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#544477 - 07/07/19 08:24 AM [RealBand] finding and using new Hi Q patches
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a couple of all midi songs sound better with hi q patches than the default GM sounds of my edirol hypercanvas.

but the choice i've got is limited. where can i find new ones (preferably free but modest cost is ok if i can audition them) and how do i use them.

do i load the sforzando plug in and then navigate to the downloaded file? or do i need another vst?

the high q sounds i've got with BIAB and RB are tgs fies. what form do the downloaded instruments come i and do they load the same way?

i'm particularly interested in acoustic guitar patches


Edited by Bob Calver (07/07/19 08:25 AM)

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#544486 - 07/07/19 11:24 AM [RealBand] Re: finding and using new Hi Q patches [Re: Bob Calver]
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Bob,

I'm not sure where the name, "HI-Q", came from but I believe it is a title PG Music invented to identify PG Music midi sound patches. The title is given to midi patches that PG Music has developed in house.

Over time, PG Music has included several free to own midi sound modules to playback HI-Q midi patches including 1K MultiMedia's SampleTank Free, 1K Multimedia's SampleTank 2.5, Plogue's Sforzando and SynthFont64. The 1K Multimedia midi sound modules use tgs files to define a midi patch. Both Sforzando and Synthfont can playback multiple definition files, however, Sforzando natively uses sfz 2.0 definition files while Synthfont natively uses sf2.

So there are two answers to your question of where can you obtain additional HI-Q midi patches:

1) Request PG Music create additional HI-Q midi patches in the +++ Styles and RealTracks Wishlist +++ forum section.

2) Create your own. Both Sforzando and Synthfont give a user the ability to create midi patches from audio files. The patches can be as simple or complex as you desire. More information is available at +++ Sforzando +++ and +++ Synthfont.com +++

Last, both the Sforzando and Synthfont websites have links to free midi patches created by users or third parties. You can also search the internet for SFZ or SF2 files but use a virus scan and be cautious of any files you download.
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#544492 - 07/07/19 12:17 PM [RealBand] Re: finding and using new Hi Q patches [Re: Bob Calver]
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#544557 - 07/08/19 01:35 AM [RealBand] Re: finding and using new Hi Q patches [Re: Bob Calver]
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thanks Mario - a fun afternoon ahead trying things out!

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#544604 - 07/08/19 07:52 AM [RealBand] Re: finding and using new Hi Q patches [Re: Bob Calver]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
thanks Mario - a fun afternoon ahead trying things out!


Let us know if you find the sounds you are looking for.
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#544653 - 07/08/19 05:13 PM [RealBand] Re: finding and using new Hi Q patches [Re: Bob Calver]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver


the high q sounds i've got with BIAB and RB are tgs fies. what form do the downloaded instruments come i and do they load the same way?

FWIW .tgs files are pretty much PGMusic exclusive.
They are 'Trans-Group Settings' if I recall correctly and instruct PGMusic products how to load certain FX/Synth settings, so I doubt you'll find those on the web. They also work for loading a set of FX with presets when (sometimes) other methods seem problematic.

As a tip; if you do get new 'Hi-Q' sounds elsewhere and want to use them in PGMusic products, I suggest once you get them loaded and working, Save them as Group Settings in the DXi/VSTi window .. it seems to help PGMusic products recall the settings as they do then get saved as .tgs files again, so you can then use Load Group to recall them.
Just a thought


Edited by rharv (07/08/19 05:14 PM)
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