You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#553764 - 09/08/19 09:00 PM [RealBand] Can't change MIDI patch
Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
Funkifized Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
So, I've entered chords with the style that I want, pretty much all Real Tracks. I've added a couple of MIDI tracks to step-enter a Melody, a couple of bass notes in particular spots in place of the Real Track notes, etc. Sounds good so far. I'm trying to add some horn parts that I arranged previously. I saved the trumpet part from my Finale score as a singular MIDI file. I've imported it successfully into my Real Band song. However, it comes as a piano part. I keep trying to change the MIDI sound to trumpet, and it says 57: Trumpet in Track View, but the sound is still piano. Why can't I change this to a trumpet sound?


Attachments
Post attachments only available when logged in


Edited by Funkifized (09/08/19 09:15 PM)
_________________________
Band-In-A-Box for Windows
Version 2019 (644)
64 bit application
RealBand 2019 (5)
Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
16.0 GB (15.4 GB usable)

Top
#553775 - 09/09/19 12:35 AM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 12/20/16
Posts: 908
Loc: Gold Coast, Queensland, Austra...
Teunis Offline
Expert

Registered: 12/20/16
Posts: 908
Loc: Gold Coast, Queensland, Austra...
I know little of RealBand but I would think you’d need to click on the FX button and ensure you have a Trumpet selected as the MIDI instrument.

Tony
_________________________
HP i7-4770 16GB 512G SSD, Win 10 Home,
Roland Quad Capture, Launchkey 61, Maton CW80, Telecaster + more
BB 2020(713) RB 2020(2), CakeWalk by BandLab, Reaper 6, Audacity, Melodyne 5 Editor, Izotope Music Production Suite 3 + more

Top
#553788 - 09/09/19 02:08 AM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 03/21/17
Posts: 732
Loc: Eilat, Israel
DeaconBlues09 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 03/21/17
Posts: 732
Loc: Eilat, Israel
Originally Posted By: Funkifized
So, I've entered chords with the style that I want, pretty much all Real Tracks. I've added a couple of MIDI tracks to step-enter a Melody, a couple of bass notes in particular spots in place of the Real Track notes, etc. Sounds good so far. I'm trying to add some horn parts that I arranged previously. I saved the trumpet part from my Finale score as a singular MIDI file. I've imported it successfully into my Real Band song. However, it comes as a piano part. I keep trying to change the MIDI sound to trumpet, and it says 57: Trumpet in Track View, but the sound is still piano. Why can't I change this to a trumpet sound?


Step 1: Port over to Reaper.

Step 2: Do whatever you damn well please.

Step 3: Rejoice!
_________________________
Band-in-a-Box 2019 PlusPAK w 2019 Bonus Pak. Custom Build Desktop PC W/ Windows 10 Home 64-bit. CPU: Intel Core i5-9600k @ 3.7GHz (6 core x 6 threads) RAM: 16GB DDR4. Storage 238GB SSD + 2.7 TB HDD. GPU: ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB

Top
#553801 - 09/09/19 05:03 AM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 12/10/15
Posts: 977
Loc: Cornwall UK
Mike Head Offline
Expert

Registered: 12/10/15
Posts: 977
Loc: Cornwall UK
HI

I see from your pic that you are using the Microsoft midi sounds.
Make sure you do not have a tick in reroute midi to vst/dxi in midi settings .

I suspect at the moment you are re routing to a non GM midi vst/dxi.

The other way if you want to reroute to a vst/dxi choose coyote wave table as your default dxi.
and put the tick in the reroute box
Mike
_________________________
BIAB2019,UltraPlus, Asus N55S,W10/64,Akai EIEpro,
Yamaha Clavinova CVP405,CoolsoftVirt,MidiSynth
Novatation Impulse61 Ctr kbd,Cakewalk blab,Kontakt

http://mikesmusic.byethost16.com/

Top
#553832 - 09/09/19 09:54 AM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: DeaconBlues09]
Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 7463
Loc: Redondo Beach, Ca.
jazzmammal Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 7463
Loc: Redondo Beach, Ca.
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09

Step 1: Port over to Reaper.

Step 2: Do whatever you damn well please.

Step 3: Rejoice!


Dude. This is ridiculous. A comment like this implies that Real Band is just a total POS which is NOT TRUE. I used RB last year to record an entire album for my sister using 3 or 4 softsynths AT THE SAME TIME on different tracks for different sounds just like you can do with any other DAW. This also implies you do completely understand RB, have worked with it a lot and THEN decided to use Reaper which would be legit.

Why don't you answer the question for him? He obviously doesn't understand how softsynths work in general, not just with RB. He would have the same issue with Reaper.

Don't worry Funkfized, we'll get you sorted out, I just had to respond to this stupid post first.

Go to Help>Contents>Basics. Then read and understand Driver Setup then read and understand Setup and Configuration. If that doesn't answer your questions, reply back and we'll figure it out.

Bob
_________________________
Biab/RB latest build, Win 10 64 bit, Intel 4770, 256 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Top
#553848 - 09/09/19 12:05 PM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 5358
Loc: Carmel New York
Rob Helms Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 5358
Loc: Carmel New York
Not to pile on DBlue, but I notice that mentality from many Reaper users (disclaimer: this is not a knock on REAPER) it seems to be an environment where folks feel a lot of connection. That can be good, still the following tends to be almost rabid. I own reaper but actually found it to be far to much work. I also have mixed entire projects in RB and found it very powerful. It really boils down to what work flow you like.

I do have to mention it never seems to be very cool or maybe not very wise to beat up on a product in favor of a competitor on that products forum. It kinda sets you up for a good old fashioned electronic tongue lashing.
_________________________
Lenovo Win 10 8 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2020, Realband, Studio one 4.6 Pro, Logic Pro X, Melodyne 4 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus Faderport 8, Komplete 49 key controller.

Top
#553855 - 09/09/19 02:35 PM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Mike Head]
Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
Funkifized Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
Originally Posted By: Mike Head
HI

I see from your pic that you are using the Microsoft midi sounds.
Make sure you do not have a tick in reroute midi to vst/dxi in midi settings .

I suspect at the moment you are re routing to a non GM midi vst/dxi.

The other way if you want to reroute to a vst/dxi choose coyote wave table as your default dxi.
and put the tick in the reroute box
Mike


Thanks, but I don't know how to do those things.
_________________________
Band-In-A-Box for Windows
Version 2019 (644)
64 bit application
RealBand 2019 (5)
Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
16.0 GB (15.4 GB usable)

Top
#553858 - 09/09/19 02:43 PM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: jazzmammal]
Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
Funkifized Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal

Go to Help>Contents>Basics. Then read and understand Driver Setup then read and understand Setup and Configuration. If that doesn't answer your questions, reply back and we'll figure it out.

Bob


I'm not getting what is wrong. I did the bass MIDI track step entry and it works fine(only a few notes for a band stop that wouldn't be covered by the Real Track). When I try to define a trumpet part, and step enter the notes, the MIDI track sounds clearly like piano, not trumpet.

Oh, but wait. I didn't step enter the notes of the trumpet part; they were imported from a MIDI file. I created the MIDI file in Finale. Is there something in that imported file that is making it impossible to change the MIDI patch?

Another edit: the bass step-entry notes are now piano sound, too. I can't win.


Edited by Funkifized (09/09/19 03:10 PM)
_________________________
Band-In-A-Box for Windows
Version 2019 (644)
64 bit application
RealBand 2019 (5)
Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
16.0 GB (15.4 GB usable)

Top
#553915 - 09/09/19 05:50 PM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 19950
Loc: Mi., USA
rharv Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 19950
Loc: Mi., USA
Go to the E icon (Event List) in RB.
Enter a patch change message (or Program Change) for the sound you want. It will be a MIDI patch number for the sound you want on the synth you are using.
This 'Forces' the track to send the MIDI info to the correct sound for the synth you chose. Enter it at the beginning of the song (1-1-0 for time).

Sounds like all Finale imported MIDI is using patch number 1 (piano usually), and possibly the same MIDI channel, since the bass and trumpets assume the same sound.
Making RB correct this may be your ticket to joy.

You may find all the imported MIDI from Finale is on the same MIDI channel (again check the Event List to verify).
If this is the case you may need to go the extra mile and Rechannel the MIDI track(s).
In other words, if you send a message on the Bass track and again on the Trumpet track, and they are on the same MIDI channel, they will over rule each other (with the last message being what is heard).
So sending this data on separate MIDI channels is important (say Basss on MIDI channel 2 and Trumpets on MIDI channel 12 for instance), that way they don't get conflicting messages.

MIDI is an art in itself. Understanding it, and how imported files may affect it can be important.

Hope that helps more than confuses.



Edited by rharv (09/09/19 05:52 PM)
_________________________
Make your sound your own!

Top
#553937 - 09/09/19 07:48 PM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: rharv]
Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
Funkifized Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 175
Loc: Lowell, MA
Okay, so I went into the Event list for both tracks, put in the patch change on different channels for each of the two tracks. That worked. However, both tracks seem to be playing a 16th note late. They show up in the Notation Window as being on the beat, as well as in the Track Window, but now they play after the beat. How does that work?


Edited by Funkifized (09/09/19 07:50 PM)
_________________________
Band-In-A-Box for Windows
Version 2019 (644)
64 bit application
RealBand 2019 (5)
Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
16.0 GB (15.4 GB usable)

Top
#553986 - 09/10/19 05:38 AM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 8021
Loc: Rio Grande Valley, Texas
silvertones Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 8021
Loc: Rio Grande Valley, Texas
I personally think there is too much of the look I have Reaper, I have finale, I have band in the box, I have real band, I have this program, I have that program, and I need to use them all in order to make a proper CD. That is pure crap. Real Band can do everything that any of the others can do.


Edited by silvertones (09/10/19 05:40 AM)
_________________________
John
ESI Gigaport HD+
Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be
15.6" Monitor
"The only Band is a Real Band"
www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Top
#554008 - 09/10/19 07:51 AM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 03/21/17
Posts: 732
Loc: Eilat, Israel
DeaconBlues09 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 03/21/17
Posts: 732
Loc: Eilat, Israel
Mmmkay.

For all the negative flack I drew for touting Reaper over RB, and those saying that "Realband does everything that Reaper can do," "I recorded an entire album on Realband," etc., I'll just jot down a couple dozen things off the top of my head where Reaper thrashes Realband on every level.

1. Folders and sub-folders for your tracks in Reaper that can be collapsed and expanded at will.

2. Multiple routing options in Reaper that you don't have in Realband in terms of sends, receives, pre/post FX, etc.

3. Reaper's dozens of native plugins in just about every damn category you can think of, including multiple forms of visualizers, sequencers, delays, compressors,... I know RB has a handful of effects, but I heavily doubt they've been updated in over a decade.

4. Reapitch. (you can track your vocals (or any monophonic instrumentm for that matter) against a pianoroll-style grid, and visually adjust out of pitch notes.

5. Invert direction of audio snippets for interesting reverse effects.

6. Incredible flexibility and wealth of options in setting your crossfades and their curves.

7. Built in LFO for automating parameter modulation.

8. Assigning colors and/or icons (e.g. microphone, piano, banjo, cello, guitar [acoustic/electric, bass]) to your individual tracks which enables you keep track of everything at a glance.

9. Assigning regions (with titles and colors, if you wish) to various parts of a track which then can be click-dragged into any configuration you please thereby enabling you to reorganize/duplicate an entire track or parts thereof in a matter of seconds.

10. Ripple editing.

11. Track/take/section/selection locking.

12. Applying effects to only portions of a track.

13. Track and item grouping.

15. Click-drag looping of audio, MIDI, and envelope configurations.

16. Highly configurable transient detection utility which you can use to align out-of-time notes to the grid utilizing stretch markers, or to...

17. ...automatically detect and select regions to delete, copy, or apply individual effects to selectively (e.g. delay, compression, multi-band eq.)

18. MIDI input quantize to grid options light-years more advances than Realband's.

19. Same with MIDI quantize to key/scale--there are scripts that can enable you to snap to Hungarian Minor, Japanese hexatonic, or whatever else you can throw at it.

20. Reaper's pianoroll has a zillion more options. You can set your notes at any length you please on the way in (in RB you can get a dotted whole note at most...if you want longer notes than that you have to draw them in yourself because YOU CAN'T MERGE MIDI CELLS LIKE YOU CAN IN REAPER). If you want to see how frustrating this is, try and have a long chord sustain over more than a single measure--like you would if you wanted a long orchestral swell that gradually blooms. The notes will cut off and re-trigger. Not "restating" chords is of no use here. Go ahead. Try and start a project with only a single "C" chord entered. With MIDI it should sustain for as long as you want it to. In RB it does not,

21. In Realband when you use your mousewheel to scroll down or up, it keeps going like a victim of its own inertia. No such problem in Reaper.

22. Realband will simply not enter the damn chords you ask it to! If I enter a fmaj13/A with a held piano MIDI track, I want to see every note in that cluster. Is that so much to ask? Reaper has not such problem.

23. Automation, automation, automation. Using the touch and latch modes, you can instantly create and modify parameters of every single effect, VSTi, or what have you in a matter of seconds. The only envelopes you get in RB are volume, and the most basic MIDI parameters (velocity, aftertouch, etc.)

24. Tempo changes can be plotted along any type of curve you like by simply visually adjusting a slope.

OK, there's 2 dozen right off the top of my head.

BTW, not looking to get into an argument here. I, myself, spent a fair amount of time with RB until I discovered what else was actually out there.

Whatever works for you, works for you. :-)

Best wishes,

DB09


Edited by DeaconBlues09 (09/10/19 09:35 AM)
_________________________
Band-in-a-Box 2019 PlusPAK w 2019 Bonus Pak. Custom Build Desktop PC W/ Windows 10 Home 64-bit. CPU: Intel Core i5-9600k @ 3.7GHz (6 core x 6 threads) RAM: 16GB DDR4. Storage 238GB SSD + 2.7 TB HDD. GPU: ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB

Top
#554070 - 09/10/19 12:42 PM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 5358
Loc: Carmel New York
Rob Helms Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 5358
Loc: Carmel New York
I get what your saying DB, by the way how's the weather in your neck of the woods.

Reaper is a rich program for sure as is Cubase, Studio One, cakewalk, etc. it has far deeper features in many areas than RB. There are some areas where reaper fails in comparison to RB, and those areas are obvious. Track generation features is one that pops out boldly. For basic tracking and project building RB is very powerful. It does fails in automation and such.

I was not trying to argue with you but rather to point out that there is some truth to the fact that Reaper users tend to push Reaper on every forum I have ever been on, as if it is the end all of DAWs. it is a very powerful DAW for sure but not the best. It lags behind in midi compared to Cakewalk and Cubase, Takes, comping and such are a little less intuitive when compared to Studio one, and Cubase. It's routing is highly developed for sure, but to me as I have been a cakewalk user for better than 20 years, and a Studio one user for about 5 now I find it's routing convoluted and confusing. It is highly customizable, but again kind of fiddly, one can spend hours fooling around with stuff that simply works on other programs. Note: I have tinkered with Reaper since version 2 so I do know how to use it.

Again I respect your opinion and knowledge, and would not want to argue. I guess I just over years I have seen Reaper enthusiast shout its praises on Cakewalk's, Studio One's, PGS Music's, N-track Studio's, Multitrackstudio's, Cubase's, you name it. As if everyone should just drop all these other programs and Reaper will solve all their problems and lead them to DAWland bliss. I feel sometimes it is poor form to constantly promote, and suggest people move on to other software right on every other software's forum.

Still if I am being unfair or misrepresenting your view I apologize. To each our own as they say. I hope all is well with you and yours, please never let my views stop you from feeling free to express yours. We learn from each other. I appreciated your list earlier, and hope you can appreciate my views as well. Best wishes
_________________________
Lenovo Win 10 8 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2020, Realband, Studio one 4.6 Pro, Logic Pro X, Melodyne 4 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus Faderport 8, Komplete 49 key controller.

Top
#554103 - 09/10/19 03:59 PM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 19950
Loc: Mi., USA
rharv Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 19950
Loc: Mi., USA
Back to the OP's last question ..
The 16th lag is not normal.
What synth are these 2 tracks using?
It *may* be caused by softsynth latency, but this shouldn't be new (or newly induced) by entering a patch change!
_________________________
Make your sound your own!

Top
#554202 - 09/11/19 06:49 AM [RealBand] Re: Can't change MIDI patch [Re: Funkifized]
Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 8021
Loc: Rio Grande Valley, Texas
silvertones Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 8021
Loc: Rio Grande Valley, Texas
No argument here.
My statement was not accurate. I should have said:
A big % of people usins DAWs no very little about recording and RB has more features then they no how to use. The availability of all these other tools are useless in the hands of amateurs.
No judgement on the OP. He/she can't even figure out how to do a patch change. All those Features aren't features if you cant use them and aren't a pro. They get in the way.
_________________________
John
ESI Gigaport HD+
Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be
15.6" Monitor
"The only Band is a Real Band"
www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Top


PG Music News
Learning with Band-in-a-Box® - Chords & Games

Want to hear what a chord sounds like? Type the chord, then press SHIFT enter. The chord will play as it is entered on to the chord sheet!

You can also familiarize yourself with how different chords sound using the Chord Builder feature of the program, which will audition different chords for you, based on your input.

Want more? Challenge yourself with some ear training with the included Pitch Invasion and Music Replay programs, accessible in the Practice Window!

Pitch Invasion helps to develop perfect pitch as you shoot down "alien" notes invading from above, and Music Replay develops your pitch, rhythm, and melody recognition by replaying what the program plays, in note, rhythm, or melodic modes.

Pitch Invasion & Music Replay can also be accessed within the bb\Songs and Lessons\Ear Training folder for the program.

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Russian for Windows is Here!

Мы хорошо потрудились и добавили в "Band-in-a-Box®" 50 новых функций и изумительную коллекцию нового контента, включая 202 новых стиля RealTracks (что в два раза больше 101 стиля, которые мы часто выпускали в прошлом), новые стили RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, инструментальные этюды (Instrumental Studies), транскрипции для стилей RealDrums и др.!

КУПИТЬ/ОБНОВИТЬ И ЗАГРУЗИТЬ!

Listen to the Band-in-a-Box® User Showcase Radio Today!

You may know about our User Showcase Forum, but have you heard about our Band-in-a-Box® User Showcase Radio?

What a great way to listen to all of the Band-in-a-Box® creations from program users just-like-you! It's as easy as choosing a playlist and pressing play!

Click here to access our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, and don't forget to bookmark your new favorite page!

Review - Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows

Make sure to check out the latest Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows review from Sound-Guy (Dennis) at www.gearslutz.com: click here.

Sound-Guy has been using Band-in-a-Box® for many, many, many, many, many years - and we still managed to surprise him with some great new features! Read his latest review to learn more about his favorite additions for 2020!

"Band-in-a-Box continues to evolve as an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to produce not only new compositions and arrangements, but also perform them with excellent musical “talent”. It also provides educational and training tools for keyboardists and guitarists. It’s easy to use the basic functions, and challenging enough to keep you occupied for years. BIAB provides education, inspiration, a “live” band to aid in practicing, and anything from backing tracks to full performances for recording."
-Sound-Guy, www.gearslutz.com

How I Use Band-in-a-Box® to Create Shots/Chops

Band-in-a-Box® user Henry Clarke creates a lot of great songs with Band-in-a-Box®, and he's shared his steps for creating the shots/chops within his recent song Lonely in a Crowd.

To watch Henry's video, click here.

Have your own program tip to share? Feel free to post it to our Tips & Tricks forum.

#TipTuesday

Uncommon RealTracks Instruments for Band-in-a-Box®

Today is Uncommon Instrument Awareness Day.

Examples of "uncommon instruments" include anything from Spoons to the Wheelharp to the Singing Ringing Tree, and more!
(there's probably more instruments out there that we DON'T know than we DO know)

Although our RealTracks collection doesn't include many 'uncommon instruments', we do offer some pretty unique choices!

On top of the usual varieties we offer for Piano, Guitar, Saxophone, Flute, Clarinet, Bass, Tuba, Trumpet, Trombone, and more - our RealTracks library also offers a nice selection of Shakuhachi and Kalimba - there's even a Koto RealTrack included in Set 212!

Kalimba: RealTracks Set 271
Koto: RealTracks Set 212
Shakuhachi: RealTracks Sets 193 & 212

What's the most surprising RealTrack Instrument that you've come across?

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Portuguese for Windows is Here!

Existem mais de 50 novos recursos no Band-in-a-Box® 2020! Existem aprimoramentos no RealTracks (RealTracks vocais com som mais suave, RealTracks Engrossados, Substitutos de RealTracks e MultiFrases). A maioria dos RealDrums agora possui RealCharts (com notação de bateria precisa). Há um novo navegador de artistas do RealTracks para encontrar informações/biografias/links/listas de RealTracks em todos os artistas. Um novo Navegador de recursos permite que o usuário novo ou "esquecido" encontre e use facilmente a maioria dos recursos/teclas de atalho/documentos em uma única janela. Equalizar Tempoaprimoramentos na Seleção de Músicas, baixo/bateria ou apenas bateria nas introduções automáticas, 3.400 títulos adicionados, aprimoramentos no MusicXML, visualização de guitarra para "Canhotos" e "Estudantes", aprimoramentos de arrastar e soltar, exibição de várias janelas do Interpretador de Acordes de Áudio e muito mais!

COMPRE/ATUALIZE, & BAIXE AGORA!

Forum Stats
32641 Members
68 Forums
65598 Topics
556238 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
CarlosCon, ShaneGuitar, Alidas, Bern5432, dixi6

32640 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
MarioD 144
Janice & Bud 123
VideoTrack 123
Guitarhacker 122
floyd jane 112
Matt Finley 104
Jim Fogle 99
rayc 95
MusicStudent 91
Tano Music 90
Today's Birthdays
DrMusic, Keith from Oz