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Canvas I finally had some free time over the Thanksgiving break, so I put together this little song. It's about the false self-concept the mass media feeds us. The track sounds best loud.  Real Tracks: RT381 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Syncopated Sugar RT650 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopRockBritHeavy RT632 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopAmericanMuted RT686 Organ, B3, Background Pop RC2586 Guitar, Electric, Soloist PunkMurray RT995 Bass, Electric, HardRockLA RealDrums-MetalClosedHat,BellRide DAW Reaper, Vocals Nectar 3, Mastering Ozone 8 Lyrics: Put away the face You stole from a jar You’re always afraid Exoteric feathers and tar I know I’m not a pretty woman I know I’m not a handsome man Don’t paint me beautiful on your canvas The Lord made me who I am No need for changing All the silver into gold You keep hanging onto lies you’ve been sold I know I’m not a pretty woman I know I’m not a handsome man Don’t paint me beautiful on your canvas The Lord made me who I am Window grazing palaces Flickering crown jewels simulating practices Of Plasticine tinseled ghouls I know you’re not a pretty woman I know you’re not a handsome man Won’t paint you beautiful on my canvas Oh Lord guide my wayward hand I know I’m not a pretty woman I know I’m not a handsome man Don’t paint me beautiful on your canvas The Lord made me who I am
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Thanks for sharing this very good song! I really liked it.
There are passages where I feel the backing track is a bit low in volume compared with the vocals... or feels a bit disconnected. Maybe a bit more reverb on the vocals... or just using the same reverb on vocals and instruments will fix that. (I'm not an expert just saying what I think as a novice).
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Excellent song. I really like the background vocals and instruments with the vocals layering on top and blending really well. I always enjoy songs with a driving energy and you got it. Some good guitar soloing in there too - I wish there was more and even a little more aggressive on them, but that's just me 
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This is very Iggy Pop from the New values era.
The one thing that needs changing is that super fizzy guitar on the right.
Either a different guitar or try to EQ away some of the fizz.
You could pop in a cleaner guitar and use one of the free JS amps sims in Reaper to get a better tone.
The guitar on the other side is really cool.
There are occasions when your voice is a little loud.
Oh, the solo doesn't seem to belong on any level.
fabulous song though.
Ummm...esoteric
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Thanks for sharing this very good song! I really liked it.
There are passages where I feel the backing track is a bit low in volume compared with the vocals... or feels a bit disconnected. Maybe a bit more reverb on the vocals... or just using the same reverb on vocals and instruments will fix that. (I'm not an expert just saying what I think as a novice).
Will Thanks, Will. I'm not happy with the vocal in the mix and am working on it.
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Excellent song. I really like the background vocals and instruments with the vocals layering on top and blending really well. I always enjoy songs with a driving energy and you got it. Some good guitar soloing in there too - I wish there was more and even a little more aggressive on them, but that's just me Ed, thanks for listening and for your comments.
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This is very Iggy Pop from the New values era.
The one thing that needs changing is that super fizzy guitar on the right.
Either a different guitar or try to EQ away some of the fizz.
You could pop in a cleaner guitar and use one of the free JS amps sims in Reaper to get a better tone.
The guitar on the other side is really cool.
There are occasions when your voice is a little loud.
Oh, the solo doesn't seem to belong on any level.
fabulous song though.
Ummm...esoteric Thanks, Ray. Mixing is like writing an essay or a story: I have to set it aside and look at it (or listen to it)after a few days have passed. I am particularly not happy with the way the vocals sound in the mix. I don't mean to come across as condescending; however, my intended word is "exoteric" not "esoteric." Exoteric is the opposite of esoteric. It means "suitable for or communicated to the general public." Esoteric would not fit the message of the lyric.
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Good Rock write. Killer BAND.
Your vocal on this is strong! As other mention, they sometimes stand out too much (for a Rock song), but I'm not sure it is a volume issue. Some added reverb and delay might tuck it in the mix a bit, yet keep the clarity. Just a guess, of course..
LOVE that last yell.
The guitar solos are a bit loud.
Excellent rocker. Good subject choice with a strong lyric.
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Outstanding use of BIAB. Great lyrics and vocals. I loved the back up singing during the chorus. Nice touch.
Good one!
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Good Rock write. Killer BAND.
Your vocal on this is strong! As other mention, they sometimes stand out too much (for a Rock song), but I'm not sure it is a volume issue. Some added reverb and delay might tuck it in the mix a bit, yet keep the clarity. Just a guess, of course..
LOVE that last yell.
The guitar solos are a bit loud.
Excellent rocker. Good subject choice with a strong lyric.
fj Thanks, Floyd. Believe it or not, I get my best listen to the mix in my car, I can hear the balance better than through my head phones. Today, on my 50 minute drive to work, I could hear how loud the guitar solos were. Thanks for pointing that out. The unevenness of the vocal has perplexed me in trying to fix it. I'll be working on it later this week. Scott
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Outstanding use of BIAB. Great lyrics and vocals. I loved the back up singing during the chorus. Nice touch.
Good one! Thanks, JPT. I appreciate the listen and the comments!
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Yeah, this is GREAT!
Vocals are just outstanding. You already have good feedback on the mix from floyd, so no need for me to add anything there.
Excellent song, excellent performance!
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What a cool rebel yell to close your excellent vocal throughout - minor tweaks aside you nail this as far as I`m concerned.
I liked your song inspiration and follow through with sharp lyrics and a slight metal vibe to the backing works very well.
Liked this alot!
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What a tune! Your vocal soar on this, and I thought the lyrics worked wonderfully well with the delivery and tone of the song. The chorus hits hard too, and the entire song just flows perfectly well. Thanks for sharing
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[quote=rayc].
I don't mean to come across as condescending; however, my intended word is "exoteric" not "esoteric." Exoteric is the opposite of esoteric. It means "suitable for or communicated to the general public." Esoteric would not fit the message of the lyric. Condescension - it was considered appropriate in Austen's England - it marked lines and station. I thought esoteric suited the idea of putting the face (public) away, a little better. Universal or outside versus exclusive or secret. It works both ways - your interpretation is the writer so you win.
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Hello Scott,
I already told you that I'm a huge fan of your song writing and this song is excellent, too. Loved the message, loved your vocals, almost adored your tiny backgrounf vocal fills. Perfect backing track.
When it comes to sound you can always discuss this and that and most likely Floyd's and Ray's suggestions might help to improve the sound, but I really enjoyed my listen a lot the way it sounded.
Really looking forward to your next song!
Take care,
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Scott,
Excellent tune, very different from others I heard from you. Especially vocals. I do not know what you did, but they sound big and warm even in my headphones, which are on colder side. Positive and raw energy on this. Iggy Pop came to mind. Scrolling down, I saw that I was not alone seeing IP influence. Very good performance and production. To my taste this is one of your best, mainly because of how you recorded vocals. You have a strong voice, but in many other songs, I think it was curbed by EQ. I guess it is a matter of taste. Enjoyed it!
Thank you for sharing!
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I really like your vocal on this one...
It sounds pretty bold & fits the production nicely...
I also like your lyrics especially...
"Put away the face You stole from a jar"...
A very vivid line...
I'm pleased you found time to write one over Thanksgiving!
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Man I'm back in the 70's listening to Jethro Tull!!! Cool song Scott with some clever little twists! Creative work!! Thanks, Torrey
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Hello Scott,
I already told you that I'm a huge fan of your song writing and this song is excellent, too. Loved the message, loved your vocals, almost adored your tiny backgrounf vocal fills. Perfect backing track.
When it comes to sound you can always discuss this and that and most likely Floyd's and Ray's suggestions might help to improve the sound, but I really enjoyed my listen a lot the way it sounded.
Really looking forward to your next song!
Take care,
Stefan Thanks, Stefan. Your comments are appreciated. I did a quick remix last night and tried to correct some of the vocal problems that had been vexing me, so I think it sound better when you listened to it today than it did yesterday.
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Scott,
Excellent tune, very different from others I heard from you. Especially vocals. I do not know what you did, but they sound big and warm even in my headphones, which are on colder side. Positive and raw energy on this. Iggy Pop came to mind. Scrolling down, I saw that I was not alone seeing IP influence. Very good performance and production. To my taste this is one of your best, mainly because of how you recorded vocals. You have a strong voice, but in many other songs, I think it was curbed by EQ. I guess it is a matter of taste. Enjoyed it!
Thank you for sharing!
Misha. Thanks for listening and commenting, Misha. As far as vocals, I usually color the vocals for the style of the song. It's funny about the Iggy Pop reference because I haven't listened to him before. I will have to add it to my list.
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Yeah, this is GREAT!
Vocals are just outstanding. You already have good feedback on the mix from floyd, so no need for me to add anything there.
Excellent song, excellent performance!
Thanks so much, Dave!
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What a cool rebel yell to close your excellent vocal throughout - minor tweaks aside you nail this as far as I`m concerned.
I liked your song inspiration and follow through with sharp lyrics and a slight metal vibe to the backing works very well.
Liked this alot!
Robert Thanks for your feedback, Robert.
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I really like your vocal on this one...
It sounds pretty bold & fits the production nicely...
I also like your lyrics especially...
"Put away the face You stole from a jar"...
A very vivid line...
I'm pleased you found time to write one over Thanksgiving! Thanks, Jim! Again, it's good to have you back.
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Exoteric... darned it, made me look that one up.  I don't hear a lot of vocals in the lower register, and you sound excellent in that range. Good write, nicely done.
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What better way to spend free time than making music! And it sounds like you had a lot of fun playing with concepts on this one. Great job, and thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
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Ezekiel’s Storm,
Wow, total 60’s throwback for me, a bit Doors (again for me), a bit psychedelic—gravitating tune. Great job on the vocals and backing tracks. Enjoyed this a lot—really well put together.
Cool, cool tune!!
All my best,
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Wow, vocals are amazing, and you didn't even use that awesome low register you have! It's interesting the comparisons people have made, from Iggy Pop to Jethro Tull, and I heard Iron Butterfly. You got some pipes, dude. Looking forward to whatever else you come up with.
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Dear Scott,
just listened to the revised versiin: Those tweaks really paid off - sounds terrific now. And, oh boy, your voice: just marvellous.
Scott, I have to return to your enunciation. I mean, I know that there are numerous varieties of American pronunciation (we hear a lot of them here on the forum, and following the recent inquiries on TV is really a treat for someone who is interested in that issue, if you can blind out the unbelevable cause for a while, that is ), but the way you articulate 'I'm not a pretty woman' sounds far more British or rather what linguists call 'mid-atlantic'. Please forgive me my curiousness: Did you grow up in the States? And if so: in which part?
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Dear Scott,
just listened to the revised versiin: Those tweaks really paid off - sounds terrific now. And, oh boy, your voice: just marvellous.
Scott, I have to return to your enunciation. I mean, I know that there are numerous varieties of American pronunciation (we hear a lot of them here on the forum, and following the recent inquiries on TV is really a treat for someone who is interested in that issue, if you can blind out the unbelevable cause for a while, that is ), but the way you articulate 'I'm not a pretty woman' sounds far more British or rather what linguists call 'mid-atlantic'. Please forgive me my curiousness: Did you grow up in the States? And if so: in which part?
Best regards,
Stefan Stefan I lived most of my life in Michigan. For the past seven years, I have resided in Virginia. I spent my first 33 years in lower Michigan, and then another 16 years in Michigan's upper peninsula, which has a completely different accent, sort of Canadian/Minnesotan. My enunciation probably comes from my studies in broadcasting and theater at the university in the early 80s. (Although I have been to Great Britain a few times, I don't think I picked up their speech patterns. )
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Good rocking tune, those heavy guitar instruments work really well with your voice and the mix is excellent. Energetic vocals, I really like the final cry! I would really like to see you performing this live on stage, jumping like Iggy Janne
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Hi Scott,
thanks a lot for your replyI - hope you don't blame for my curiousness.
Well, obviously I was completely misled, but your enunciation is really marvellous, listening to you is a real treat for me !
All the best,
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Dave, Ember, Deej, Tunemonger, and Janne,
Thanks so much for listening to my post and providing commentary. It is much appreciated.
Scott
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"Put away the face
You stole from a jar
You’re always afraid
Exoteric feathers and tar"
Well, that'll get your attention from the get go. Cool write indeed.
Great edgy vocasl and a showcase at the showcase for the use of RT/RD tracks. Excellent.
We cranked up the KRK's and everything held together just fine.
Rock on!
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"Put away the face
You stole from a jar
You’re always afraid
Exoteric feathers and tar"
Well, that'll get your attention from the get go. Cool write indeed.
Great edgy vocasl and a showcase at the showcase for the use of RT/RD tracks. Excellent.
We cranked up the KRK's and everything held together just fine.
Rock on!
J&B Thanks J&B for having a listen and leaving comments.
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Storming on!
Love the energy.
Nothing I don't like here.
Turned it up.
Cheers.
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Really good rocker!! I can hear a little Cream in this...you have a bit of Jack Bruce in the vocal here! Well done in every way!! Take care. Greg
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Thanks Scott... For taking time to listen to “There Won't Be No Christmas This Year ... You will find my response to your comments there... Also I’d like to mention You really add to the success of this User Showcase forum! Thanks again...
Jim
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Hi Scott,
This is a very engaging listen.
The band was awesome and was an excellent backing.
Rock is a genre that really challenges me when I try to write a rock song. I need to take a few lessons from what you've done here. Excellent work.
All the best,
Noel
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Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
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