It's happening again today to me, even with the latest build (632).
All the volumes unexpectedly revert to 90 and reverb to 40. I definitely set the levels and then saved and also used save special with patches. Later on, when I opened and played the song all the volumes were back to 90.
Did anybody ever find a resolution to this long term issue?
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I haven't paid attention to this. I've read about it in the past but it has slipped under my radar.
I'll keep my eyes open in future and when/if it happens, I'll see if I can ascertain what's causing the behaviour. (Though if you can't work it out, chances are very slim that I'll be of any use!)
This problem strikes me erratically and infrequently.
But I presume it hasn't been proven to have gone away?
I actually had used your original subject title to create this new thread, only because I had already researched to see if there had been a resolution. Sadly, no.
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It seems likely that this is may not occur during the save or recall of the file. But more to do with some other function you have performed in between saving and reopening the file, that has reset the mixer in some sort of semi frozen state, so that the incoming file may well still have all its settings, but not able to apply them. You would need to close down and then reopen BIAB again and reload the file in a new session to see if the changes are still there. Just a thought.
Mike I'll try to be observant on this worthwhile suggestion, and see if I can track down better. I agree with your theory that it may not be when the file is re-opened, but when it is played that the issue arises.
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Mike, thanks. My gut says No. My empirical side says, like VideoTrack suggests, I need to make notes and be sure.
I can safely say I've experienced this immediately upon opening and playing a file, when I quickly realize the balance is all wrong. Drums, especially - hard to miss at a volume of 90 when I normally have them in the 70s. And I NEVER have any reverb as high as 40 (note that this is relative to the max reverb setting you select elsewhere).
It has not happened in quite a while, perhaps not this year.
So Trevor, you found my original post, hey? I have a dim memory that someone suggested it has to do with the settings about whether a particular style insists on setting its own levels. Further, I think that someone suggested, perhaps even someone from PG Music, that older styles did this but newer ones were changed and did not. And there are those global override checkboxes to consider. Also, in beta testing, I would complain about this problem and the next build would fix it (implying there is a fix, but somehow it isn't permanent). Unfortunately, this whole last paragraph is a blur of trying to remember stuff from many years ago. It's worth reexamining.
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Well, it took a while but after significant experimenting I finally found the cause of the problem and I can repeat it, but only PG Music can solve it.
My view is that it's a bug. Not everyone may agree but I believe 'this is something that the program was never designed to do' and 'was not an advertised feature'.
I have definitely done this, but I think (without evidence, yet) that a mixer reset has occurred without my doing this.
So I believe you found ‘a’ cause and perhaps not ‘the’ only cause. If this can cause a reset of mixer values, other actions might, also. But finding one reproducible instance may be enough of a clue to solve it for good.
Thank you, VideoTrack!.
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My view on this is that if you go back to the MIDI/Audio driver setup screen and click OK BiaB thinks that you have changed the driver settings, thus it will reset everything to its neutral position. If BiaB had not reset everything and you did change the audio drivers if the new audio interface was set louder then the original interface then you could blast your monitors and/or headphones.
At least that is my guess, but maybe it is a bug.
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Yes, I believe your suggestion has substance and is probably what actually happens.
But in my view, checking the status of something quite separate to the mixer volume settings for an existing song, and then pressing OK to close the dialog - without having made any changes - should not reset the volumes of all of the tracks in the mixer (well, without at least giving the user some indication of what would occur).
This issue has been problematic for many users for many years. I think we all could agree that this could be better handled.
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Yes, I believe your suggestion has substance and is probably what actually happens.
But in my view, checking the status of something quite separate to the mixer volume settings for an existing song, and then pressing OK to close the dialog - without having made any changes - should not reset the volumes of all of the tracks in the mixer (well, without at least giving the user some indication of what would occur).
This issue has been problematic for many users for many years. I think we all could agree that this could be better handled.
I completely agree. I was just trying to explain my view of what was happening and not that I was against changing. IIRC this is the only music software that I own that does this.
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I completely agree. I was just trying to explain my view of what was happening and not that I was against changing. IIRC this is the only music software that I own that does this.
Hi Mario, I just re-read my post and it might have looked like I was challenging your suggestion. That certainly was not the case. Apologies. We're both on the same page
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