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#556084 - 09/23/19 06:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Weird problem with selecting tracks for custom MIDI patch [Re: Mike Head]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Head

Or had you given up on the melody track, and inserting on track 5 just to test.

Ha Ha, thanks Mike. No way I ever give up - it's not my nature.

I knew it had worked on the Melody track before so it had to work there again. Tenacity is required.

My screen capture clearly shows the MIDI strings being generated on the Soloist track - but only if Track 5 (regardless of instrument) is not frozen.

Go ahead, try it out.

Cheers,
Trevor


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#556085 - 09/23/19 06:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Weird problem with selecting tracks for custom MIDI patch [Re: VideoTrack]
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So to add to this, IMHO it is not user workflow, it is not intentional program design, it is an unintended "programmatical issue". There, I never used that word. That word bugs me. Whooops...
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#556095 - 09/23/19 07:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Weird problem with selecting tracks for custom MIDI patch [Re: VideoTrack]
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Hi Trevor

Well very odd.
Strangely I can generate on the melody track with track 5 frozen.
But if I then try to generate another custom style on the soloist track it will then not! generate until I unfreeze track 5, then I have to re choose my midi voice as it pays no heed to what I asked for , however after choosing say Choir ahhs every thing works fine and both tracks play.

Bit of a mares nest this one methinks.

PS
Mind you I can see that it may need to regenerate parts of the original arrangement to make room and spaces to introduce the extra instrument part into the arrangement.



Mike


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#556121 - 09/23/19 09:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Weird problem with selecting tracks for custom MIDI patch [Re: Mike Head]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Head
then I have to re choose my midi voice as it pays no heed to what I asked for , however after choosing say Choir ahhs every thing works fine and both tracks play.


Right, this is what I wrote about. Try 3 or 4 more patches/styles. Example, right now change the patch/style to something else. You should see the Choir still playing but it will play the new style you selected. Do it again just to confirm what I found. Here it keeps remembering whatever the last patch was.

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#556123 - 09/23/19 10:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Weird problem with selecting tracks for custom MIDI patch [Re: VideoTrack]
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Ok Bob

If I go back to the track that I inserted a custom style on using Choir ahhs,
And then click on insert custom style again it come up with the last settings in the insert custom style screen, if I change the voice patch say to trumpet, it looks as if it has taken in the mixer but when I play, it reverts back to choir ahhs and so does the mixer display.

However if I just choose a mid voice patch for that track in the normal way it does indeed change, and sticks playing the custom style track with my chosen mid voice.

So I can confirm your findings (I think)
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#556163 - 09/23/19 04:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Weird problem with selecting tracks for custom MIDI patch [Re: Mike Head]
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1:
I can confirm Bob's findings. It seems to remember the previous patch used, not the selected one, and unexpectedly jumps to that when the song is generated.

2:
In my case, I was trying to add a MIDI strings track to either the Melodist or Soloist track. The frozen requirements on Track 5 might be different for a different patch, a MIDI Super track etc. If it helps, the MIDI I chose was the Strings track from the BOSANEW Style. Insertion results may be different for other Styles however, including the frozen status, but that was my finding.

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At present, I have "Auto-Generate Track Labels" disabled, I found it less confusing while trying to sort this problem out. Normally, I would have that enabled.
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