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Ray,
Sometimes you just got to walk away from tune...not to over do it.
I think you hit the sweet spot on this. Just walk away! smile
Crunchy guitar is great! Vocals are excellent, not sure why you would want anybody else on this. Nice grungy tune!

Only one suggestion, vocals couple of DBs louder.
Thank you for sharing.

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ray,

This is sounding really good.

The tracks are balanced well. Each part hits "just the right spot". An excellent mix.

To me, the vocals sound "too sweet". They don't have the standard "angry" that typical Punk vocals always seem to have (even for songs that aren't necessarily "angry" songs). Not that the vocals aren't "good" - they just don't "mesh" with the tone of the tracks. (An opinion, needless to say...)

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Very cool driving tune ray. Guitar sounds great. Awesome drums. Well done


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Hi Ray
"It's Time" - brings back memories.
This track is Oz pub rock at it's finest. I should send a link to my 'ol mate Peter Garrett.He would be perfect for this!

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Ray

Sounds great looking forward to the next installment.

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The first version sounded fine, although the vocals were a bit like Waiting for Godot. wink

Vocals on the latest version sounded fine, although like floyd jane I was expecting something a bit angrier. laugh


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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Ray,
Sometimes you just got to walk away from tune...not to over do it.
I think you hit the sweet spot on this. Just walk away! smile
Crunchy guitar is great! Vocals are excellent, not sure why you would want anybody else on this. Nice grungy tune!

Only one suggestion, vocals couple of DBs louder.
Thank you for sharing.

Misha.


Misha, Thanks,
I'm almost done.
I couldn't walk as I had the next part in my head.
It has "sung" verses as well as some Audio embellishment related to the topic.
I couldn't post it in the OP so it's here, with you:
ALMOST FINISHED


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
ray,

This is sounding really good.

The tracks are balanced well. Each part hits "just the right spot". An excellent mix.

To me, the vocals sound "too sweet". They don't have the standard "angry" that typical Punk vocals always seem to have (even for songs that aren't necessarily "angry" songs). Not that the vocals aren't "good" - they just don't "mesh" with the tone of the tracks. (An opinion, needless to say...)

fj

I agree fj,
I managed to get something a little better this morning.
verse vocals are atonally aggressive or aggressively atonal.
Thanks for the kick in the pants to do that.


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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Very cool driving tune ray. Guitar sounds great. Awesome drums. Well done

Thanks Scott - some tweaks to the drums and things for your critique if you've the time...link in Misha's comment.


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Originally Posted By: Gary Weder
Hi Ray
"It's Time" - brings back memories.
This track is Oz pub rock at it's finest. I should send a link to my 'ol mate Peter Garrett.He would be perfect for this!

Gary,
Thanks for the comment and ackowledgement of time n place.
I've added the verses as well as a little timely embellishment.
Updated Fri 17th
PG was great in the era of MO I used to go to see (st 2 albums) and he was a good minister in government...pity he copped the blame for shonks in the industry...but that's a Liberal Oppo for you. No sign of that sort of blame game with RoboDebt.


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Ray

Sounds great looking forward to the next instalment.

Peter

Here it is for you...
Complete with nostalgia component.

UPDATE Fri 17th


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Originally Posted By: dcuny
The first version sounded fine, although the vocals were a bit like Waiting for Godot. wink

Vocals on the latest version sounded fine, although like floyd jane I was expecting something a bit angrier. laugh
'Thanks david,
I hope I've given fj what he wanted in the latest iteration...
Update Fri 17 FJ'd


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Very cool. I like it. I dig how you've incorporated the spoken sample in your song. Sorry if I missed it in your description of the song, but was this a recording of Gough? I wasn't familiar with the story, so I tried to read a bit about it on the internet. If this is a historical recording, I'm curious how the copyright works. Is it in the public domain? I love what you do in your ending too--incorporating the other song. Is that a historic song? Something from the civil rights movement? I'm curious about the licensing on that too and using it in your song. I'd love to use more historic recordings in my songs as way of commentary and/or contextualization. I suppose if I couldn't use them because of copyright laws, I could "make up" something that was similar. I admire your song. Wonderful feel, texture. Quality all around. Enjoyable listen. Cheers, Todd

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Originally Posted By: TexasFrets
Very cool. I like it. I dig how you've incorporated the spoken sample in your song. Sorry if I missed it in your description of the song, but was this a recording of Gough? I wasn't familiar with the story, so I tried to read a bit about it on the internet. If this is a historical recording, I'm curious how the copyright works. Is it in the public domain? I love what you do in your ending too--incorporating the other song. Is that a historic song? Something from the civil rights movement? I'm curious about the licensing on that too and using it in your song. I'd love to use more historic recordings in my songs as way of commentary and/or contextualization. I suppose if I couldn't use them because of copyright laws, I could "make up" something that was similar. I admire your song. Wonderful feel, texture. Quality all around. Enjoyable listen. Cheers, Todd

Todd,
yes, it's Gough. The video/audio of him is 72 and before campaign stuff and is from the national archives so copyright free. The song at the end is his campaign song from 72..written for and owned by the Labor Party so free enough too. I frequently raid youtube (with the creative commons filter) as well as the Prelinger Archives for US stuff. The audio of Gough is actually ripped from the videos of him ... yesterday I had used snippets of the video and accompanying audio as the verses but figured that was only good for a single listen or two. Gough completely changed Australia for the better in four years, rather the opp. of Mr Trump.The song and themes are very civil rights sounding/feeling as that was a major part of his promise & impact. This is a list that even a right wing paper had to make and acknowledge his achievements... Achievements Thanks for your kind words.


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Originally Posted By: dcuny
The first version sounded fine, although the vocals were a bit like Waiting for Godot. wink

Vocals on the latest version sounded fine, although like floyd jane I was expecting something a bit angrier. laugh
'Thanks david,
I hope I've given fj what he wanted in the latest iteration...
Update Fri 17 FJ'd


Oh, yeah. Now, THAT's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!

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yes, it's Gough. The video/audio of him is 72 and before campaign stuff and is from the national archives so copyright free. The song at the end is his campaign song from 72..written for and owned by the Labor Party so free enough too. I frequently raid youtube (with the creative commons filter) as well as the Prelinger Archives for US stuff. The audio of Gough is actually ripped from the videos of him ... yesterday I had used snippets of the video and accompanying audio as the verses but figured that was only good for a single listen or two. Gough completely changed Australia for the better in four years, rather the opp. of Mr Trump.The song and themes are very civil rights sounding/feeling as that was a major part of his promise & impact. This is a list that even a right wing paper had to make and acknowledge his achievements... Achievements Thanks for your kind words.


I followed the link you shared, and I read about his achievements. Very impressive. I'd love to get someone like that in office here. Of course, given our current president, I'd really be happy with anyone else at the moment. ;-)

That's a great idea using the creative commons filter on YouTube. I'll give that a try. And I'll also check out the Prelinger Archives. I'm excited about incorporating some historical recordings into my songs.

Great job again on your song! Really a fun and interesting listen. Cheers, Todd

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Ray,
yeah!
I like this version:
https://soundcloud.com/rayc/strangledext2l

Very Cool! Fun ending!
Thank you for sharing.

P.S. Short story. In late 80's a friend recorded a concert of a punk band from amateur radio station onto his tape deck and made me a copy... Years later, I went and I bought "official release" of that concert on CD... I still prefer that tape recording sound better. So, please keep a copy of "unmastered" version and try to listen them side by side a year or two later, when ears heal.

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