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#580169 - 02/10/20 01:01 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Export Wav offset in DAW, beat is not even
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Hi,
I have a problem with the Wav export feature. until now it worked fine for me, well I did it for some 20 songs or so, to go on in a DAW (Samplitude in my case). Now the last two exports did something funny.
I export, go to my daw, set the tempo from biab there, lets say 85. the import the wav file. now i have a look on the count in, and it is not in time. i double checked it with cubase pro (see in the images below). first i thought, well count in is not important, how is it with the music. some bars are in time, some not. you could think of it musically, like laid back or something, but that is not really the result I need.
I wanted to check in biab but i dont now how to switch on the metronome there (acousticly, not just visual).
I am working with realtracks, so no midi timing problem. offset in the export dialog is 0. it is biab 2019 ultrapack with hd and it is updated. the styles are: _ballp16 and _cavernb
now i will try to put it manually right, but if you move one bar right others go out of time. I want to use it professionally for playbacks, but with this i dont know if the outcome will be sufficient.
Thanks a lot for help
Sebastian


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#580170 - 02/10/20 01:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Export Wav offset in DAW, beat is not even [Re: sebastianK]
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I assume you are using a “snap to grid” type option on the import. Looking at only a few notes (that look like a drum of sorts oh (yeh a counting)) they look to be the correct timing apart. Looks as it they are not imported onto the grid. If you are not using a snap option it might be best to do so.

Not thinking you did say count in.

Tony


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#580172 - 02/10/20 02:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Export Wav offset in DAW, beat is not even [Re: Teunis]
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Thanks, Tony, for your reply.
I dont know if I got everything right what you said.
well it is kind of a snap in, because i move all the tracks (when working with single tracks) to the start of the project, and that is my snapping point. I was curious, since cubase outcome was the same.
i would have vor shorten the wave to make it fit.
yes it was an outtake of some drums, exactly the whole mix.
attached you find an image starting from beat 1 (file "3")
the in file 4 there is the first bar, just drums, where you see an offset, and the (file 5), the next bar is in time.
so moving it manually? i dont know? i could manually time correct every bar, but well, that will not do.
And i could just put a new click track in front which is correct and can be used for additional records in the daw. But still I hope there is a workaround or I miss something.
thanks
sebastian


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#580566 - 02/12/20 02:15 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Export Wav offset in DAW, beat is not even [Re: sebastianK]
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Normally you can position an entire track in one go. Make sure the DAW has the same BPM as BIAB and slide or nudge the track. You could actually start on the second bar in the DAW. Once in the DAW turn off the Snap and nudge the tracks to the grid. I would do all tracks together using the kick drum or count in as the guide.

Why do the all the tracks together I hear you ask. Well sometimes the wave (note) say on a guitar starts slightly before the beat. If you move them to on the beat the combined tracks will sound off. (Sometimes part must be ahead of the beat, be it ever so slightly.)

The extra bar added to the start can be removed very easily after mixing and rendering is complete.

Just some thoughts
Tony
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