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Another Issue #570451 12/14/19 05:39 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	This is same mgu dropped into VST (v2.5.1) on left and BIAB (2020) on right. Enharmonic Chords appear Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Capture.JPG (200.83 KB, 193 downloads)

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570612 12/15/19 02:08 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Ouch, that start to become a little more difficult to read than is really necessary. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570621 12/15/19 03:48 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	Hi VT - actually not so big a problem for us guitarists. We grab these chords off of the root notes but for someone who has played this song for years it caught my attention immediately. More of a problem is that the chord cannot be manually changed. When I retype Dbm7b5 to C#m7b5 it just changes it back to Dbm7b5. So the chord chart in the VST will not allow me to type in a C#. On the other hand, BIAB will allow me to enter the chord as a Db or C#. Just need a bit more love from our programmers for the VST. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570678 12/15/19 12:39 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,693 Redondo Beach, Ca. jazzmammal Veteran
jazzmammal Veteran Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,693 Redondo Beach, Ca.	I'm not at my computer to test but try changing the key sig to G since that's what the actual chart is. Bob Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Re: Another Issue jazzmammal #570699 12/15/19 03:53 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: jazzmammal I'm not at my computer to test but try changing the key sig to G since that's what the actual chart is. Bob Thanks, thats a good idea. I think I did try it and it was a bust, but I honestly don't recall. But alas the weekend is over and it is back to the day job. I will report back when I get time. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570728 12/16/19 03:12 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 5,261 MartinB Veteran
MartinB Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 5,261	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent More of a problem is that the chord cannot be manually changed. When I retype Dbm7b5 to C#m7b5 it just changes it back to Dbm7b5. So the chord chart in the VST will not allow me to type in a C#. On the other hand, BIAB will allow me to enter the chord as a Db or C#. Just need a bit more love from our programmers for the VST. BiaB allows entering and displaying Db and C#, iff transpose mode is deactivated. With transpose options set to some non concert instrument, BiaB does not allow simultaneous display of C# and Db for whatever unknown reason. Martin

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570729 12/16/19 03:38 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent Originally Posted By: jazzmammal I'm not at my computer to test but try changing the key sig to G since that's what the actual chart is. Bob Thanks, thats a good idea. I think I did try it and it was a bust, but I honestly don't recall. But alas the weekend is over and it is back to the day job. I will report back when I get time. So I changed to Key G instead of Em. This changed all the chords and left me with a mess. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue MartinB #570730 12/16/19 03:40 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: MartinB Originally Posted By: MusicStudent More of a problem is that the chord cannot be manually changed. When I retype Dbm7b5 to C#m7b5 it just changes it back to Dbm7b5. So the chord chart in the VST will not allow me to type in a C#. On the other hand, BIAB will allow me to enter the chord as a Db or C#. Just need a bit more love from our programmers for the VST. BiaB allows entering and displaying Db and C#, iff transpose mode is deactivated. With transpose options set to some non concert instrument, BiaB does not allow simultaneous display of C# and Db for whatever unknown reason. Ya, it is confusing indeed. This appears to have carried over into the VST also. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570758 12/16/19 07:00 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,693 Redondo Beach, Ca. jazzmammal Veteran
jazzmammal Veteran Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,693 Redondo Beach, Ca.	What kind of a mess? I used to test relative minor/major key changes and they worked fine. Is this a new songfile you created or a downloaded one? Bob Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Re: Another Issue jazzmammal #570760 12/16/19 07:08 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: jazzmammal What kind of a mess? I used to test relative minor/major key changes and they worked fine. Is this a new songfile you created or a downloaded one? Bob Bob, this is a standard BIAB mgu file of Autumn Leaves which was developed years ago. When I adjust the Key from Em to G. All the chords change. The opening Em changes to Gm and I assume the remaining changed accordingly.. That immediately confused me (that was the mess). I am thinking I should know enough about the musical theory to understand what happened, but just don't have time to wrap my head around this one at this time. Perhaps I should have expected that?? I just wanted to change the chords to eliminate the enharmonic designation not change the key. Dan BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570789 12/16/19 08:56 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,339 A Adar - PG Music PG Music Staff
Adar - PG Music PG Music Staff A Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,339	Thanks for the feedback Dan! This issue has already been fixed in the latest build which is currently in pre-release testing. It will be available later this week but you can download it now at this link: https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/support/patches/bb2020_win_update_build707.exe

Re: Another Issue Adar - PG Music #570811 12/16/19 10:51 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	I absolutely love when pre-release versions are available to users to check if fixes are available. Please make a standard mechanism to have these "pre-release" versions accessible to us. I promise I will never complain if something get broken due to using a pre-release as I am always willing to run at risk. Thanks for this one. I will give it a go tonight. Dan BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue Adar - PG Music #570821 12/16/19 12:16 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 5,261 MartinB Veteran
MartinB Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 5,261	Originally Posted By: Adar - PG Music Thanks for the feedback Dan! This issue has already been fixed in the latest build which is currently in pre-release testing. It will be available later this week but you can download it now at this link: https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/support/patches/bb2020_win_update_build707.exe Well, the issue of not allowing enharmonics whenever transpose options are set to some non-concert instrument is not fixed with BiaB(707). Martin

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570855 12/16/19 02:57 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	Martin, I have it working in BIAB VST. It is tricky but there is a lot more options under the hood in the newer version then in the past. So a lot more clicking to be done. The trick was to unselect the Transpose button. Then change the key to G and then I could type in any cord I wanted including Db or C#. Or something like that. These were options I was not aware were here in the past, but they seem to do the trick. It helped to read the new posting where the 49 items in the VST are now listed. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Capture2.JPG (49.75 KB, 76 downloads) BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570860 12/16/19 03:15 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,498 Pawling New York R Rob Helms Veteran
Rob Helms Veteran R Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,498 Pawling New York	I have to say that this release is very solid there are a few nagging things that Adar and the BBW team are working out but it is very good so far. I believe a couple more releases and its going to be very powerful. Last edited by Rob Helms; 12/16/19 03:37 PM. HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570865 12/16/19 03:33 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,231 Wauconda	I still struggle with the green, the blue and the red. And the sync with Reaper transport versus the VST transport. Still trying to learn the "Pipeline code". Seems to only play from the VST transport when the Master is playing. If you remove or mute the Master all goes silent unless you make the tracks green and then you can only hear them in the Reaper transport. Or something like that... it just needs to be more intuitive and simple for me. My problem solving skills have deteriorated with age. But, yes, this is all in the right direction. I appreciate the love the VST is getting. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570898 12/16/19 10:47 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	I'm just waiting to start using the Plugin when the buttons get fixed and a simple drag the track name to export. Mario will be able to see the mute/play solo as they have a letter rather than just colors that are hard to distinguish. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) BB-VST-Mixer-Solo-Mute5a.png (121.26 KB, 92 downloads)

Re: Another Issue DrDan #570941 12/17/19 03:29 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,498 Pawling New York R Rob Helms Veteran
Rob Helms Veteran R Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,498 Pawling New York	Pipeline, how would you drag all the tracks under that theory? If you Drag the master to get all, then there is not combined master track. Maybe like reaper a pop up box that say single or individual tracks? HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.

Re: Another Issue Rob Helms #570984 12/17/19 09:20 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	I had the little blue master track icon on the right in the other pics I just forgot to put it in that.

Re: Another Issue DrDan #571017 12/17/19 02:11 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Rob Helms Veteran R Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,498 Pawling New York	I C, in that case sounds good to me. HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.

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