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I've become quite familiar with using RealBand. I like being able to add real track and band in the box tracks to accompany myself singing. However, I'm not that great of a singer and I would like to try out some auto-tune software to make my voice sound better.

Is there auto-tune software out there that works well with RealBand? I will sometimes have multiple vocal tracks in a .SEQ file, with one track capturing a particular verse of the song. I would like to be able to apply the auto-tuning to the entire set of vocal tracks, to cover the entire song.

Any suggestions on what software to purchase (or if the feature is already part of RealBand)?

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Thanks, that picture was helpful. I tracked down a free pitch correction pluggin called GSnap, pointed to the DLL in the RealBand VST configuration window shown in your picture, and was able to get it to work.

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GSnap is a free pitch-correction VST. I'm away from my computer, so I can't say if it works with RealBand.


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Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?
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GSnap does work with RealBand... I used it last night.

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Now set all the vocal tracks to a subgroup that tunes the vocals and adds any other effects, and one VST set can be on all tracks.
You could also use the AUX slots, but only with a few routing defaults changed.

That covers the 'supply it to all vocal tracks' part using just one instance of the tuner. Instead of on every track.


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Hey Solidrock, Antares just told me that their 'Access' won't work. Do you know if one of their newer ones will work with RB? Jgariano, I couldn't get Gsnap to do much- seemed to go from nothing to some correction with artifacts? Thanks guys!

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Warren,

It will be difficult to find a real time vocal processor. Antares made multiple hardware processing units but has abandoned hardware manufacturing. The Antares software products are AAX and VST3 plug-ins. RealBand does not support either plug-in format.

My suggestion is to search online (forums, music stores, Craiglist and eBay) for a used Antares hardware vocal processor.

As an aside, SolidRock was last on the forum Sun Dec 06 2015 at 02:58 PM.


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Hey Jim, Forgive my ignorance here- so until RB would support VST3 (if ever?), it's a no go. When you speak of real-time hardware, are we meaning a unit between the mic and the audio interface that would pitch correct at the time of recording? Thanks! I do have a TC Helicon VoiceLive Play with this feature, though I believe it has limited controls.


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Hi Warren,

TC Helicon vocal products are exactly what I meant. I would think your TC Helicon VoiceLive Play would be more than sufficient to meet your pitch correction needs while playing live. Personally I doubt if you can find anything better than what you already have. You likely have what you need but need to dig a little deeper and become more familiar with the equipment and what it has to offer.

I don't have a VoiceLive Play and don't play in front of an audience so I can't imagine what controls you find limited. Is it just with pitch correction or with some of the additional features you haven't mentioned? If you're main concern is pitch correction do you find all the other features the TC Helicon VoiceLive offers get in the way of using the tool the way you envision?

Assuming pitch correction is the primary feature you're wanting, you may find the TC Helicon +++ Mic Mechanic Stomp Box +++ easier to carry around and use.


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Hey Jim, Now of course, my post was aimed at recording only, so I'd love to haev a working plugin with RB that's up to the task, but the TCH VLP is a wonderful pedal with lots of great effects for my saxes/flute and it does also offer soft and hard-tune. Thanks!


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Solidrock, etc., Do we know what it was about the Antares Evo that DID work with RB, that's different from their new ones that don't- VST3? Thanks!


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Hi Warren,

As you guessed, the newer stuff is available only as a VST3 which does not work with RealBand. The Aspire EVO is available as both VST2 and VST3 as well as 32 or 64 bit. RealBand requires 32 bit.

This quote is from the Anteres webpage for the EVO plugin:
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Quite simply, ASPIRE EVO analyzes a vocal in real time and separates the aspiration noise (breathiness) component from the harmonic content. It then allows you to either increase or decrease the amount of aspiration noise, as well as letting you affect the character of the aspiration noise by applying a parametric EQ to the noise component.
+++ HERE +++ is a link to the Antares Evo webpage.

The initial plugin download is 64 bit but a 32 bit version is available for a $7.99 additional cost. The plugin is available as a VST2 so the 32 bit, VST2 version should work with RealBand.

Aspire EVO requires ilok copyright protection. So you'll either have to purchase an ilok dongle and lose use of a USB port to the ilok dongle or you'll have to install additional ilok software to manage your ilok protected applications.


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I just downloaded this https://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Plugins/Auto-Tune-Evo.shtml installed it on WinXP and it loaded into the 32bit VSTHost.
It gives you so many trial days.

You can also use ReaTune in Reaper combined with ReaTrak it will import the tracks and chords from RealBand, Biab or the BiabVst Plugin running in Reaper. Reaper has themes to give whatever mixing board you like.
Or you can send the audio from the Realband track to Reaper with ReaStreamVST in RealBand using the ReaTune plugin in Reaper.
You should be able to send the output back to a RealBand track using ReaStream also.

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I opened GSnap in RB, but didn't work:
Below the Main & info button is empty ?
( should appear triple lines+ play+ fast play forward/backward + enable+close + aplly buttons)

can anyone help me?

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Your issue maybe a graphics setting. Try changing your display setting to a different resolution.

Another possibility is Gsnap maybe a 32 bit plugin while RealBand is 64 bit. I visited the Gsnap website +++ GVST +++. The developer does not state if his plugins are 32 or 64 bit. That leads me to believe the plugins are 32 bit.


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Dear Jim,
thank you very much for your quick reply.
I have a maximum display resolution of 1366x768 and by lowering this , didn't solve the issue.
For downloading GSnap I used another link : GVST.co.uk/downloads.htm, beside other effects, click on GSnap ( pitch correction) and from hereon you are able to choose 32 or 64 bit
( I choose 64 bit for my windows 64 bit, but didn't work ; I tried also 32 bit, but software refuses to work at all )
I also send an email to the maker of GSnap and waiting for reply

thanks again for your hints and time
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Jay,

Thanks for the update. By-the-way, nice website. I like your song about the rooster!

You might want to consider the +++ Waves Tune +++ vocal pitch correction plugin. It is on sale at the moment for $35.99.


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Dear Jim,

i could make GSnap work first, by selecting the area on the vocal track and secondly selecting GSnap from the effects list
Without the buttons under the main and info , a new pop-up menu appears
titled: DirectX Non-Real-Time processing with Preview ,Stop ,Cancel and Process buttons
With the settings on the GSnap you can listen with preview how it will sound like and if oke, press process and the "Snap" will be done.

Thank you again for the reply: problem solved.
By the way, Racy Old Rooster took me about 30 years to write, with the afterlife just 2 years ago: glad you like it.
I now try to do as much as possible on my own ( no money, no honey)
That's why BIAB + Realband + vocal recording + mixing +mastering: I started in march, but still much to go

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Glad you got it sorted out.

If GSnap is using an older version of Direct X that is not on your computer, Microsoft has a +++ download webpage +++ that installs older versions of Direct X without removing any Direct X installers your computer does have.


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