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Seems like there is a lot more focus on tone than technique these days.
I’m amazed at the number of guitar players who need 4 trips to the car and an hour to setup their rig/pedalboard.
Some of them can’t play their instruments very well.
For decades I was the guy who showed up with a telecaster, a Fender Vibrolux and a guitar cable. Five minutes in I was tuned up and ready to go.
All the tone a guitarist could handle.
No place to hide if your chops were deficient.
As I aged the 40 lb weight of the vibrolux made me look for a lighter rig.
I currently use a Quilter that weighs about half and costs 3x what I paid for the Vibrolux back in the 70’s. Solid state
I twiddle a few knobs but mostly I found a sound I like and leave it there.
Sometimes I miss the old Vibrolux.
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I have always been a simple guy when it comes to gear. A good quality guitar, a nice, straight, 20' cord, and a tube amplifier. I've played amps from 5w practice amps, to 22w in a single 12" open back combo, up to the multi speaker cabs with beefy 100W + rigs and auxiliary power amps giving me over 800w available. I don't think I ever came close to using the entire 800w.... not that I didn't try a time or two. ( when the club was empty )
I've dabbled with a few pedals and even had a modeling amp and still have a Line 6 Pod 2 for studio use but.... tend to use it for the amps it models vs the FX in it. I never really got into the FX with guitars other than a nice subtle reverb on the sound.
My opinion is, with nothing but guitar, you actually have to learn to play those 6 strings. You can't hide behind the fuzz and the chorus and the other sundry fx that are at ones disposal with the pedals on the market. In the last band I was in, I had a 22w stage amp. (Mesa Boogie Studio 22) It served me well for 2.5 years in a house gig. No pedals. Just straight in. That was the rig that was line out to the 800w power amp with dual 4x12 cabs for stage fill as needed. One sweet sounding rig. It wasn't about the volume despite having the power to cave skulls.
For someone who is just starting out.... I always recommend buying the best quality gear one can afford and buy it second hand.
several reasons.
1. good pro quality gear is easier to learn and play on.
2. if you decide it's not your thing, you can pretty much get your money back out.
3. if you decide you DO like it, you don't have to be in a hurry to spend money on better gear a year later as you improve.
4. the good stuff lasts a long time.
One more thing.... I have NEVER owned a waa waa pedal of any sort.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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He makes a lot of sense.
My first good amp was a 1965 Fender Super Reverb. Later I added a Dynacord Echocord Super S65 for delay. From the Fender I went with a Carvin FR1200 Full Range amp that was a real PITA to move around. When the S65 died I went to pedals. But I mounted them in an old guitar case and used a power supply with different home made +/- cords to power them. This was prior to what is available today. I was stupid not to patent them! So in the end it was only two trips to the car. Now I have a little Roland Micro Cube for live jams and computer amp modeling and effects for recording.
I agree with Herb in getting a quality guitar. If one can't find any good used ones I tell people to check either Rondo Music or Guitar Fetish for inexpensive good quality guitars. I also suggest that they get an amp costing $100 or less: there are a number of them out there. This way if they quit playing you are not out a lot of money. Teenage boys are notorious for quitting after two lessons because they figure by that time they should opening for Maroon 5!
YMMV
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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Hi all
Well as you know I have just gone down this road and very happy with the result.
The Fender Squire is great for some learning needed a bit of setting up but I got there.
But the cream on the cake was the class A tube amp just 2 channels 1 clean , which I use all the time and a dirty one should I ever want to make that sort of noise.
I like Guitar to sound like a Guitar not a screaming Banshee full of distortion and fuzz to the point where it would not matter what sort of mess you made of the chord or how bad the intonation was ,(that you had just spent hours getting right).
I have an absolute min of peddles and one of those is a tuner, then a compressor (for a bit more sustain and even out my weak finger plucking.) often switched to bypass anyway.
The only tone shifting comes from the occasional use of a Wha Wha this can be switched to Volume without any tone shift,
These are all pre input.
Then I have a Memory Toy Analogue echo up to about 500 ms this is an insert effect between the pre and power amp.
Just don’t see the point of spending all that money on a nice warm sounding clean tube amp , then making it sound distorted.
Mike
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I bought a fender mustang II a few years back and it gives me all the sounds I need and want. Clean to dirty. I live the software to create custom sounds. Still I find myself using two maybe three sound a good clean sound, another cleanish one with compression and a dirty one for squeal.
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