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#544195 - 07/05/19 09:11 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: An idea to fix the dreaded "255 bar limit" [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I think I just renamed it MGX > MGU or SGU to open in the plugin, if it has a midi melody track just drag that in the DAW from Biab.

I found the answer to my question at the following links.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=314077&site_id=1

https://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq23.htm#85

The reason I can't save my BiaB file as an SGU or MGU file is that my song has an entire midi file on the melody track. This was created when I imported my XML file into BiaB. Because I don't use this track, I can just delete it so that I can create the right file type to work with in the plugin.
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#548797 - 08/09/19 10:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: An idea to fix the dreaded "255 bar limit" [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
You can do the same with 2 instances of the plugin in Tracktion.
You would need to import the xml to Biab and save as SGU then in the plugin open the SGU.

Pipeline, I finally had a chance to try this out with a new song I've been working on that unexpectedly ended up having more than 255 bars, so I thought I'd follow up on this thread and tell you about it.

Before I saved each section of my song from within BiaB (after I had split the song in to two sections in MuseScore and exported each section in its own XML file that I had imported into BiaB), I had changed the Bar settings at various places in each section of the song in order to turn individual instruments on and off so that my arrangement would be more interesting than just a standard "generic" arrangement. But when I opened each section of my XML file in the BiaB plugin that I had installed in Tracktion, these settings were no longer intact, and there was no way for me to restore them because this feature was not included in the plugin. So, I gave up on this idea and just exported a WAV file for each section of my song from BiaB and then imported those WAV files into Traction where I pieced them together into one continuous song. This preserved my Bar settings that I had created in BiaB for my custom arrangement.

However, in another post, you had mentioned opening two instances of BiaB in order to import a different section of a song into each instance of BiaB. I assume you're suggesting that I run two copies of BiaB side by side so that I can use each copy to work on a different section of my song that normally would exceed 255 bars if it wasn't split into two sections. If my assumption is correct, then this would be a better workaround to the 255 bar limit in BiaB than taking the song into RB because the Bar settings in RB doesn't seem to work the same as it does in BiaB. This only applies, of course, to custom arrangements in which certain instruments are turned on and off at different places in the song. For standard "generic" arrangements, it would be more efficient to use RB. Unless I'm missing something, this is the conclusion I've come to in the last couple of weeks.
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#548801 - 08/09/19 11:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: An idea to fix the dreaded "255 bar limit" [Re: muzikluver]
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Yes you can run more than one instance of Biab (set the in Preferences).
You can also run multiple plugins to give way more more variations than Biab Guide: Using Multiple Biab Plugins
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