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#540290 - 06/10/19 06:31 AM [Beginners Forum] Long head, shorter choruses, end w/ long head - possible?
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Hi,

I'm aiming to lay out a song which is a 12-bar blues form, but with extra measures for the head of the tune which are then dropped during the choruses.

I realize I can "through compose" that by typing in (or cutting and pasting) chorus after chorus etc., but what I would like to know is if there is a way to use the existing "structural" settings of BIAB to accomplish that w/o going down that road.

Conceptually, the layout is as per the attached picture, which represents once thru the head.

The idea is to play the full head once, then play the first repeat (12-bar form) many, many times, then end the tune by playing the full head again.

Can this be done using the existing verses/choruses/repeats/tags/whatever options now available?


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#540338 - 06/10/19 09:42 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Long head, shorter choruses, end w/ long head - possible? [Re: sj1]
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Try using the letter k where you want to copy. For example, at 23 type k and see what happens. Will that work for you?

...Deb

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#540341 - 06/10/19 09:50 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Long head, shorter choruses, end w/ long head - possible? [Re: sj1]
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Yes. The ways to structure a song are almost endless. Try this video, and if it doesn't help, ask again. I don't know myself how to do all of that.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537100&page=1
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#540351 - 06/10/19 10:45 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Long head, shorter choruses, end w/ long head - possible? [Re: sj1]
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Originally Posted By: sj1
I'm aiming to lay out a song which is a 12-bar blues form, but with extra measures for the head of the tune which are then dropped during the choruses.
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The idea is to play the full head once, then play the first repeat (12-bar form) many, many times, then end the tune by playing the full head again.

I'm not sure if this will do what you want:
1) Type the head (think of this as an Intro)
2) Type the 12 bar chorus immediately following the head
3) Type the head again as a tag ending.
4) Use song settings to set the jump to the tag.
5) Set the song start and end bars and number of required repeats.

In a nutshell: Presuming an 8 bar head, 12 bars repeated 3 times for the chorus, and an 8 bar ending (head repeat), you could setup the song like this:


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#540430 - 06/11/19 05:36 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Long head, shorter choruses, end w/ long head - possible? [Re: sj1]
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Do you even need the tag - why not just fall through after the last repeat.
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#540441 - 06/11/19 06:46 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Long head, shorter choruses, end w/ long head - possible? [Re: Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Dave
Do you even need the tag - why not just fall through after the last repeat.

Yes, same thing, only done differently
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