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Today an update to BIAB was announced: An update is available for Band-in-a-Box® Version 2019
Download the Band-in-a-Box 2019 Build 633 update (200 MB) Wonderful, great to see. But, with each update comes the obligatory statement: This is a cumulative update. VST DAW Plugin update to 1.14.2 (April 16) is included. I take this language to mean that there has been no change to the VST DAW Plugin since April 16. I feel like a lone voice crying in the night, but it sure would be nice to see more love shown to the VST DAW Plugin. Certainly there is room for improvement, even if minor adjustments to increase the functionality and workflow friendliness. Am I alone on this?? Can I get an AMEN?
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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AMEN brother !
Adar has been working on the Mac version with new features added and bugs fixed so they should all be transferred to the Win version soon.
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Today an update to BIAB was announced: An update is available for Band-in-a-Box® Version 2019
Download the Band-in-a-Box 2019 Build 633 update (200 MB) Wonderful, great to see. But, with each update comes the obligatory statement: This is a cumulative update. VST DAW Plugin update to 1.14.2 (April 16) is included. I take this language to mean that there has been no change to the VST DAW Plugin since April 16. I feel like a lone voice crying in the night, but it sure would be nice to see more love shown to the VST DAW Plugin. Certainly there is room for improvement, even if minor adjustments to increase the functionality and workflow friendliness. Am I alone on this?? Can I get an AMEN? Another Amen! I actually have given up on it. I can not see, at least in today's configuration, how it would help my workflow. But, as you all know, lately I have little music time and in fact what time I do have I mostly use on these great forums.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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Mario, you should be able to have as many midi tracks as you want now.
You could have one instance of the BB plugin on one track, this will send all the midi tracks/ channels to other tracks in the DAW with different Virtual Instruments on them,
now on another track you could have another instance of the BB plugin with more midi tracks sending to more tracks with virtual instruments.
Now you could have another instance that generated up 7 (or more) of the same midi track or different ones (I think they are going to add MultiRiffs for Midi also) and add a re-channel midi fx so all the channels will get sent to the one virtual instrument, then you just solo each track one at a time til you find the one that fits best.
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Mario, you should be able to have as many midi tracks as you want now.
You could have one instance of the BB plugin on one track, this will send all the midi tracks/ channels to other tracks in the DAW with different Virtual Instruments on them,
now on another track you could have another instance of the BB plugin with more midi tracks sending to more tracks with virtual instruments.
Now you could have another instance that generated up 7 (or more) of the same midi track or different ones (I think they are going to add MultiRiffs for Midi also) and add a re-channel midi fx so all the channels will get sent to the one virtual instrument, then you just solo each track one at a time til you find the one that fits best. Yes a very good point. However the last time I used the VSTi every time I drag and drops MIDI to my DAW the VSTi also wrote wavs to my C drive. I then had to remember to delete those wavs. Is this still happening?
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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I have a feeling that we will get an update soon
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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Yes a very good point. However the last time I used the VSTi every time I drag and drops MIDI to my DAW the VSTi also wrote wavs to my C drive. I then had to remember to delete those wavs. Is this still happening? Yes but an option to gen only midi is on the ToDoList, I put another request in, so hopefully next release.
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Yes a very good point. However the last time I used the VSTi every time I drag and drops MIDI to my DAW the VSTi also wrote wavs to my C drive. I then had to remember to delete those wavs. Is this still happening? Yes but an option to gen only midi is on the ToDoList, I put another request in, so hopefully next release. Thanx for the info.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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BIAB VST ( both windows and Mac ) should be getting **all ** the love.
Maybe I'm biased. but for anyone who uses a DAW a lot - this has. to be the case.
Unless one is just using BIAB as a practice tool or jazz education aid..........
Big Sur, Mac Mini i7 2018, 64GB RAM 2TB SSD
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It's good with the plugin they are identical so when it's all settled down they should get the same features and updates at the same time.
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Unless one is just using BIAB as a practice tool or jazz education aid.......... Just a guess from years of observation around here, that's about 90% of users. Going into October it's all about the new Biab 2020. Staff that just finished Mac 2019 I would think are moving over to Windows 2020 but they usually continue to do smaller updates. Whether that could include the VST, who knows? Bob
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Amen here too.
I actually only paid up for the 2019. upgrade because of the announcement of the Mac version of the BIAB plugin.
Yet I find myself unable to use this plugin at all due to all the limitations and bugs in this so far.
The chief limitation being of course the inordinate time it takes to do a regenerate after any change to an arrangement.
This is because of the render-to disk issue of course.
if I'd have known that this was going to be yet another promise of new functionality that simply fails I'd have kept my money.
Big Sur, Mac Mini i7 2018, 64GB RAM 2TB SSD
Yamaha PSR SX 900, Cubase, Ableton, UNIFY, OPUS ORCHESTRATOR, MASCHINE, Vienna Ensemble Pro ,Audiofuse, L6 HELI, KOMPLETE, Komplete Kontrol 88
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New in 2020 BIAB VST
Besides a boat load of new RT and Midi Content, this item catches my immediate attention.
• There are over 40 enhancements to the Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin that works directly inside your DAW (Cakewalk, Reaper, ProTools, PreSonus, etc.) to generate styles, RealTracks, RealDrums, Multi-Riffs, and more. These include Audio Harmonies, Customizing Tracks, Bar and Song Settings and more. Audio Harmonies, RealTracks sound improvements (gap filling, thickening).
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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If it’s ready for prime time this sounds good. I know there was an attempt recently to add some upgrades to version 1.14.2 as a beta release that came out 1.16.12 Sadly it was a train wreck, and didn’t work on multiple platforms. Most who testing it had to roll back to the earlier version. My guess is that that was scrapped due to time restraints, and all efforts were diverted to version 2.0.
I was hoping some of the promised updates would be added to the first version, however I am supportive of this release as I feel progress is being made toward a very good goal. For me personally the plugin is in my workflow wheel house. If it takes a annual update to get it where it needs to be so be it.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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