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#559244 - Yesterday at 04:09 AM [Pre-Sales FAQ] To much for most Jazz Musicians...
Registered: 01/13/17
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The problem with BIAB (I used it extensively about 20 years ago) is its simply become too complex too comprehensive for many (I didn’t say “all”) straight ahead Jazz musicians to bother with. Both here in Denver and back in NYC the dozens and dozens of horn players I know mostly use IReal book for backing tracks. This is a shame because BIAB is powerful enough to create far more Realistic tacks. But to have to sort through everything from Celtic Cello styles to Chicken Picken guitar is just too much to bother with. And then when you try to get help on the forums there is this attitude thing. Once I was just trying to understand how to pare down to straight ahead bebop/post bop styles (think every thing from Bird up through Chris Potter) in creating tracks, and had to deal with people arguing with me about how Bebop, Hard bop and post bop are not modern jazz. (Hello have you ever gone to Berklee and seen how many omnibooks are in use?). the bottom line is that I would love to use BIAB again, and recommend it to all my students, but they all just go with Ireal. What I don’t get is why in addition to the endless options from mega to ultra to whatever style packs, you don’t just organize options around genre. Why not just have a complete “bebop and beyond” PAC for those of us who play straight ahead. we can live without the Celtic Cellos (and not to knock these styles. I listen to everything from Bird to Bach to Tool. But I play straight jazz). That’s what I need in a backing track. And there is a community out there of players with a similar need. I suppose doing so is not cost effective as there are so many other sorts of musicians you cater too. But I would think others players in other genres could use such focused content. I guess you guys are packaging and parsing BIAB in a way that is most profitable. It just doesn’t work for a subset of us out here.
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#559246 - Yesterday at 04:51 AM [Pre-Sales FAQ] Re: To much for most Jazz Musicians... [Re: Joseph Cannavo]
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This has been a common request from many over the years. Well not necessarily Bebop [ btw that is not attitude, that's humor grin] , but certainly more focus on genre specific style sets.

I had hoped the enhancements to the Style Picker would have been helpful in these cases. In the image below I have selected only Jazz, only Bebop. I get 158 styles to the top of the listing. That should be a quick way to find what BIAB has for this genre. Does that help?


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#559297 - Yesterday at 10:40 AM [Pre-Sales FAQ] Re: To much for most Jazz Musicians... [Re: Joseph Cannavo]
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Welcome back to the forum Joseph Cannavo.

It has been awhile since your +++ original post +++ in 2017. I'm glad you decided to visit.

As MusicStudent (Dan) mentioned, the StylePicker has received a lot of attention since 2017 to make it easier for a user to discover styles that line up with their interests.

One interesting development is the addition of the "sort by song" option where a user enters the name of a song and the StylePicker sorts using the song name as a sort term. The song database is constantly updated and there are forum sections where users can suggest song titles to add to the database. The song database can also use specific song arrangements as a sort term in some cases. Here again, if there is a specific song title or arrangement you find missing in the database, suggest it.

You mentioned Abersold and Session Band in your initial 2017 post. There is at least one HUGE advantage has over both. The ausio material from both can be used inside Band-in-a-Box.

The Abersold audio tracks can be analyzed by the Audio Chord Wizard to create additional song arrangements for use as practice material. Once the chord arrangement is inside Band-in-a-Box (Biab) you can transpose to any key signature or shift tempo any way you desire.

Session Band uses audio loops selected by chord sheet. Band-in-a-Box can import loops.


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