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#555661 - 09/20/19 09:16 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Pipeline]
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I have had plenty of crashes in BiaB....and Sonar.....and Reaper......and Word.....on different systems at different times. cry

It happens, and it has happened on my 12 core 48gb memory system, it is the nature of the beast IMHO.

Save often, and keep working, the developers MIGHT fix it or not. For me, the software is worth the troubles, and the wait for the fix. grin

An IMHO post...... cool
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#555665 - 09/20/19 09:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: jcspro40]
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Best post in the whole thread. Stuff happens.
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#555668 - 09/20/19 10:44 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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A not so secret secret: Shhhh....IT Happens
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#555672 - 09/20/19 11:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Clever John
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#555779 - 09/21/19 02:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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What about all the users that never got BIAB to crash?

Do we not exist? wink
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#555798 - 09/21/19 06:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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If a software doesn’t crash in the forest do we still not hear it?

How many musicians does it take to crash a software?

A priest, rabbi and a pastor were composing a tune on BiaB.....

A musician and his laptop walk into a bar!

Why did the Cm7aug13thmin chord cross the road?


Disclaimer: none of the above in this post can be construed to make any sense at all, and are neither the current views of the poster or the owners of this website. Furthermore and henceforth shall be considered to be utter and complete nonessential Tom foolery for the express purpose of derailing and highjacking said thread by adding a tiny bit of levity.
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#555809 - 09/21/19 07:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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I'm a newcomer to BIAB, relatively speaking. I first got the program a little over a year ago (when the '18 version for Mac was release, I believe it was May or June). I haven't experienced the bugs, crashes, etc. that some of you seem to have - maybe it's the way I use it, who knows. I've dealt with a lot of buggy software, computers, and OS's over the years, so I understand the frustration when the program doesn't work right - for whatever reasons.

All that said, and in hopes of offering some perspective, I would respectfully submit that maybe taking a step back and remembering what a truly amazing program this is might ease some of the exasperation.

Every day that I use BIAB, I find something remarkable that I didn't know I could do with it. In my application, using it to demo songs, it's been a complete game changer. Several of my peers, songwriters with publishing deals and existing demo budgets, have been so impressed with my results that they've purchased the program as well and are experiencing the same positive experience that I've had. I've also found the customer support to be outstanding - much more responsive, and faster to do so, than the majority of software/tech companies I've dealt with. By way of example, put in a call to Dell tech support and then compare it to PG Music...it's night & day.

Is it perfect? Of course not. I would love to see someone point me to a software program or computer system that is, because I've sure never seen it. My engineer friends who work with ProTools exclusively complain constantly about conflicts with plugins, crashes, etc. Sure, there's lots of little tweaks, additions, & features I'd love to see added that I think would improve BIAB, and yes sometimes I even get a bit put out that it won't accomplish a particular task I want it to. But I also recognize that the issues I would like to see addressed may be specific to me, the genres I work in, and the end results I'm seeking to accomplish. I am truly amazed that in the profession of music, where there is absolutely no such thing as "one size fits all", that this program can have such a broad reach and be so incredibly functional in so very many areas.

I don't mean to be patronizing with this post, because I am fully aware that if I had been using BIAB as long as some of you have, I might have the exact same feelings & disappointments. But honestly, I hope the shine never wears off of it for me, because working in it is such a fun, enjoyable process.


Edited by Roger Brown (09/21/19 07:31 AM)

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#555820 - 09/21/19 09:00 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Great post, Roger. I’ve used BIAB professionally for 25 years. The shine is still there!
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#555860 - 09/21/19 02:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Great post, Roger. I’ve used BIAB professionally for 25 years. The shine is still there!


Roger and Matt,

I started using BIAB in 2006 and the shine is still here for me too. I use BIAB daily and I still marvel at how I enter a chord progression, click on a button and Presto, I've got a backing. Even after 13 years, I find that amazing!

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#556450 - 09/25/19 03:42 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: jazzmammal]
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I watched a few videos today and decided to use a MS tool from their webpage that repairs Win10 without losing any apps or files. It took most of the afternoon and I have it back up and running. BIAB stuttered at startup but I had been using MME so I reset it to WAS and so far it has played all the demo files.

So far, the curser is working correctly here on the forum when I make new paragraphs and the videos on Facebook do not go black for a few seconds when I'm viewing them.

I'll give it a few days testing and see how it goes. Even it the repair process doesn't completely correct it, it certainly has improved the OS.

Thanks for your recommendations.
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#556479 - 09/25/19 06:20 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Charlie, what is the utility, please?
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#556517 - 09/26/19 03:23 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Charlie, what is the utility, please?


Media Creation tool


Here is one of the video tutorials I watched for instructions.

How to Reinstall Windows 10 w/o losing data or apps
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#556527 - 09/26/19 05:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Thanx Charlie!
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#556533 - 09/26/19 06:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Good to know. Thanks.
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#556590 - 09/26/19 12:35 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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I believe that's the same tool Microsoft has you use if you want to make an ISO disc to boot/install windows. They've directed me there in the past when I reimaged my machines.
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#557830 - 10/05/19 12:25 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Dzjang]
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Bass part in midi styles is not correct. For clarity’s sake, I provide some proof, here.

Please note that
I Turned off Natural arrangement: never, even if... Preferences, Arrangement
Bass part: i expressly turned off natural arrangement or embellishment
Overrides: i turned off “simple bass”

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1r7f68j8uiky7d/BASSPARTBRUSH300.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3mia8zswdzmdo30/BRUBECKBALLADBASSPART.pdf?dl=0

As to the choice of chords:
They are provided in the chord builder
13b9 is common
mMaj7 is the Billy Strayhorn chord “par excellence”
m9b5 is the Bill Evans chord
Susb9 is the phrygian chord (read: kenny Wheeler, Branford Marsalis, Brecker)
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#557834 - 10/05/19 02:43 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Dzjang]
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I'll keep looking but this is what I got so far:
vArranger I found out was more basic.
Callisto VSTi I was trying but it only does Major and minor chords
https://www.fananteampro.com/callisto

JMT Orchestrator only works in SONAR and Cubase
http://www.jasminemusic.com/jmt_orch.htm

Onyx Arranger is free I have yet to try it, Manual Download
http://www.jasminemusic.com/onyx.htm
Style Enhancer 4.0 is free also http://www.jasminemusic.com/se40.htm



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