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#541031 - 06/14/19 06:22 PM
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I loaded a RB file today and the volume shot up and went all the way into the red on the volume control making loud strange weird noise while the file was loading. then the volume did go back down but kept a continuous -21db noise showing. I have no idea what the noise is. BIAB works fine. Reaper works fine. No extraneous noise showing in either. Both play fine. What would cause this? There was no fx, no mic or instruments hooked up and nothing different in the file from the last time I used it when it was working okay. It did all of this just from opening/loading the file while it was filling in the tracks.
I use win 10 64bit and my RB is last year's with the last update before the new 2019 version came out.
Any ideas what may caused this? Thank you.
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#541033 - 06/14/19 06:29 PM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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I would be looking at audio settings. Windows 10 seems to like changing audio settings, especially after an update. Typically you want your audio settings to be 44.1Khz and 16 bit.
I forgot to add, check both the Windows and RealBand audio settings.
Edited by Jim Fogle (06/14/19 06:31 PM)
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#541038 - 06/14/19 07:26 PM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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Thank you Jim! I'll check that in the morning.
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#541123 - 06/15/19 09:52 AM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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Okay, Instead of 16bit, I changed RB to 24bit and ASIO instead of MME and so far so good.
If I remember right I think I had changed to MME so I could hear the RTs before rendering and some other glitches I was having a while back. I remember the WAS driver didn't work well for me. Bottom line, Win 10 is no longer giving me the option of 16bit 44100 for my Emu. The lowest I can go is 16/88000. So 24/44100 is my only choice without getting into really high resampling rates. I'm not computer savvy enough to try rolling back win 10 updates so I hope it works out in the long run.
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#541136 - 06/15/19 12:04 PM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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Me again.  With the new settings (see above post) I can't audition Real Tracks or Real Drums in Realband because I cannot hear them. Even the windows media player little window won't play. However, in BIAB I can audition all the RTs, RDs, just fine. The only thing I've come up with is to audition the tracks in BIAB and then export them to RB or write down the track numbers and generate them in RB. Way more of a hassle but should work. I go through a LOT of tracks to build my songs and even though I do most of my editing in Reaper some is still done in RB and I record vocals in RB because - well I really don't know why - probably because I've always done it that way. I'm thinking writing down the tracks while auditioning in BIAB is my best option unless somebody has a better idea. If I can find a way to just sit down and make music without all these computer glitches it sure will be nice.
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#541189 - 06/15/19 05:40 PM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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For listening and mixing try using MME as the audio setting. MME is a Windows operating system feature that allows multiple audio sources to use the computer sound system.
ASIO has a major limitation, only one program at a time can use the computer sound system. Because of that limitation many people only use the ASIO setting in their recording program while recording. The benefit of ASIO is low latency (the time between when a note is played versus when the note is heard). Low latency only matters when you're recording.
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#541195 - 06/15/19 07:04 PM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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Thanks Jim, unfortunately MME was what RB was set on when all this began.
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#541284 - 06/16/19 04:40 PM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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Josie,
What are your current Windows and RealBand audio settings? Are you listening through an audio interface or the computer's default Windows audio?
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#541377 - 06/17/19 07:29 AM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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Josie, are you using the 64 bit or the 32 bit BiaB? I'm just wondering if the difference you are experiencing might be that you are using the 64 bit BiaB and the 32 bit RB.
{edit} have you checked for the latest drivers for your EMU?
Edited by MarioD (06/17/19 07:30 AM)
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#541507 - 06/18/19 12:38 AM
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Re: Unknown continuous noise only in RB
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Thanks for your help guys. I'm gonna stick with my workaround so far so good. Windows 10 update switched something and my Emu drivers are old and finicky but I'm keeping it until it absolutely won't work with win 10 because it has great specs that these days are only found on more high end interfaces which cost alot more.
Mario I have 2018 version.
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Fixed: Possible crash if editing a text layer while using the floating Notation Window.
Fixed: "There is no audio file currently recorded" error message when using Audio > Plugin.
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Fixed: [Video] > Render Video(s)... menu item should launch the Make Chordsheet Video dialog if Video RealTracks export is not available.
Fixed: When choosing a compressed format for rendering files, and "One file per track" is enabled, the resulting files are .wav format instead of the compressed format.
Fixed: Dragging a single track to export MIDI causes that track to be permanently soloed.
Fixed: The About dialog said 'for Macintosh' instead of 'for Windows'.
Fixed: StylePicker: User Category list wasn't refreshing after choosing a new user category.
Changed: Default the 'include similar styles in the stylepicker' to false each bootup.
Fixed: melodists were getting quantized incorrectly.
Fixed: Rebuilding styles list was causing errors sometimes.
Fixed: Clicking OK in the MIDI/Audio Driver Setup dialog should not close the floating Mixer window.
Fixed: Applying audio effects using Audio > Plugins would fail with error "Plugin cancelled. Original file is preserved".
Fixed: Audio will not import to a custom position if there is already audio on the Audio track.
Fixed: Audio > Edit Audio > Timeshift Audio would crash the program if the Audio Edit window was not open.
Fixed: Close button in Select chorus start/end dialog should behave like Cancel, ie user clicking on bar afterwards shouldn't do anything.
Fixed: Wrong notes on Oohs and Aahs RealTracks.
Summary of changes for Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin 1.16.29:
Fixed: bounds when highlighting in chord sheet
Fixed: make selected cell at the end after pasting
Fixed: some styles not dragging all tracks from blue button
Fixed: losing focus in chord sheet
Fixed: plugin stops playing non-synced tracks when closing and then opening plugin
Fixed: track text not resizing correctly
Fixed: C#7b5b9b13 to chord sheet
Fixed: Audio stutters when resizing plugin in some DAWs
Fixed: auto gen after open feature not working in Studio One 4
Fixed: Open dialog in infinite loop
Fixed: Alert window buttons "punch hole" when pressed
Fixed: distortion when stopping playback in pro tools
Fixed: Verify folders before each call to Biab
Fixed: Send space bar keystrokes to DAW
Fixed: Added message if attempting to drag tracks before generating
Fixed: Transpose not working
Added: shift-arrows to select in chord sheet
Added: SHIFT-TAB to go backwards in chord sheet, TAB to go forward
Added: SHIFT-ENTER to go backwards in chord sheet
Added: copy selected cell if nothing highlighted
Added: support for all Biab file types
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