерировать дорожку заново (т.е., дорожка заморожена), либо если Вы редактируете дорожку мелодии или солиста, то при воспроизведении Вы услышите отредактированные ноты. Это возможно благодаря тому, что при использовании MIDI-данных Band-in-a-Box посылает данные о MIDI-событиях на синтезатор, который генерирует аудио и восрпоизводит ноты.

Дорожка с RealTracks, с другой стороны, представляет собой аудиоданные (wav), которые формируются из реальных аудиозаписей игры музыкантов. Вы по-прежнему можете ВИДЕТЬ ноты в окне нотации (или клавишного редактора), но Вы не можете изменять их. Видеть их Вы можете потому, что у некоторых RealTracks имеется нотация "RealCharts", что означает, что исполнение было вручную транскрибировано в MIDI, с тем чтобы можно было отобразить нотацию.

Я не знаю, чего Вы хотите добиться в результате (какие исправления Вы хотите внести), но кое-что сделать можно. Лучше всего делать это в DAW, н-р, в RealBand, поставляемом в комплекте с Band-in-a-Box, либо в другой DAW, поддерживающей модуль Band-in-a-Box (если вы используете версию 2019). RealBand (а также моджуль DAW) поддерживают "мульти-риффы", что позволяет Вам произвести несколько повторных генераций определенной области дорожки и выбрать наиболее удачный вариант.
Вы можете сохранить Вашу композицию (.SGU) и открыть ее в RealBand. Это может оказаться полезным, если Вам в принципе нравится сгенерированная партия, но в ней есть несколько тактов, которые звучат недостаточно хорошо.

Существует также несколько способов, позволяющих Вам до определенной степени изменять имеющиеся аудиоданные, например, копирование/удаление определенных секций. С помощью некоторых DAW Вы даже можете изменять высоту тона, но высоту тона отдельных нот Вы сможете отредактировать только в в том случае, если они были записаны в монофоническом режиме (по одной ноте за раз).
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#537149 - 05/17/19 07:22 PM [Форум пользователей Band-in-a-Box на русском языке] Re: edit in piano roll [Re: neal7567]
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neal7567 Offline
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Thank you very much! Спасибо большое, что просветили!

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