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#570634 12/15/19 06:57 AM
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This one came about because I tried hard to find relaxation/meditation music to suit me, but my musician's ear kept getting grated by what I deemed inferior offerings. Then, this afternoon, I was listening to the Bach C Major Prelude for Piano and the Prelude from the Cello Suite No. 1 and ... well, I created this. Hope you like it and that it relaxes you :-)

https://jamesdelsono.bandcamp.com/track/peace-2

****** Song Summary *************
Title: Peace - 15 December 2019
File:Peace - 15 December 2019.SGU
Key=C , Tempo 65, Length (m:s)=4:18
No intro. 66 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 66. Repeat x1 chorus
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Style is VISIONS1.STY (Visions1 - Dreamy New Age)
Style MIDI Instruments are : Synth Strings 1 (51), Electric Piano (5), Vibes (12), Strings (49),
RealDrums [in Song:LaPopJazzSlowEv16: a: Snare, HiHat b: Busy Snare, Ride

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It is meditative, James...

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Haha - thanks, floyd jane! :-)

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Very pleasant...
And relaxing.


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Good music, James.


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Hi James,

I'm a huge fan of Bach. He was one of the history's most amazing composers.

You've certainly managed to create a nicely restful vibe with this work. Kudos to you.

And I'm with you... BIAB is an incredible program. I've been using it since 2006 and even now, I find new things that I didn't realise it could do.

Thank you for sharing. All the best,
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Thank you so much, everyone. VERY, very kind :-)

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I'm not sure John Stephen would've be pleased to be reduced to ambient/meditation/background music. The 1 part - Allegro of his Violin Concerto in A Minor is stirring as intended.
Often it's a mind set that causes us to register orchestral/symphonic music of certain periods as relaxing.
If the music isn't arresting then it's a failure unless it was set out to be a lullaby or ambient.
James,
your piece Peace is pleasant but the constant beat and the anticipation of variations in the fills of the drums kept me paying attention as did the odd bass note that I wondered about.
The sudden drop of sustain on a chord, like at 0.07, in a sparse arrangement also grabs my attention and I wonder if it's intentional or an artefact of BIAB.
I think my problem is I don't shut down unless I'm very familiar with the piece being played.

Last edited by rayc; 12/17/19 10:25 PM.

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Ray, I agree with you ... JS Bach is the greatest composer of all time - and I talk as someone who has been privileged enough to play his music for more than thirty years now. My Bach comment was more than a little tongue-in-cheek, of course ... but, if you know (as I'm sure that you do) his Prelude for Klavier and his Prelude from the Suite No. 1 for Solo Cello, you'll surely be in on the joke, right? :-)

Your other comments are spot on, of course. The variations of the drums as well as the odd chord drop were something I could do nothing about - they were part of the BIAB tracks. They bothered me, too ... but I thought that, all in all, I'd "release" the piece anyway. Back to the drawing board, therefore? :-)

One of those days, I shall post a video of myself playing the Bach Chaconne on the violin on here (if one is allowed to do that, of course) :-) I'd be genuinely SO curious to see what you guys would think - the quality of the musical ears on here is above many a classical audience's ones, I'd say. But, until then - back to the BIAB drawing board I go, it seems ... :-)

THANK YOU for your astute, spot on and kind comments!!!

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Originally Posted By: musician17


One of those days, I shall post a video of myself playing the Bach Chaconne on the violin on here (if one is allowed to do that, of course) :-)

That'd be great - seriously - find a away to do it.
BIAB is a little unpredictable when it comes to those things we discussed. What creates excitement and anticipation in conscious music undermines ambience. I suppose.
EDIT -
I'm not familiar with the clavier piece but being a poor cellist but serious Du Pre nut I'm very familiar with the cello prelude.


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
It is meditative, James...


Very meditative, and Peace is a nice thing to meditate on!! Take care. Greg

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Relaxation music is really important! I'm glad you were able to make some that worked for you.


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Interesting. I don't really think of songs with this much drums as 'meditative', but to each their own. smile

Thanks for posting, I enjoyed the listen, despite the drums and occasionally "interesting" bass note.

I could easily imagine a melody instrument on top of this... Say, a violin. If only you had a way to make that happen. wink


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David Cuny: haha - is that a hint you're dropping there, re: violin? ;-) We'll see what one can do, haha :-)

Greg and Ember: thank you!!!

Ray: I'll try to post something on here - failing that, I'll see if I can send you a Private Message with a link to some of my meagre violin efforts, haha ... for when you've really got nothing better to do than listen to them! Yes, you are of course spot on about excitement and anticipation vs ambience. It's so hard to get everything just right and so tempting to just "settle"! I'll have to curb my tendency for the second one when posting any future songs on here ... I do find it easy to say: "ah well, this'll do" when it comes to these songs ... more discipline needed on my part, it seems :-)

Jacqueline du Pré is, of course, a giant of the cello ... though I sway more towards Yo-Yo Ma's playing, myself - if I ever was forced to choose, of course. The Elgar Cello Concerto is my favourite (then the Dvorak and the rest :-) ) - and du Pré is right up there with it. Ah, I could talk about this kind of repertoire for hours!!! haha.

Thanks everyone for having the patience of saints with me - and I'm not joking :-)

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Nice work on this - definitely nailed the relaxing vibe on this. It flows absolutely gorgeously and I found it lush and really peaceful.

Thanks for sharing smile


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Thanks Deryk! Much appreciated.

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Originally Posted By: musician17

Jacqueline du Pré is, of course, a giant of the cello ... though I sway more towards Yo-Yo Ma's playing, myself - if I ever was forced to choose, of course. The Elgar Cello Concerto is my favourite (then the Dvorak and the rest :-) ) - and du Pré is right up there with it.

I have a JDP playing the Dvorak & a St Seans with her husband conducting - she hammers the cello & in one phrase it sounds like a fuzz guitar - no mean feat. YYM is cool & I have some of him but he doesn't have the amorality/madness of the lass.


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Very relaxing, James, perfect for this time of the year when we all are getting hectic instead of calm.
A really nice one.

Happy Holidays and all the best for the year ahead.

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This was relaxing and pleasant, not got a clue about this type of music though I enjoyed it.

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James,
Not at all famliar with the classical inspiration, I still enjoyed your way of inducing a meditative state with music!

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