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#544024 - 07/04/19 04:16 AM [RealBand] how do i select a hi Q patch in RB?
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can see how to do it in BIAB but how do I get the choice of HiQ patches in RB?

i have a midi track and want a better sounding patch

i can load the sforzando as a vst but how do i then get the list of instruments available? or am i going about it the wrong way?

treid reading the manual but not found it


Edited by Bob Calver (07/04/19 04:17 AM)

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#544025 - 07/04/19 04:25 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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ok opened the patch select dialogue a different way by double clicking and got the Hi Q option but all that happens is the BIAB yellow box appears top right and the playback is silent although I can see activity on the output meters.

the hi q patches are tgs files - why don't they laod when i select them?

as usual its something simple i know...........

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#544026 - 07/04/19 04:30 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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Sforzando has a Band in a Box folder when I open it. Not sure if that's something I did or it did it somehow when I installed it.

But...
You should be able to navigate to the folder and access the sounds that way.

On my system, the path is:

OS(C) > Program Files > PG Music Inc > Band-in-a-Box Sounds > Programs


There are folders for Bass, Drums, Guitar, Piano, Strings, Synth, Woodwind and World. These folders match my selections when I open the Band-in-a-Box Folder from Sforzando. The folder contains WAV and corresponding SFZ files.


Hope this helps.


Edited by Charlie Fogle (07/04/19 04:32 AM)
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#544027 - 07/04/19 04:54 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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before i do that - but thanks Charlie - choosing a Hi q patch seems to load ok from the dialogue I get double clicking the patch dialogue but the output port on the mixer changes to S1 which I can't find anywhere on the right hand side of the mixer

the output meters show output but there's no sound - any idea of where it's going? the edirol hypercanvas shows as the default synth but RB seems to be loading the sforzando somewhere it just doesn't show up on the vst dialogue and the S1 port is going somewhere where its not sounding

and the patch description doesn't change in the tracks window

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#544030 - 07/04/19 05:14 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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ok got the sound by installing sforzando as the first plug in leaving the default synth as edirol. then loaded the tgs file as charlie suggested

but it seems over-complicated when there is an option to chooose a hi q patch from double clicking the patch dialogue. either the patch dialogue route doesn't work or i'm doing something worng. so although i've got sound i won't mark the trhead as resolved in case anyone has any extra advice

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#544781 - 07/09/19 06:18 PM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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RB is a full blown DAW. Your problem is not setting the output ports. You can have 16 separate synths, one for up to 16 individual tracks or use one synth for 2 or 3 tracks another for however many other tracks, etc. If you just want to use one synth there is a box in the track window you click to make all tracks use the same synth.

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#545788 - 07/17/19 10:54 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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how do i find the S1 output port and direct the signal to it? there is no S1 on the mixer

help appreciated
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#545799 - 07/17/19 12:33 PM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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I can't get it to work either. I get a yellow message box that it's trying to use Sample Tank. I never have used it before and don't find how to set it up in the manual.
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#545813 - 07/17/19 05:09 PM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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Could S1 be the DXi Synth port #1 in the MIDI Ports?
It may be a matter of directing the track to the correct Port via right-click options.
You have 16 softsynth (DXi) port options available (these work for VSTi synths also, don't let the label confuse you).
Assign a given track to a different Port and it will use whatever synth is assigned to that Port.




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#545838 - 07/18/19 01:03 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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if i choose specific vst/dxi for track i can load sforzando and the sound works but i still have to load a tgs file to get a high q instrument

just choosing sforzando in the drop down menu gives me a silent output on S1

haven't tried to load an instrument from another source yet

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#545854 - 07/18/19 05:04 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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If I load sfz to a track I don't get sound. If I open sfz and choose a patch I get sound. If I try to load a hq patch I get a yellow box that gives the path to sampletank. The hq patch doesn't load. I have all the patches in bb/dxi settings.
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#546058 - 07/20/19 05:55 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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so its not just me? maybe PG Support can clarify the simple easy one click method!

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#546085 - 07/20/19 10:14 AM [RealBand] Re: how do i select a hi Q patch in RB? [Re: Bob Calver]
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Nope.
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