|
|
|
|
#600619 - 06/05/20 06:19 AM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
|
|
Registered: 06/05/20
Posts: 1
Newbie
Registered: 06/05/20
Posts: 1
|
Hi, I'm trying to improve my guitar playing by learning theory and sight reading. Does anyone know if it's appropriate to beam two semiquavers together in x/4 time? (Aka when the beat is a crotchet. I'm in 3/4 time to be specific.) I know you should beam them when they make up one whole beat or one whole group (or bar subdivision) with other semiquavers or quavers, but I'm not sure if there are any other scenarios in which they should be beamed and the book isn't that clear.
The bar goes like this (in 3/4): dotted crotchet, semiquaver, semiquaver, crotchet.
So the semiquavers only last a half beat together, not a full beat, and there aren't any adjacent notes that can be beamed. But the semiquavers just look like they should be beamed! What's correct here?
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#600981 - 06/07/20 09:58 AM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Re: Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
[Re: Terrencelovesyou]
|
|
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 20189
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Veteran
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 20189
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
|
Yes, I would beam them.
I just entered this pattern into BIAB using a 3/4 style, and BIAB beamed them.
There is a general rule that one does not beam over the middle of a bar, but that doesn't apply here. Go ahead and beam them. It looks better, and you said this is for sight-reading, where making the notation look good is half the battle.
For anyone reading who is not in England, a crochet is a quarter note, and a semiquaver is a 16th note.
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Win Audiophile & 2020 Mac UltraPak. Software: Cakewalk, Adobe Audition CC, Notion; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7 16 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & monitors.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#601026 - 06/07/20 04:09 PM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Re: Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
[Re: Terrencelovesyou]
|
|
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 16570
Loc: Australia
Veteran
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 16570
Loc: Australia
|
Hi Terrecnce,
Welcome to the forum.
Yes, those would be beamed.
Many years ago, I read a book by Gardner Read called 'Music Notation', it's one of the most fascinating books I've ever taken the time to sit down with. Your local library might have it.
Regards,
Noel
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#602436 - 06/17/20 11:25 AM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Re: Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
[Re: Matt Finley]
|
|
Registered: 10/28/08
Posts: 38
Enthusiast
Registered: 10/28/08
Posts: 38
|
For anyone reading who is not in England, a crochet is a quarter note, and a semiquaver is a 16th note.
For a minute there I thought I had a stroke and couldn't read any more. LOL. I had no idea what he was asking!
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#602444 - 06/17/20 01:39 PM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Re: Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
[Re: Terrencelovesyou]
|
|
Registered: 12/03/18
Posts: 63
Loc: Flagstaff, AZ
Enthusiast
Registered: 12/03/18
Posts: 63
Loc: Flagstaff, AZ
|
I've got a dollar for anyone who can create a BiaB song with appropriate lyrics titled:
hemidemisemiquaver
_________________________
PC: i7, 16 GB, 2 TB; Win10 Home x64; PreSonus AudioBox 44VSL; BiaB 2020 Ultra
Studio One 4 Pro; Notion 6; Melodyne 5 Studio; SpectraLayers Pro 6; Guitar Pro 7
PreSonus FaderPort Classic; Nektar P6; M-Audio BX8 D2; Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#604196 - 06/28/20 12:38 PM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Re: Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
[Re: TheMaartian]
|
|
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3443
Loc: Sacramento, California
Veteran
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3443
Loc: Sacramento, California
|
I've got a dollar for anyone who can create a BiaB song with appropriate lyrics titled:
hemidemisemiquaver Well, here are some lyrics: Hemi-demi-semi-quaverWhen I was taking music lessons My teacher sat me down And looking at what I'd written She told me with a frown You've gotten all your notation wrong It's really such a mess These flags and beams and dotted notes Are unreadable ugliness! Your dots are splots; those flags adrift Beams and stems are disconnected But all these note durations Must be first to be corrected. You've written this in eighth notes What you should have done in quavers These quarters ought be crotchets You're a terrible engraver! That whole note? Try a semi-breve; And for a half note, write a minimum. What was good enough for Renaissance We still use for notating rhythm! In tears I watched her tear apart My happy little song; But even at that tender age I knew that it was wrong To use such long words for little dots Is archaic and antique Combining the worst of languages Both Latin, French and Greek And to this day, I only ask You do this simple favor When you see a sixty-fourth note Don't say hemidemisemiquaver!
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#604202 - 06/28/20 01:05 PM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Re: Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
[Re: Terrencelovesyou]
|
|
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 6163
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Veteran
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 6163
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
|
David, By any chance was the lyrics written with the medley of "Shimmy, Shimmy, Ko-Ko Bop" in mind? The lyrics match the recording almost perfectly. +++ Song Video +++ 
_________________________
Jim Fogle - 2020 BiaB (724) RB (Build 4) Ultra+ PAK Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 1909, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#604235 - 06/28/20 03:26 PM
[Woodshedding - Learning to Play!]
Re: Notation question: rules for beaming semiquavers
[Re: Jim Fogle]
|
|
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3443
Loc: Sacramento, California
Veteran
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3443
Loc: Sacramento, California
|
By any chance was the lyrics written with the medley of "Shimmy, Shimmy, Ko-Ko Bop" in mind? The lyrics match the recording almost perfectly. +++ Song Video +++ Darn, now I've got that earworm stuck in my head. Although as a kid, I misremembered the words as "Shimmy, Shimmy Co-Co-Puffs". But no - I was just channeling my inner Dr. Seuss. 
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video Testimonial - Dennis Dearing Talks Band-in-a-Box®
Dennis remembers Band-in-a-Box® from years ago, but his connection to Mike Harrison and hearing him talk about the RealTracks is what really got him excited about the program!
Hear his thoughts and see how he uses the Band-in-a-Box® VST DAW Plugin for his projects with his Video Testimonial:
https://youtu.be/WqmtoxfJwDw
It's been a great addition to my workflow!
-Dennis Dearing
To learn more about Dennis, check out his testimonial page here.
You can create your own video testimonial letting people know how you use the program too! Learn how here.
Band-in-a-Box® 2020 Polish for Windows is Here!
Dodaliśmy ponad 50 nowych funkcji do Band-in-a-Box® 2020! Są udoskonalenia ścieżek RealTracks (Delikatniej brzmiące wokale RealTracks, Pogrubianie RealTracks, funkcja "Znajdź odmianę" dla RealTracks i MultiRiffów). Większość RealDrums ma teraz RealCharts (z dokładną Notacją Bębnów). Jest nowa Przeglądarka Artystów RealTracks umożliwiające znalezienie informacji/biografii/linków/listy ścieżek RealTracks dla wszystkich artystów. Nowa Przeglądarka Funkcji pozwala nowym lub "zapominalskim" użytkownikom na łatwe znalezienie i użycie większości funkcji/skrótów/dokumentów z poziomu jednego okna. Funkcja Wyrównaj Tempo pozwala na zmianę utworu nagranego w rytmie rubato i dostosowanie go do ustalonego tempa. Udoskonalono funkcje rozciągania brzmień audio w czasie/wysokości dźwięku (Elastique). Są też udoskonalenia opcji Wybory Utworu, automatycznych wstępów na Basie/Bębnach lub tylko samych bębnach (Auto-Intros), dodano 3,400 tytułów, są udoskonalenia w zakresie MusicXML, mamy widok dla gitarzysty "Leworęcznego" oraz "Widok dla ucznia" przy grze na gitarze, udoskonalenia opcji Przeciągnij i Upuść, multi-okna wyświetlającego Magika Audio Akordów i wiele innych poprawek!
ZAKUP/UAKTUALNIJ & POBIERZ TERAZ!
Add-ons Special EXTENDED! Xtra Styles PAK 9 & Loops-with-Style PAK 2...
There's still time to SAVE when you SUPERCHARGE your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition with 200 new RealStyles with Xtra Styles PAK 9, and 100 NEW Loops & 50 NEW Styles with Loops-with-Style PAK 2!!
We've EXTENDED our special until JULY 15TH!
Xtra Styles PAK 9 includes deep-south New Orleans gospel, a country soul groove, a psychedelic pop ballad, action-sequence cinematic metal, a Cajun jaw harp boogie, post-punk folk rock, quarter-feel jazz blues, several modern jazz styles, a modern Celtic folk reel, multiple 6/8 grooves, and so much more! There's a MultiStyle in every genre, and our biggest MultiStyle has a total of ten substyles! Add it to your collection today for just $29 (reg. $49)!
Loops-with-Style PAK 2 includes 50 new Styles & 100 new Loops to add to your Band-in-a-Box® collection! There are two new genres: gospel and funk, and we've added to the selection for electronic, hip hop, jazz, pop, R&B, rock, and world! Purchase Loops-with-Style PAK 2 on sale for only $19 (reg. $29)!
Already have a few of our Xtra Styles PAKs? Top up now - each of our 9 Xtra Styles PAKs are just $29 (reg. $49)! Don't have any, and want them ALL? Grab all during our sale for just $199 (reg. $349)!
Learn more about Xtra Styles PAKs for Band-in-a-Box and listen to demos here.
More information on Loops-with-Style PAKs can be found here.
Mac user? Click here for OS specific purchase links.
DAW Plugin FAQs Resource!
We've added a new Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin for Mac FAQ to our FAQ and Knowledge Base Forum - make sure you check it out!
This is where we'll be sharing any solutions we discover for frequent problems reported while working through our DAW Plugin tech support.
Like this post from Andrew: StylePicker does not see my styles and RealTracks, or they are showing as N/A.
Click here for the solution.
Windows user? Click here for your forum links.
Add-ons Special Almost Over! Xtra Styles PAK 9 & Loops-with-Style PAK 2...
There's still time to SAVE when you SUPERCHARGE your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition with 200 new RealStyles with Xtra Styles PAK 9, and 100 NEW Loops & 50 NEW Styles with Loops-with-Style PAK 2!!
We've EXTENDED our special until JULY 15TH!
Xtra Styles PAK 9 includes deep-south New Orleans gospel, a country soul groove, a psychedelic pop ballad, action-sequence cinematic metal, a Cajun jaw harp boogie, post-punk folk rock, quarter-feel jazz blues, several modern jazz styles, a modern Celtic folk reel, multiple 6/8 grooves, and so much more! There's a MultiStyle in every genre, and our biggest MultiStyle has a total of ten substyles! Add it to your collection today for just $29 (reg. $49)!
Loops-with-Style PAK 2 includes 50 new Styles & 100 new Loops to add to your Band-in-a-Box® collection! There are two new genres: gospel and funk, and we've added to the selection for electronic, hip hop, jazz, pop, R&B, rock, and world! Purchase Loops-with-Style PAK 2 on sale for only $19 (reg. $29)!
Already have a few of our Xtra Styles PAKs? Top up now - each of our 9 Xtra Styles PAKs are just $29 (reg. $49)! Don't have any, and want them ALL? Grab all during our sale for just $199 (reg. $349)!
Learn more about Xtra Styles PAKs for Band-in-a-Box and listen to demos here.
More information on Loops-with-Style PAKs can be found here.
Mac user? Click here for OS specific purchase links.
An Updated Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Mac is Here!
The latest Band-in-a-Box 2020 update announcement is HUGE!
With this updated version, easily find your (purchased) Xtra Styles PAK 9 RealStyles in the updated StylePicker window, [ctrl] and [shift] shortcut keys will allow you to open your RealDrums picker and preferences windows with one 'click', there are improvements to Bar Based Lyric entry, stable playback of style demos, the UPDATED DAW Plugin is included, and more!
The updated DAW Plugin 2.9.41 adds additional and redesigned action buttons, refined DAW syncing, Chord Sheet enhancements, improvements to MultiRiffs, RealTracks, RealDrums, and MIDI features, and so much more!
We've made a video that highlights all the changes to the DAW Plugin with build 2.9.41: Watch it...
Learn more about the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Mac b412 and download here.
Updated Band-in-a-Box® 2020 and VST DAW Plugin for Windows!
Did you see the latest build update announcement for Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows?
It’s PACKED with powerful updates, including additional RealCharts, improved RealStyles demos, language support, and significant additions and improvements to the DAW Plugin!
The updated DAW Plugin 2.9.41 adds additional and redesigned action buttons, refined DAW syncing, Chord Sheet enhancements, improvements to MultiRiffs, RealTracks, RealDrums, and MIDI features, and so much more! In fact, we’ve made a video that highlights all the changes to the DAW Plugin with build 2.9.41: Click here to check it out.
Learn more about the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2020 b724 for Windows and download it here.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
32450 Members
68 Forums
65096 Topics
551513 Posts
Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Previous Topic
Index
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean