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#561237 - 10/28/19 04:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Biab Live Chord Input Playing
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Biab should be able to be made to do this as it works with the conductor ok, but for now this can be done in Reaper by dragging the Biab master stereo track into Reaper,
the chords are imported from BB musicXML or via the Biab Plugin.
You just create up say 4 bars of all the chords you will be playing.
Reaper uses a midi chord detection plugin for detecting what chords are being played on the midi keyboard.
A script will send the play head smoothly to that region chord, the chords can be changed on the beat or bar.
The script will also read keyswitches of this first octave or octave you set, these keyswitches will tell Reaper what section to play next, verse, chorus, solo, verse ending, chorus ending, count-in etc..
Different styles can be loaded into each track, temp changed and track soloed.
You can also use another vst in front of it to use 1 finger chords.
https://trackbout.com/ripchord
https://www.codefn42.com/chordz/
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?plugin=midiChords&id=1642
Insert Piz Midi VSTs Google Code Archive
https://code.google.com/archive/p/pizmidi/downloads

The video is just the prototype with a few chords example and live chord input, I just want to see if this is something that would be usable to enable users to play live chord input into BB styles ??


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#562856 - 11/06/19 08:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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If you could try this out, it still needs a bit of work but I just need some feedback.
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip
I'll make a better guide if it's all working ok.
After you have the Chord Player installed in Reaper from the guide below,
run ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua from the Action window or from the "Chord Region Player" button.
Create a Chord Input Track when asked "Yes"

Options > Preferences > MIDI Devices > enable Input from your keyboard.
On the Chord Input Midi track select your keyboard as Midi Input.

To get a Chord Font in the display right click chords.ttf > Install
in Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer
Scripts\ReaTrak\chords.ttf

Set the keyswitches to the notes in the pic or to your choice (these will be saved for next time)
Set the Keyswitch Octave to 1 or your choice.
You can also click the buttons on the GUI.

The idea is to generate up the tracks you need in Biab or Biab Plugin.
You generate up say 4 or more bars of the chords you will be using.
You can have more than 1 of the same chord region to give more variety.
Same with Endings. If you want Holds also you can have a maximum of 4 bars per hold.
You can generate up solos that can be put into the other color regions.

After you have generated up you track in BB or BB Plugin drag the stereo wav into a track under the Chord Input track. If the song is a different tempo than Reaper set Reaper to the bpm first.
Edit the track name so it has the tempo in it "My Song 4 120bpm"
this will allow you to have multiple tracks with different styles an tempos, as you select UP/Down it should solo the track and change the tempo.`
You can also have all the individual instrument tracks in a track "Folder" if need be.

To get the chords from BB into Reaper you can save as MusicXML, drag that into Reaper and hit the button "MusicXML Chords".
But if you have the BB Plugin just open the My Song.SGU, Unfold down the bottom right, save the My Song - Plugin.SGU reopen it again in the BB Plugin then hit the "Biab Plugin Chords" button, try it without fill regions for now as I will try and add auto fills to it.

You can add your own chord regions, just select the section, Shift+R and right click the region to edit name or color, but the easiest way is use the "*GUI*" "*GUI 2*" or "Circle of Fifths" buttons, you can then easily enter the chords or section color.
If you have the cursor under a chord region you can change the section color by clicking the colored buttons on the main panel.
Make sure you have Snap on and hit "Snap Chords to Grid" after.



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EZ Install Guide

For those new to Reaper this might be an easier way to install/update ReaTrak.
1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration
check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!

2. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration
ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List
Section> MIDI Editor > Import >
REAPER\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap

6. Reaper > View > Toolbar Docker add or change toolbar from
REAPER\MenuSets\

7. Make sure you have SWS Extensions installed.


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#562988 - 11/07/19 01:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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This is changing styles that have a different bpm, you just need "xxxbpm" in the track name. You can Edit the track name or have it in the wav file name you drag in. Just make sure to change Reaper to that tempo before dropping in the wav, or you can export the BB mix with ACID.


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#563079 - 11/07/19 11:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Here's an update it now has a change on Bar or Beat setting.
Right click Save Target/Link As
ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua

In Reaper > Option menu > Show Reaper resource path
Scripts\ReaTrack\
and replace ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua

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#563197 - 11/08/19 02:50 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Update Endings colors now match:

Right click Save Target/Link As
ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua

In Reaper > Option menu > Show Reaper resource path
Scripts\ReaTrack\
and replace ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua
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#563246 - 11/08/19 07:12 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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I made a video demo, it only has a few chords and one 4 bar section for each. You can add a lot more to give more variety rather than playing the same 4 bar chord section.
The video is a bit jerky in places as there are a lot of things running and screen recording at the same time. It will play smoothly from chord to chord normally. The clicking is the chord pad as I have no keyboards here at the moment, so if someone could try it with their keyboard that would help.
It will also play direct from the BB Plugin without dragging any tracks in Reaper. You could have a BB Plugin on each track with a different style at a different bpm.

Watch Demo Video BB Tracks Chord Player
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#563646 - 11/11/19 02:03 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Has anyone with Reaper and a keyboard tired this out yet ?
I don't have a keyboard here at the moment as I lend them out.
So if someone can give some feedback it would help.
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#563743 - 11/12/19 07:45 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Has anyone with Reaper and a keyboard tired this out yet ?
I don't have a keyboard here at the moment as I lend them out.
So if someone can give some feedback it would help.


Hey Pipeline,

I'd be thrilled to give it a shot. Thing is, I've got a fresh install of Reaper, and want to set up every chordpicker tool, utility, and script you've got on tap.

Thing is, there are so many threads and posts you have scattered piecemeal all over the forums with all different dates, I have no idea what order and what versions I should install things in...

Note that I've already got the SWS and Reascript extensions loaded.

Is there any chance you can post a comprehensive list of all the latest versions of your goodies (along with a link to the videos that are most current) so I don't start reinstalling things over each other, or install things that are really only relevant pre-BiaB 2019 VST?

BTW, you may want to post these in a new thread for others who may want to similarly avail themselves.

Finally, once I'm all set up, I would be thrilled to plug in my MIDI keyboard and sort this other stuff out...

Thanks again for all your amazing contributions!!!
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#563863 - 11/12/19 09:49 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: DeaconBlues09]
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The website is down at the moment so here is the same file as above
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca06iq6xxgza20y/ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip?dl=1
it has all the latest scripts the one in the forum ReaTrak_ver.46.ReaperConfigZip is the latest but without the chord player, once this is working ok I'll add it to the ReaTrak_ver.47.ReaperConfigZip release.
Use the guide above to install into Reaper, there a youtube video as well.
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#563866 - 11/12/19 11:04 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Thanks Pipeline!

I'll get on this as soon as I free up some time today, and let you know if I have any questions :-)
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#563879 - 11/13/19 01:23 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
If you could try this out, it still needs a bit of work but I just need some feedback.
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip
I'll make a better guide if it's all working ok.
After you have the Chord Player installed in Reaper from the guide below,
run ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua from the Action window or from the "Chord Region Player" button.
Create a Chord Input Track when asked "Yes"

Options > Preferences > MIDI Devices > enable Input from your keyboard.
On the Chord Input Midi track select your keyboard as Midi Input.

To get a Chord Font in the display right click chords.ttf > Install
in Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer
Scripts\ReaTrak\chords.ttf

Set the keyswitches to the notes in the pic or to your choice (these will be saved for next time)
Set the Keyswitch Octave to 1 or your choice.
You can also click the buttons on the GUI.

The idea is to generate up the tracks you need in Biab or Biab Plugin.
You generate up say 4 or more bars of the chords you will be using.
You can have more than 1 of the same chord region to give more variety.
Same with Endings. If you want Holds also you can have a maximum of 4 bars per hold.
You can generate up solos that can be put into the other color regions.

After you have generated up you track in BB or BB Plugin drag the stereo wav into a track under the Chord Input track. If the song is a different tempo than Reaper set Reaper to the bpm first.
Edit the track name so it has the tempo in it "My Song 4 120bpm"
this will allow you to have multiple tracks with different styles an tempos, as you select UP/Down it should solo the track and change the tempo.`
You can also have all the individual instrument tracks in a track "Folder" if need be.

To get the chords from BB into Reaper you can save as MusicXML, drag that into Reaper and hit the button "MusicXML Chords".
But if you have the BB Plugin just open the My Song.SGU, Unfold down the bottom right, save the My Song - Plugin.SGU reopen it again in the BB Plugin then hit the "Biab Plugin Chords" button, try it without fill regions for now as I will try and add auto fills to it.

You can add your own chord regions, just select the section, Shift+R and right click the region to edit name or color, but the easiest way is use the "*GUI*" "*GUI 2*" or "Circle of Fifths" buttons, you can then easily enter the chords or section color.
If you have the cursor under a chord region you can change the section color by clicking the colored buttons on the main panel.
Make sure you have Snap on and hit "Snap Chords to Grid" after.



Full Screen


Full Screen




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1qcxM0Lnc

EZ Install Guide

For those new to Reaper this might be an easier way to install/update ReaTrak.
1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration
check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!

2. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration
ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List
Section> MIDI Editor > Import >
REAPER\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap

6. Reaper > View > Toolbar Docker add or change toolbar from
REAPER\MenuSets\

7. Make sure you have SWS Extensions installed.


To Show Reaper Resource Path

Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer


Hey Pipeline,

I got through step 6, and I have SWS installed (see screenshot).

Not sure what I'm supposed to do at this point.

Within the context of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1qcxM0Lnc), what should I do next?

TIA!


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#563884 - 11/13/19 01:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: DeaconBlues09]
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Right click on Toolbar 1 tab > Customize toolbar...
at the top left drop down Select > Floating toolbar 14, 15, or 16
at the bottom right > Import (this should take you to REAPER\MenuSets)
you should see
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
select the appropriate number (you can change the toolbar slot by dragging it into Notepad and change the number to another slot.

Code:
[Floating toolbar 16]
title=ReaTrak Toolbar Large
icon_0=ReaTrak-count-in.png
icon_1=ReaTrak-intro-post-fill.png
icon_2=ReaTrak-intro.png
icon_3=ReaTrak-intro-fill.
........
........
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#563885 - 11/13/19 01:57 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Right click on Toolbar 1 tab > Customize toolbar...
at the top left drop down Select > Floating toolbar 14, 15, or 16
at the bottom right > Import (this should take you to REAPER\MenuSets)
you should see
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
select the appropriate number (you can change the toolbar slot by dragging it into Notepad and change the number to another slot.

Code:
[Floating toolbar 16]
title=ReaTrak Toolbar Large
icon_0=ReaTrak-count-in.png
icon_1=ReaTrak-intro-post-fill.png
icon_2=ReaTrak-intro.png
icon_3=ReaTrak-intro-fill.
........
........


Thanks for the prompt reply! One more thing though, What's with the code in quotes? Is that something I need to copy-paste somewhere?
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#563886 - 11/13/19 02:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: DeaconBlues09]
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No that's if you open a ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
in notepad.
You can drag the tab of the toolbar and drop it where you like on the Main GUI.



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#563887 - 11/13/19 02:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: DeaconBlues09]
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Never mind, I got them installed! :-)

Now how should I run the region player script to test it out with my MIDI keyboard?

(Sorry for all these dumb questions...computers and code are not really my thing and I'm afraid I need some hand-holding here, lol)
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#563888 - 11/13/19 02:08 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
No that's if you open a ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
in notepad.
You can drag the tab of the toolbar and drop it where you like on the Main GUI.



Fantastic! Do you know of any shortcuts to switch between toolbars (preferably closing the one before, or even binding each shortcut to a key combination switchable by, say, a digit?)

You're the best, Pipeline!
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#563889 - 11/13/19 02:13 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: DeaconBlues09]
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Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
Never mind, I got them installed! :-)

Now how should I run the region player script to test it out with my MIDI keyboard?

(Sorry for all these dumb questions...computers and code are not really my thing and I'm afraid I need some hand-holding here, lol)



Never mind, I see the answer to my Q is further up in this thread (I think)...

Will update shortly.
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#563890 - 11/13/19 02:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: DeaconBlues09]
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Here's an update for the chord player it will set the beat or bar change at startup:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulm7mu6xszds4qe/ReaTrak%20midi%20chord%20input%20to%20region%20chord%20player.lua?dl=1
Action menu > Show action list add whatever hotkey you like:


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#563891 - 11/13/19 02:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Here's an update for the chord player it will set the beat or bar change at startup:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulm7mu6xszds4qe/ReaTrak%20midi%20chord%20input%20to%20region%20chord%20player.lua?dl=1
Action menu > Show action list add whatever hotkey you like:


OK, I downloaded the script, but I'm not sure how to import it.

Please advise.

Thanks!
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#563892 - 11/13/19 02:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing [Re: DeaconBlues09]
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Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer

Scripts\ReaTrak\
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My very highest recommendation. Just upgrade! Or if for some strange reason you don’t have it yet, BUY THIS ONE! It will change your musical life!"
-"Dr. Dave" Walker

Thank you for the review, Dr. Dave!

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Italian for Windows is Here!

Abbiamo lavorato duro e abbiamo aggiunto 50 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui 202 RealTracks (il doppio dei 101 che abbiamo spesso pubblicato in passato), nuovi RealStyles, SuperTracks MIDI, Studi strumentali, trascrizioni RealDrums, stili Extra PAK 8 e altro!

ACQUISTA/AGGIORNA & SCARICA ADESSO

Interview: Eyes on Success featuring PG Music Inc., Band-in-a-Box® 2020, and the Updated JAWS Script

Take 30 minutes and make sure to listen to the latest episode from Eyes on Success, which focuses on the history of Band-in-a-Box® and using it with the screen reader JAWS, created by Peter Torpey. Hosts Nancy & Peter discuss our company history and Band-in-a-Box program with Tobin, our chief development officer, including how Band-in-a-Box is even more accessible with the help of their JAWS screen reader scripts!

Click here to download and listen to the podcast - you don't want to miss this one!

Eyes on Success is a weekly radio show / podcast geared to the visually impaired called "Eyes On Success" and that can be found at www.EyesOnSuccess.net.

Currently the scripts and associated documentation and resources can be found here.

You can watch Peter Torpey's video testimonial here.

#TipTuesday - Style Changes in Band-in-a-Box®

Head to our Tips & Tricks forum to read what other Band-in-a-Box users have discovered about the program!

Like mrgeeze's recent post Style Changes within a song.. another great BIAB feature.

...My arrangement's bass Real Track was 397 (bass Acoustic Paul).
Solid but not really what I wanted for a solo.

I hit the F5 key to bring up bar setting and poked around till i found the Real Tracks command button in the upper right.
Clicked on that & quickly change the bass to 452 (Soloist (bluesy).
12 bars later I did the same and switched it back to 397.

The results were excellent...

Did you know about this feature? Learn all about Bar Settings and how you can adjust them here.

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2020 Update Available!

If you are a PowerTracks Pro Audio 2020, be sure to download this small Update Patch released by our development team.

Enjoy the program!

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