|
|
|
|
#599023 - 05/25/20 05:04 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Display only available Styles and RealStyles
|
|
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
Newbie
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
|
I realize this must be such a newbie question it was probably asked and answerd in 2008 and I just cannot find it.
I am composing a few songs and I have been exploring the best styles to go with each.
However, while I understand the theory behind realtracks, I always seem to pick a style that is either not available or, at some point 3 of the 4 instruments simply stop playing. From that point on I am lost. Even saving the song before that point doesn't always return me to the base song I saved (as an example, I have a song now with 3 Bass channels, one in melody one in soloist and one in Bass. The first two are empty, but I am unable to make them go away.
Not to mention that invariably, when I go save a song I get a yellow alert sayng "Realtrack #xx is not available". Is there even a log where I can see that in the song, so should I really, really need it I can choose to buy it and not end up with the wrong set? Do I have to take screenshots?
In any case, this is what I would like to do:
1) Display and audition only the Realstyles I own. Yes, I know I can display N/A in front of the ones I don't have. I don't want to see them at all. Should I want to, I'd like the ability to display them but on a regular basis I don't want to see styles I don't own.
2) I'd like the same thing for regular styles. In fact, I am having a hard time displaying regular styles the way I was used to in BIAB 2008. I don't mind MIDI based styles. In fact, except for drums and the odd instrument, eventually I am going to record my own part in Studio One anyway.
3) Drums, realdrums… Let's say I find a style I like but I want the drums to have a bit different rhythm. How do I do that? Again, I love the sound a realdrum, but if I don't own it, it's no good to me, unless PG Music is going to start selling them A La Carte.
I totally see why PG Music puts the not owned RealStyles in among the choices. It's useful for the artist that absolutely needs to have that style and PG music gets to sell a pack.
Unfortunately, I have a budget and while my BIAB is not the bottom of the barrel, I know I am missing a lot of nice styles. Tough luck for me.
While I am on topic, I find the purchasing of add on a bit confusing. I know I can check what I have and what I am missing from the HELP menu.
Apparently I have all the Styles Disks and all the Soloist disks, except that I am constantly getting alerts that say I don't have this or that. At the very least, I'd like to understand the logic behind it.
Thank you so much.
Edited by conticreative (05/25/20 05:12 PM)
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599024 - 05/25/20 05:11 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: conticreative]
|
|
Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 11089
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Veteran
Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 11089
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
|
Hopefully this is a starting point:
Attachments
Post attachments only available when logged in
_________________________
BIAB&RB2020(Audiophile),Win-10Pro, SonarPlatinum, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, KorgX3R, RodeNGT2, AM802mixer, NS40M StudioMonitors, Pioneer Act. Mons, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599025 - 05/25/20 05:15 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: VideoTrack]
|
|
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
Newbie
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
|
Thank you. I did find that, and I did set it up the way you have it, but then after choosing a style and saving the song, I got "Style #xx is missing, etc. etc." which I found confusing. Wasn't the entire style that was missing, but one of the instruments.
Is it possible something went wrong in the install?
Also, I had styles from back in 2008 (The last version I purchased. Maybe those are the ones throwing an error?
Thank you though. At least now I know there isn't a secret handshake for that.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599026 - 05/25/20 05:28 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: conticreative]
|
|
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
Newbie
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
|
Question: How come even after choosing to display only owned RT I still see the majority of tracks with N/A in the list? Also, each time I try a style of the song I am working on, invariably I get a notice that some RT instrument is missing. 
Edited by conticreative (05/25/20 05:28 PM)
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599033 - 05/25/20 06:22 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: conticreative]
|
|
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 20227
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Veteran
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 20227
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
|
First, when you have the Style Picker window open, do a Rebuild, Slow, Yes.
Second, is this computer running a newer version of BIAB? I ask because in 2018 PG Music changed the location of files, which may account for your 2008 files missing. There is a Cleanup utility you can run that cannot hurt and may help. Look in the Help menu, Utilities, Run Cleanup Routine. Look for a bunch of lines that say File Count 0.
However, RealDrums were introduced in 2008 and RealTracks not until 2009, I think, plus no such thing yet as RealStyles, so that may not matter. But it will still help us if you give us more detail about what you have.
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Win Audiophile & 2020 Mac UltraPak. Software: Cakewalk, Adobe Audition CC, Notion; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7 16 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & monitors.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599099 - 05/26/20 06:43 AM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: conticreative]
|
|
Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3157
PG Music Staff
Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3157
|
Hello conticreative,
The things proposed by Matt Finley and VideoTrack SHOULD have taken care of this - if it isn't filtering properly still, that is curious.
What exact version of Band-in-a-Box is this? Win or Mac, and what year version? And if you go to your 'About Band-in-a-Box' window, what's the 3 digit number in brackets? This will be the build you are running - maybe there's an update you are due for that would fix this up.
_________________________
Cheers,
Deryk
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599133 - 05/26/20 11:10 AM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: conticreative]
|
|
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 4792
Loc: Victoria, BC
PG Music Staff
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 4792
Loc: Victoria, BC
|
Question: How come even after choosing to display only owned RT I still see the majority of tracks with N/A in the list? To answer this question specifically, it is because as can be seen in your screenshot, you haven't selected to only show Styles with RealTracks that are found. I.E. it's possible to have a style (.STY) and not necessarily have all of the RealTracks that it calls for. You can, if you want, load in one of these styles and find the best substitute that you DO have. Right-click on the track | Select RealTracks | Find Best Sub... If you wanted to get all of the RealTracks, then an UltraPAK upgrade is the best route.
_________________________
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599240 - 05/26/20 07:51 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: Deryk - PG Music]
|
|
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
Newbie
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
|
I have BIAB 2020 (717) MEGAPACK for Windows that I bought about a month ago. I did own BIAB 2008 and at some point I had purchased a few other things from PG Music, but I have having issue remembering what I had for lunch, who knows what I did in the past 13 years? So I have been trying to have at least one computer (the one I am on now) where only BIAB 2020 is installed (Although I have old stuff saved in a backup external disk, so I hope BIAB doesn't search the whole machine). I have added a few old songs I had from back in the day, but that should not be an issue. Considering how long it has been since I worked with BIAB, I think I am doing OK as far as output, but the Realtracks, realdrum and loops, while easy to understand concepts, are confusing me in practice when it comes to using them in practice. I always seem to find a style that's a beer short of a six pack. I just cleared the search, rebuilt all the styles and I took a screenshot of that.  I assume that [RT n/a] is something I don't own? Maybe I am misunderstanding that. Could it mean the style exist just not in RT? I also noticed there are two menu items that say "Show only styles that are FOUND". Clicking on either only highlights the top one and there is no change in the list (that I can see). My objective is simply to see the styles (or realTracks?) I own or I may have added/downloaded (if there is such a thing) and not tracks that are not going to work. I also would like to only see midi styles, but I think I know how to do that. The tools are pretty self explanatory. I hope the new screenshot helps, but I am ready to admit I could be clueless.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599241 - 05/26/20 07:55 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: Andrew - PG Music]
|
|
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
Newbie
Registered: 01/07/17
Posts: 7
|
Thank you. I think I am getting closer to a solution. While I love realtracks, short of owning the Audiophile edition, I think it may turn out to be an exercise in futility. Since in my own songs I intend to play many of the parts myself (to various degrees of ability and digital cheating), they are not absolutely necessary.
In fact, I was looking at updating my BIAB collection, but I'll leave that for a separate thread.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599360 - 05/27/20 02:37 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: conticreative]
|
|
Registered: 04/14/20
Posts: 71
Enthusiast
Registered: 04/14/20
Posts: 71
|
The difference in RealTracks between MegaPak and Ultrapak is significant - 500 versus 2900(!). I'm a new BiaB user - a little over a month, and bought the starter kit (aka ProPak) not knowing anything about RealTracks. Within a couple of days I was sold on them so did the upgrade, and haven't regretted it. IMHO their usefullness may depend upon the styles of music you are creating - for me the jazz guitars, bass, and drums are priceless.
I don't think there's a difference in number of RealTracks between Ultrapak and Audiophile, just the higher quality audio files. I've read a mix of opinions on whether that difference can typically be heard.
I do find the upgrade paths a little confusing for someone like me who wants to incrementally upgrade over a period of a month or two - being a new user it takes a while to understand the power here. I went from Pro to UltraPak for the same total cost as if I had purchased Ultrapak initially. But as I understand from talking to the sales chat , if I wanted to upgrade from Ultrapak to Audiophile it would cost $469, versus the $200 difference between what I have and Audiophile.
Edited by cwiggins999 (05/27/20 02:40 PM)
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#599374 - 05/27/20 03:51 PM
[Beginners Forum]
Re: Display only available Styles and RealStyles
[Re: cwiggins999]
|
|
Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 11089
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Veteran
Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 11089
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
|
...
I don't think there's a difference in number of RealTracks between Ultrapak and Audiophile, just the higher quality audio files. Yes, my understanding is that this is correct. The content is identical in terms of number of RealTracks and Styles.
_________________________
BIAB&RB2020(Audiophile),Win-10Pro, SonarPlatinum, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, KorgX3R, RodeNGT2, AM802mixer, NS40M StudioMonitors, Pioneer Act. Mons, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
The Xtra Styles PAK & Loops-with-Style PAK Special ENDS TODAY!
It's the last day to SAVE when you SUPERCHARGE your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition with 200 new RealStyles with Xtra Styles PAK 9, and 100 NEW Loops & 50 NEW Styles with Loops-with-Style PAK 2!!
ORDER NOW! OUR SPECIAL ENDS TODAY!
Save more than 50% when you order Xtra Styles PAKs & Loops-with-Style PAKs for Band-in-a-Box®!
Add 200 Groundbreaking NEW RealStyles with Xtra Styles PAK 9 for $29 (reg. $49) and 100 NEW Loops & 50 NEW Styles with Loops-with-Style PAK 2 for just $19 (reg. $29)! Or, add all 1,400+ RealStyles with Xtra Styles PAK 1-9 for only $199 (reg. $349)!
Learn more:
Xtra Styles PAKs
Loops-with-Style PAKs
Mac user? Click here for OS specific purchase links.
Changing Languages in Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows #TipTuesday
Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows translations are now available in 8 different languages!
Adding a "language patch" is easy - simply head to the language forum of your choice, and look for a pinned post announcing the new version. Requests can also be sent to sales@pgmusic.com.
Once you've installed the language patch, simply open the program and voilà - translated!
To switch back to the English version of Band-in-a-Box, in the program you would select Options | Language Selection... choose USA English, then restart the program.
Learn more about the Options menu in Band-in-a-Box® here.
Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows translated versions currently available:
Danish
Dutch
French
German
Polish
Italian
Spanish
Swedish
Add-ons Special ENDING! Xtra Styles PAK 9 & Loops-with-Style PAK 2...
There's still A LITTLE time left to SAVE when you SUPERCHARGE your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition with 200 new RealStyles with Xtra Styles PAK 9, and 100 NEW Loops & 50 NEW Styles with Loops-with-Style PAK 2!!
ORDER NOW! OUR SPECIAL ENDS JULY 15TH!
Xtra Styles PAK 9 includes deep-south New Orleans gospel, a country soul groove, a psychedelic pop ballad, action-sequence cinematic metal, a Cajun jaw harp boogie, post-punk folk rock, quarter-feel jazz blues, several modern jazz styles, a modern Celtic folk reel, multiple 6/8 grooves, and so much more! There's a MultiStyle in every genre, and our biggest MultiStyle has a total of ten substyles! Add it to your collection today for just $29 (reg. $49)!
Loops-with-Style PAK 2 includes 50 new Styles & 100 new Loops to add to your Band-in-a-Box® collection! There are two new genres: gospel and funk, and we've added to the selection for electronic, hip hop, jazz, pop, R&B, rock, and world! Purchase Loops-with-Style PAK 2 on sale for only $19 (reg. $29)!
Already have a few of our Xtra Styles PAKs? Top up now - each of our 9 Xtra Styles PAKs are just $29 (reg. $49)! Don't have any, and want them ALL? Grab all during our sale for just $199 (reg. $349)!
Learn more about Xtra Styles PAKs for Band-in-a-Box and listen to demos here.
More information on Loops-with-Style PAKs can be found here.
Mac user? Click here for OS specific purchase links.
RealBand® Turns 12!
RealBand® for Windows® is your all-in-one audio workstation and accompaniment program, and if you've purchased a copy of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows in the last decade, it's been included in your purchase!
We released RealBand in July 2008, along with Band-in-a-Box® 2008.5.
"RealBand brings a new level of ease and flexibility to anyone creating recordings. Record your own tracks, type in the chords, pick a style, and then add any MIDI or audio (Real) tracks to follow your chords - all in a single program. For example, type in chords to your song, generate a RealDrums track, record in your guitar and vocal parts. Then put on your 'arranger' hat and have some fun automatically adding RealTracks - maybe a guitar solo, or pedal steel background for the bridge."
We hope everyone enjoys using RealBand, which combines some great features from our PowerTracks Pro Audio program with the powerful accompaniment features from Band-in-a-Box®!
Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Spanish for Windows is Here!
¡Hay más de 50 nuevas características en Band-in-a-Box® 2020! Hay mejoras en RealTracks (RealTracks Vocal de Sonido más Suave, RealTracks Engrosamiento, RealTracks "Find-a-Sub" y MultiRiffs). La mayoría de los RealDrums ahora tienen RealCharts (con notación de batería precisa). Hay un nuevo navegador de Artistas RealTracks para encontrar información / biografías / enlaces / listas de RealTracks en todos los artistas. Un nuevo Navegador de Funciones permite al usuario nuevo u "olvidadizo" encontrar y usar fácilmente la mayoría de las funciones / teclas de acceso rápido / documentos desde una sola ventana. Ecualizar Tempo permite cambiar una canción de rubato grabada a un tempo fijo. Tiempo de audio mejorado / estiramiento de tono (Elastique) incluido. Hay mejoras en el Selector de Canciones, Bajo/Batería o Batería solo Auto-Intros, 3.400 títulos añadidos, mejoras MusicXML, guitarra para "Zurdos" y "Vista de estudiante", mejoras de Arrastrar y Soltar, Ventana Múltiple del Mago del Acorde de Audio y mucho más!
COMPRE/ACTUALIZE Y DESCARGUE YA!
Video - Entering More Than 4 Chords Per Bar in Band-in-a-Box!
One of our latest support videos created by Tobin shows off a great workaround for entering more than 4 chords per bar in your Band-in-a-Box song, using a combination of half-time and normal RealTracks - check it out!
Video Testimonial - Dennis Dearing Talks Band-in-a-Box®
Dennis remembers Band-in-a-Box® from years ago, but his connection to Mike Harrison and hearing him talk about the RealTracks is what really got him excited about the program!
Hear his thoughts and see how he uses the Band-in-a-Box® VST DAW Plugin for his projects with his Video Testimonial:
https://youtu.be/WqmtoxfJwDw
It's been a great addition to my workflow!
-Dennis Dearing
To learn more about Dennis, check out his testimonial page here.
You can create your own video testimonial letting people know how you use the program too! Learn how here.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
32497 Members
68 Forums
65219 Topics
552662 Posts
Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Previous Topic
Index
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean