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#610398 - 08/12/20 09:23 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Keyboard Controller
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I am looking for advice on choosing a midi keyboard to play the melody. My needs are very simple.

Easy to install is important along with a small footprint.

Thanks
Ron

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#610404 - 08/12/20 10:37 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Keyboard Controller [Re: keyboard]
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Mike Head Offline
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HI

Have a look at M Audio.
They do a 32 key mini , and 49 and 61 Mk 3 keystation
The Also do the Oxygen 49 and 61 MK IV. These have 6 drum pads as well as.
9 sliders and 8 rotary encoders.

https://www.m-audio.com/products/browse/category/keyboards-and-controllers


I have one from Novation, the Impulse 61 I believe this has a slightly bigger foot print
If you are tight for foot print go for one of the first two keystations as without all the drum pads and gizmos they are smaller back to front

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#610419 - 08/12/20 12:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Keyboard Controller [Re: keyboard]
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Lots of choices. I use an iRig Keys 37, because I have more than two octaves in a still-small footprint.
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#610524 - 08/13/20 05:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Keyboard Controller [Re: keyboard]
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Actually, any midi keyboard will do that job. I have 2 synths in my studio. Both are midi capable and have been used for different projects depending on the need.

Things to consider....

number of keys. I would recommend a 61 key as a minimum. You might not think you need that many but there will come a time when you will want that many.

Touch sensitive. The harder you press the louder and more aggressive the note is played. Like a real piano and adds that human feel to the playing.

Weighted keys. Weighted keys more closely resemble the feel of a real piano vs the "nothing behind it" feel of many synths. Each has its advantages.



A few places not to overlook in your search to buy a keyboard controller. Yard sales, pawn shops, and want ads for sale. Everybody has one of these laying around that they don't play with and will often sell it in really good shape for way less than the music store. Unless you really need the brand new, with a warrantee, in the original box.... don't buy it from a music store unless that's the way you roll.

The 2 I got.... one was given to me absolutely free and the other I bought lightly used from the keyboard player in our house band when she left the band. I think she was asking half price of it new.
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#610696 - 08/14/20 01:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Keyboard Controller [Re: keyboard]
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Ron, since you're forum name is Keyboard I assume you're a keys player as I am. Personally, I don't care if a controller is weighted or not. For gigging I'm mostly a B3 guy anyway but I have a grand piano in my living room.

Any stage keyboard can be used as a midi controller but if you're strictly talking about a home studio with a small desk then sure, pick up whatever minimum size fits your space. If all you're going to do is enter single note melody's a 25 key is probably fine. But, if you're a good player and you want to control a high end synth library you'll need more than that along with all the knobs and faders you can get. Tell us more about what kind of player you are and what you want to do.

I totally agree with Herb, buy used. Been doing that all my life, I've never bought a new keyboard ever. Used controllers are all over Craigslist, and online retail websites like Guitar Center, Reverb, Sweetwater, etc.

Bob
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#610768 - 08/15/20 03:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Keyboard Controller [Re: keyboard]
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Right, I agree with JazzMammal; used can be the way to go with a word of caution. Be careful of how the condition is described. My "like new" could be your worst nightmare.

Case in point, I got a new-to-me Yamaha Montage from Guitar Center. They described it as "like new". When it came in from their store in RI, one of the control knobs was missing and the unit had a long crack on the end and a lifted face plate. I rejected that one and ordered another from their store in AL. That one was also described as "like new"...and it really was! No dents, no dings, no dust, not a scratch anywhere!

Do some homework on what your interested in. Look up the owners manual on line and get familiar with how it works so you can give the once-over when it arrives. Order from a reputable dealer with a money back guarantee if you don't like it. Have it sent to their store, not your home. Be there when it arrives. Unpack it with their rep standing by. Very closely examine it. Have them hook it up. Plug it and check out all the keys, features, displays, buttons, sliders what have you.

With all this CoVid stuff going on and the near complete shutdown of all live music, this could be an ideal time to pick up a bargain.

You can save a lot of money by buying used, but be careful, don't buy someone else's problem.

Jeff
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#610778 - 08/15/20 06:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Keyboard Controller [Re: keyboard]
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I have a 49 key native instruments komplete controller. I also have an Akai mini 25 found that to be a tad restrictive. I’m find the 49 key to be perfect for me. Plus I love the native instruments software sounds. I find that the keyboard integrated nicely into the systems I use Band in a Box, Logic X and Studio one.

Whi”e I agree with Herb and Bob, on getting great deals with used gear. Sometimes it works out better to buy new IF you get some nice content with the package. With the native instruments units some nice sounds come packaged. I have a good friend who has bought several licenses for NI libraries and he gave me a license. So I have almost everything they make, but if I just had what the bundle it would be some nice stuff.

Bottom line if you already have a ton of sound libraries used rocks, but if not sometimes new gets you started.
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