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#589658 - 04/04/20 10:41 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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I replied in your other thread, but judging by your image, you are not using the Focusrite at all anymore. (see image below)


As for the recent build -
I actually have 2 new AMD systems; built one, bought one.
One was a few hundred $$ less than the other. <grin>

I used the parts below, but note this motherboard does not have onboard graphics so you need a graphic card.
The amount of RAM is up to you also (separate).

The processor and motherboard were pretty affordable, being about half the total cost.
Not saying these were the same dealers I bought from (I just Googled and found the same stuff I used)

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48
https://www.amazon.com/ROG-Strix-B450-F-Gaming-Motherboard/dp/B07FKTZC4M

Like I said, after that you need to decide on a graphics card and RAM.
The unexpected cost for me was the W10 license; the new hardware needed a new license.
That's about $130
So that put me at about $380 before RAM and graphics.
I don't need gaming graphics, so that was pretty cheap.

That's about all I can think of to tell you if you are thinking about a build.
There's better stuff out there, but this system is working fine for me so far.


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#589717 - 04/04/20 02:25 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: Matt Finley]
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Hi Michael, use the ASIO drivers as has been said. Things such as RealBand and BIAB should run ok but you’ll most likely have issues with Kontakt if the PC is under powered which I suspect it is. Check the CPU ratings on the site I sent you yesterday.

You might also find when playing back it will stutter quite a bit if it is under powered. You can overcome this by increasing buffers on the ASIO driver but that will increase the latency. Latency is not an issue if only playing back.

You’ll see quite a number of folk are using i3 or better CPU (the AMD equivalent). Kontakt recommends at least i5. A lot of good VST plugins require at least i3 and 8 gig of RAM. Personally I over spec my PCs but I find in the 5 or so year lifespan of my PCs they eventually are no longer really over speced.

If what I’m reading is correct your PC might just be a little under which can create many of the issues you have. As I say check on the AMD CPU chart I sent you earlier. Then check on the Native Instruments Kontakt Player link regarding the Minimum requirements for Kontakt Player. Do the same for other top of the line VST plugins and you’ll see what I’m getting at.

Just reading these things is why I’m writing this. I think if your PC is under speed CPU wise you’ll run into one issue after another.

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#589720 - 04/04/20 02:48 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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As @Teunis noted, increasing the ASIO buffer size can reduce CPU load quite a bit. If you're recording voice or an instrument, it's helpful if you can run cleanly with a buffer of 256. If mixing, a buffer of 2048 usually works very well. Any buffer size greater than 256 will give you noticeable latency.

If you're having trouble recording glitch-free, try to kill as many unnecessary tasks as possible. The less you ask of your PC, the better.
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#589731 - 04/04/20 03:29 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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Michael,

In relation to my post much earlier in the thread, Did you contact PG Music and ask if they still solve user problems by remotely linking onto a faulty computer?

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#589747 - 04/04/20 04:10 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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Well after you said that I called them and there was a voice message that says that they’re not doing service of a technical nature because of the virus situation. So yes I called and that was the result.
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#589763 - 04/04/20 04:39 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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Originally Posted By: goofeyfoot
Well after you said that I called them and there was a voice message that says that they’re not doing service of a technical nature because of the virus situation. So yes I called and that was the result.


Oh, that's unfortunate. But you are getting good guidance here.
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#589857 - 04/05/20 05:00 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: rharv]
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If I were going to use the Focusrite external sound card, would I also have to order a separate sound card for inside the computer? Or would you just use the onboard sound for every day sound tasks?

Thanks.

Michael
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#589859 - 04/05/20 05:09 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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All I use is the external on both systems.
If there was an internal soundcard I disabled it.

Yes you can play YouTube, listen to disks or MP3s, video conference etc. using just the external device.
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#589865 - 04/05/20 06:07 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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Right. Do not use the internal sound card.
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#597071 - 05/12/20 10:11 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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Your signature shows a Focusrite 8i18 External Card already. So you already have an external interface?

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#597100 - 05/12/20 12:32 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: New Sound Card Serious Hassles [Re: goofeyfoot]
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Yes I got it a few weeks ago. I also built a new computer. So everything works fine now, at least for the moment.
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