You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#169253 - 08/06/12 11:56 PM [RealBand] Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand?
Registered: 04/13/08
Posts: 25
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
JRGariano Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 04/13/08
Posts: 25
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
I've become quite familiar with using RealBand. I like being able to add real track and band in the box tracks to accompany myself singing. However, I'm not that great of a singer and I would like to try out some auto-tune software to make my voice sound better.

Is there auto-tune software out there that works well with RealBand? I will sometimes have multiple vocal tracks in a .SEQ file, with one track capturing a particular verse of the song. I would like to be able to apply the auto-tuning to the entire set of vocal tracks, to cover the entire song.

Any suggestions on what software to purchase (or if the feature is already part of RealBand)?

Thanks,
Joe

Top
#169254 - 08/07/12 12:43 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: JRGariano]
Registered: 08/13/11
Posts: 1827
solidrock Offline
Expert

Registered: 08/13/11
Posts: 1827

Top
#169255 - 08/07/12 10:46 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: solidrock]
Registered: 04/13/08
Posts: 25
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
JRGariano Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 04/13/08
Posts: 25
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
Thanks, that picture was helpful. I tracked down a free pitch correction pluggin called GSnap, pointed to the DLL in the RealBand VST configuration window shown in your picture, and was able to get it to work.

Top
#169256 - 08/07/12 11:16 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: solidrock]
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3255
Loc: Sacramento, California
dcuny Offline
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3255
Loc: Sacramento, California
GSnap is a free pitch-correction VST. I'm away from my computer, so I can't say if it works with RealBand.
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#169257 - 08/07/12 11:34 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: dcuny]
Registered: 04/13/08
Posts: 25
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
JRGariano Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 04/13/08
Posts: 25
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
GSnap does work with RealBand... I used it last night.

Top
#169258 - 08/07/12 06:54 PM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: JRGariano]
Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 19541
Loc: Marysville, Mi. USA
rharv Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 19541
Loc: Marysville, Mi. USA
Now set all the vocal tracks to a subgroup that tunes the vocals and adds any other effects, and one VST set can be on all tracks.
You could also use the AUX slots, but only with a few routing defaults changed.

That covers the 'supply it to all vocal tracks' part using just one instance of the tuner. Instead of on every track.
_________________________
Make your sound your own!

Top
#537893 - 05/23/19 03:44 PM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: JRGariano]
Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Warren Keller Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Hey Solidrock, Antares just told me that their 'Access' won't work. Do you know if one of their newer ones will work with RB? Jgariano, I couldn't get Gsnap to do much- seemed to go from nothing to some correction with artifacts? Thanks guys!


Edited by Warren Keller (05/23/19 03:46 PM)
_________________________
Best, Warren

Warren A. Keller- Woodwindist, Writer, Singer

"I have my ship and all her flags are a-flyin'
She is all that I have left and music is her name"

Top
#537921 - 05/23/19 06:19 PM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: Warren Keller]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5659
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5659
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Warren,

It will be difficult to find a real time vocal processor. Antares made multiple hardware processing units but has abandoned hardware manufacturing. The Antares software products are AAX and VST3 plug-ins. RealBand does not support either plug-in format.

My suggestion is to search online (forums, music stores, Craiglist and eBay) for a used Antares hardware vocal processor.

As an aside, SolidRock was last on the forum Sun Dec 06 2015 at 02:58 PM.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2020 UltraPlusPak BiaB(709) RealBand(Build 1)
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Audacity - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
i7 Desktop, 64bit Win 10 build 1909, 12 GB ram
256 GB M2 SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#537966 - 05/24/19 04:36 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Warren Keller Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Hey Jim, Forgive my ignorance here- so until RB would support VST3 (if ever?), it's a no go. When you speak of real-time hardware, are we meaning a unit between the mic and the audio interface that would pitch correct at the time of recording? Thanks! I do have a TC Helicon VoiceLive Play with this feature, though I believe it has limited controls.
_________________________
Best, Warren

Warren A. Keller- Woodwindist, Writer, Singer

"I have my ship and all her flags are a-flyin'
She is all that I have left and music is her name"

Top
#538013 - 05/24/19 10:50 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: Warren Keller]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5659
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5659
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Hi Warren,

TC Helicon vocal products are exactly what I meant. I would think your TC Helicon VoiceLive Play would be more than sufficient to meet your pitch correction needs while playing live. Personally I doubt if you can find anything better than what you already have. You likely have what you need but need to dig a little deeper and become more familiar with the equipment and what it has to offer.

I don't have a VoiceLive Play and don't play in front of an audience so I can't imagine what controls you find limited. Is it just with pitch correction or with some of the additional features you haven't mentioned? If you're main concern is pitch correction do you find all the other features the TC Helicon VoiceLive offers get in the way of using the tool the way you envision?

Assuming pitch correction is the primary feature you're wanting, you may find the TC Helicon +++ Mic Mechanic Stomp Box +++ easier to carry around and use.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2020 UltraPlusPak BiaB(709) RealBand(Build 1)
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Audacity - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
i7 Desktop, 64bit Win 10 build 1909, 12 GB ram
256 GB M2 SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#538125 - 05/25/19 09:41 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: JRGariano]
Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Warren Keller Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Hey Jim, Now of course, my post was aimed at recording only, so I'd love to haev a working plugin with RB that's up to the task, but the TCH VLP is a wonderful pedal with lots of great effects for my saxes/flute and it does also offer soft and hard-tune. Thanks!
_________________________
Best, Warren

Warren A. Keller- Woodwindist, Writer, Singer

"I have my ship and all her flags are a-flyin'
She is all that I have left and music is her name"

Top
#538126 - 05/25/19 09:43 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: JRGariano]
Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Warren Keller Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 07/13/17
Posts: 165
Loc: West Virginia
Solidrock, etc., Do we know what it was about the Antares Evo that DID work with RB, that's different from their new ones that don't- VST3? Thanks!
_________________________
Best, Warren

Warren A. Keller- Woodwindist, Writer, Singer

"I have my ship and all her flags are a-flyin'
She is all that I have left and music is her name"

Top
#538140 - 05/25/19 12:39 PM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: Warren Keller]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5659
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 5659
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Hi Warren,

As you guessed, the newer stuff is available only as a VST3 which does not work with RealBand. The Aspire EVO is available as both VST2 and VST3 as well as 32 or 64 bit. RealBand requires 32 bit.

This quote is from the Anteres webpage for the EVO plugin:
Quote:
Quite simply, ASPIRE EVO analyzes a vocal in real time and separates the aspiration noise (breathiness) component from the harmonic content. It then allows you to either increase or decrease the amount of aspiration noise, as well as letting you affect the character of the aspiration noise by applying a parametric EQ to the noise component.
+++ HERE +++ is a link to the Antares Evo webpage.

The initial plugin download is 64 bit but a 32 bit version is available for a $7.99 additional cost. The plugin is available as a VST2 so the 32 bit, VST2 version should work with RealBand.

Aspire EVO requires ilok copyright protection. So you'll either have to purchase an ilok dongle and lose use of a USB port to the ilok dongle or you'll have to install additional ilok software to manage your ilok protected applications.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2020 UltraPlusPak BiaB(709) RealBand(Build 1)
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Audacity - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
i7 Desktop, 64bit Win 10 build 1909, 12 GB ram
256 GB M2 SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#538225 - 05/26/19 12:26 AM [RealBand] Re: Auto-Tune Software that works with RealBand? [Re: Warren Keller]
Registered: 02/05/15
Posts: 4385
Pipeline Offline
Veteran

Registered: 02/05/15
Posts: 4385
I just downloaded this https://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Plugins/Auto-Tune-Evo.shtml installed it on WinXP and it loaded into the 32bit VSTHost.
It gives you so many trial days.

You can also use ReaTune in Reaper combined with ReaTrak it will import the tracks and chords from RealBand, Biab or the BiabVst Plugin running in Reaper. Reaper has themes to give whatever mixing board you like.
Or you can send the audio from the Realband track to Reaper with ReaStreamVST in RealBand using the ReaTune plugin in Reaper.
You should be able to send the output back to a RealBand track using ReaStream also.

(Video) How to Stream Biab Tracks to Your DAW Win/Mac for Heavy Plugins
_________________________
ReaTrak Integrate Biab & Plugin in Reaper
Free Biab & BiabVST Chord Picker Tool

Top


PG Music News
User Tip - Create harmony Using the TC Helicon in RealBand 2020

Interested in creating harmonies using RealBand and the TC Helicon? Check out this forum post, where program user Noel96 shares information on his technique!

Have a tip of your own to share? Feel free to post it to our Tips & Tricks forum!

Thanks for sharing, Noel96!

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows & VST DAW Plugin Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows users!!! The latest FREE patch (build 713) and DAW Plugin Update 2.4.5 is available - learn more and download here.

Summary of changes for build 713:
Fixed: Rendered audio files might be silent if mono and 24 bit are selected.
Fixed: Possible crash when rendering to audio at 48.0kHz or 96.0kHz sample rate.
Improved: Better support for localized versions.
Fixed: Importing audio files that were 96 kHz sampling rate would fail.
Fixed: The [More Info...] button in the Artist Browser dialog would launch the wrong web page.
Fixed: Importing an ABCNotation file would not include the key signature.
Fixed: ABC files only opening some chords.
Fixed: Problem storing minor keys.(ampersand).
Fixed: A few artists not displaying properly in Artist Browsers.
Improved: RealDrums Picker information for the 2020 RealDrums has been updated/improved.
Fixed: Some of the RealDrums from the 2020 release did not have drum groove names.
Improved: All of the 2020 MIDI SuperTracks now have memos.
Fixed: Some RealTracks were listed under the incorrect Set# in the RealTracks Picker.
Fixed: _Gentle style from Xtra PAK 4 had an acoustic guitar set to Held mode.
Fixed: Some ska style demos had drum drop outs.
Fixed: Rendered files were not being normalized.
Fixed: Pressing spacebar in the Notation window might launch a web browser instead of starting playback.
Fixed: Practice window | Master Solos | Blues Piano, displays N/A.
Fixed: MusicXML files created by Band-in-a-Box cannot be loaded by Band-in-a-Box if song title contains & (ampersand).
Fixed: Japanese lyrics are garbage text when saving to MusicXML.
Fixed: Various animations (eg. Guitar window notes) would freeze during playback if using MME drivers.
Fixed: With some computers, distorted audio when soloing a track.
Fixed: Changing a custom track label had no option to Undo, and did not prompt user to save song.
Updated: Manual/Help [routine updates]
Fixed: When re-saving a song that has an audio track, the audio track was not copied.
Fixed: Dropping a song file onto Band-in-a-Box did not set the current directory.
Fixed: The RealTracks picker window should remember its location when reopening.
Fixed: The Piano Roll window was opening at the wrong bar location.
Improved: Better quality audio resampling when rendering audio to higher sample rates.
Fixed: Resampler quality setting in ASIO drivers dialog was ignored.
Fixed: Using WAS audio drivers with 24 bit & 48kHz output rate might result in noise.

Summary of Changes for DAW Plugin Update 2.4.5 (Jan 21 2020)
Fixed: Opening Band-in-a-Box song files (.sgu) would fail if the file names and/or paths contained any European language characters (eg. à,è).
Fixed: Message if bbw4 has no valid handle
Fixed: Mute and sync buttons not working properly
Fixed: Clicking cancel would lag before cancelling
Fixed: Right-click anywhere on track for context menu
Fixed: Increase maximum chord sheet font size
Added: Double click track name to launch picker of currently selected track
Added: Flashing GENERATE button to notify if song needs to be regenerated
Added: Mute and sync buttons to track context menu
Added: Right-click chord opens bar settings menu at that bar
Added: Error code for bbw4 related error messages
Fixed: Plugin asking to save when booting the plugin and selecting File/Open
Fixed: Crash when running vst3 plugin in reaper
Fixed: Scroll bar margins when resizing plugin
Fixed: Bar settings not saving
Fixed: Time Base, and Natural Arrangement not saving settings
Fixed: Calling bbw4 when already open will bring windows to front
Fixed: Tool tips in Preferences Dialog
Fixed: Time signature should be set from DAW when first opened
Fixed: Set "..." colours for truncated chords to black
Fixed: Selected track in table should be more obvious
Fixed: Click YES to Save dialog and then cancel will reset save state to true
Added: Right click for track table context menu
Added: Medley/Multi (thickening) feature

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows on a USB 3.0 Hard Drive - Speed Thrills!

Did you know... all Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows UltraPAK and UltraPAK+ orders ship preinstalled on a USB 3.0 hard drive!

What does this mean? Faster hard drive transfer rates will enhance the program operations (faster time to generate tracks, reduced audio artifacts) and offer faster transfer speeds (typically up to 3x faster)!

Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK $469
Upgrade from Version 2019: $279
Upgrade from Version 2018 or earlier or crossgrade: $299

Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK+ $569
Upgrade from Version 2019: $379
Upgrade from Version 2018 or earlier or crossgrade: $399

Note: The difference between the UltraPAK and the UltraPAK+ is that the Songs & Lessons PAK is included in the UltraPAK+ package.

Our Band-in-a-Box® Audiophile Edition ships preinstalled on a USB 3.0 hard drive too!
Band-in-a-Box® Audiophile Edition $669
Upgrade from Version 2019: $479
Upgrade from Version 2018 or earlier or crossgrade: $499
Upgrade from ANY previous Audiophile Edition: $299

We're at The NAMM Show!

Heading to The NAMM Show? Make sure you stop by Booth 1015 (Hall E) - we'll be doing product demonstrations every hour, with some RealTracks Artists popping in for performances with Band-in-a-Box too!

Click here for more information about The NAMM Show, held in Anaheim California at the Anaheim Convention Center.

It's Almost Over - Order by January 15th to SAVE on Xtra Styles PAKs & Loops-with-Style PAK 1!

NEW products for Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac: Xtra Styles PAK 8 and Loops-with-Style PAK 1!

--SPECIAL PRICING ONLY AVAILABLE UNTIL JANUARY 15TH!--

We've added 164 fantastic new RealStyles in Xtra Styles PAK 8! These are imaginative new combinations of our existing RealTracks library that fall into four categories: Rock/Pop 8, Jazz 8, Country 8, and Celtic 1. To celebrate the release of Xtra Styles PAK 8, ALL of our Xtra Styles PAKs 1-8 are on sale for just $29 each! Learn more & listen to demos here.

Also brand-new is our Loops-with-Style PAK 1 for Band-in-a-Box®, which gives you the chance to expand your loops collection with 100 new loops! We've taken the RealDrums and RealTracks source audio and remixed, remastered, and combined it to create these original loops. All of your favorite genres are covered like jazz, funk, rock, pop, electronic, hip-hop, and more! To show them in action, we've created 50 new RealStyles that each include two of the loops. Plus, if you use the loops in Band-in-a-Box, we've included intelligent versions of the loops that automatically switch at A and B part markers. Each loop has a matching sister loop that works perfectly for another substyle! Get started with Loops-with-Style PAK 1 for the introductory price of just $19 until January 15th (reg: $29). Learn more & watch a great video demonstration here.

Note: Xtra Styles PAK 8 and Loops-with-Style PAK 1 require the Band-in-a-Box® 2019 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Windows User? Choose from these links: Xtra Styles PAKs | Loops-with-Style PAK 1

Built-in Audio Chord Wizard Enhancements in Band-in-a-Box® 2020!

Our Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows version includes some great enhancements to the Built-in Audio Chord Wizard!

-The built-in Audio Chord Wizard is now accessible from the [Audio Chord Wizard] button.
-The Audio Edit window now displays chords and tempos for each bar. They are shown when the Audio Chord Wizard mode is active so that you can see the tempo for each bar as you set the bar lines.
-When you start entering bar lines, the program automatically sets the tempo to the tempo of the first bar.
-Once the tempo of the first bar is set, the program automatically moves the location of the first bar of audio over so that the visual space of the count-in bars is visible.
-After you’ve added the bar lines, IF you adjust the first or second bar and the tempo of the first bar changes accordingly, the program automatically changes the tempo of the song to match.
-Multi-window display. This gives the Audio Chord Wizard a multi-window view so that you can see and edit both the Audio Edit window and the Chords Sheet at the same time. This display is best viewed with a small toolbar mode. This allows you to see the chords as they are being interpreted by the wizard.
-The Audio Chord Wizard can send the transcribed MIDI notes to the Soloist track for further analysis by the user (via Piano Roll or Notation window). Note that this is a "snapshot" view every 8th note of the pitches present, not an attempt at polyphonic transcription. To use this feature, enable the "MIDI to Soloist" check box.

Read more about these enhancements here, or jump to the New Feature - Audio Chord Wizard (ACW) Enhancements section of our New Features video here.

The Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows® Special ENDS January 15th!!!

IT'S YOUR LAST WEEKEND TO SAVE UP TO 50% ON YOUR BAND-IN-A-BOX® UPGRADE!

Our SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Upgrade purchases ends January 15, 2020, so there is still some time to save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows Upgrade!

Customers LOVE Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows with over 50 new features, plus the 202 New RealTracks, new RealStyles, 15 new MIDI SuperTracks, 170 new Instrumental Studies, 30 new MIDI Styles, 280 RealDrums Transcriptions, the 2020 Free Bonus PAK, 2020 49-PAK, and new Xtra Styles PAK 8!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2020 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 40 Unreleased RealTracks) upgrade it to the 2020 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows at: www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Forum Stats
31019 Members
63 Forums
62073 Topics
524588 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
Dariusz, John D', peeps, Stormin, mgrde

31018 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Noel96 256
VideoTrack 163
MarioD 157
Matt Finley 138
Pipeline 133
Jim 126
Janice & Bud 111
Masi 108
dcuny 108
rayc 108
Today's Birthdays
JasonOne, Passion4Blue