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#581640 - 02/19/20 11:45 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Free Plugin Chainer Element + BB VST3 Support + More Midi Tracks Win\Mac
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Trygve Larsen (post) couldn't get the program change in MiniHost so I found this after trying BlueCat's PatchWork that is $99, Larry Kehl mentioned it would be good to have a free alternative as BlueCat never has sales like other companies. So with a bit of hunting around and testing Element seems to do the job.
Hopefully DeaconBlues09 will do a great video on it smile

Anyone else please post any tips n trick you find using Element with BB here.

Mac Element0.4.1-64bit-Plugins-Mac.zip
Win64 Element0.41.1-64bit-Plugins-Win.zip
Win32 Element0.41.1-32bit-Plugins-Win.zip

https://github.com/kushview/Element/releases/tag/0.41.1
https://github.com/kushview/Element/releases/
https://kushview.net/free-vst-host/

Biab comes with the new version 3 VstSynthFont it has a lot more features but won't run outside of Biab unless you register it.
Here's an older version with less features that will run in Element
VSTSynthFont64-2.095-VSTSynthFont32-1.095.zip

Load KV_ElementFX.dll into a BB audio/realtrack or KV_Element.dll into a BB midi track.
Both will load/Drag n Drop a vst2 or vst3 FX or instrument.
EDIT: At the moment if you are Running Biab As Administrator if won't drag n drop VSTs into Element, an easy fix is download something like Explorer++, it is a single file, just right click > Properties > Compatibility > Run As Administrator, then just drag your VSTs in from that.
You can chain as many FX and Instruments as you like.
Ctrl+click remove connections.
Click the top right square for menu, right click for options menu.
There are so many other features to list here, just play around with it.
Once hooked up Save Group.
EXT for host input: (sync,midi) though there is a sync issue with BB at the moment that needs fixing, playing from the very start is ok but not from any bar.
This way you can send the output of Ezkeys to Sforzando and use one of the Biab Instruments or another vst instrument like Kontakt.
Send midi output from ChordPotion to another instrument.
This will also let you have the VST gui free of the confines of the Biab VST window, having all available to edit at the same time.
The bottom pic is Element set as Default Synth with RapidComposerVSTi to give more midi tracks (BB Chord Output midi track was imported into RapidComposer first to give the same chords, then the other tracks are imported to current project, enable BB Chord Output Win Mac )
RapidComposer with snap any midi to the chord track, look for regular sales of the standard version for around $50 www.rapidcomposer.com/news.html
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#581713 - 02/20/20 02:38 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Free Plugin Chainer Element + BB VST3 Support + More Midi Tracks Win\Mac [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Trygve Larsen (post) couldn't get the program change in MiniHost so I found this after trying BlueCat's PatchWork that is $99, Larry Kehl mentioned it would be good to have a free alternative as BlueCat never has sales like other companies. So with a bit of hunting around and testing Element seems to do the job.



Its not that Blue Cat doesn't have sales it's that this ONE product, Patchwork, never seems to go on sale - - there a few Blue cat Items on sale at Plugin boutique right now.

nevertheless - Pipeline comes though again! With what appears to be a very good alternative to both the free IL Minihost - the not free Patchworks

So there are choices when you need workarounds for any DAW, MIDI or audio routing issue

Larry
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#581757 - 02/20/20 10:41 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Free Plugin Chainer Element + BB VST3 Support + More Midi Tracks Win\Mac [Re: Pipeline]
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Thanks for the shoutout, Pipeline!

TBH, I downloaded Elements awhile ago, but never actually used it yet.

Just loaded it into Reaper where I'll try and familiarize myself with it over the weekend and see how well it integrates w/ BiaB, and maybe even record a video at some point early next week :-)
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#582118 - 02/23/20 11:19 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Free Plugin Chainer Element + BB VST3 Support + More Midi Tracks Win\Mac [Re: Pipeline]
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At the moment if you are Running Biab As Administrator if won't drag n drop VSTs into Element, an easy fix is download something like Explorer++, it is a single file, just right click > Properties > Compatibility > Run As Administrator, then just drag your VSTs in from that.
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