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#600109 - 06/01/20 01:09 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] How much music theory did the Beatles really know
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#600168 - 06/02/20 06:15 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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Wow - this is actually really fascinating! Didn't have time to watch the full thing at this exact second but bookmarked for later.

Nice find smile
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#600189 - 06/02/20 08:58 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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Enjoyable! Thanks for sharing.
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#600208 - 06/02/20 12:54 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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Around the 17:30 mark he said what I have told my students and that is learn theory, practice scales, modes, etc, but don't let it get in the way of your playing. Play from your heart then use theory to see what you have played.

The bottom line is that you don't need to know theory to play but when playing you are actually using theory. The Beatles are a perfect example of that.
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#600250 - 06/03/20 01:16 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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Malcolm Gladwell talks about the Beatles in his book 'Outliers' and their time in Hamburg when they got a huge amount of practice in. Gladwell is into the 10,000 hours practice to become a professional. Fascinating book. They went to Hamburg as mediocre musicians who were not initially accepted for the gig and came back the greatest rock and roll band in the world according to them and the Author. Gladwell's books are very worthwhile. No idea if it's true of course but it's a great read and inspiring.

Gladwell explains that reaching the 10,000-Hour Rule, which he considers the key to success in any field, is simply a matter of practicing a specific task that can be accomplished with 20 hours of work a week for 10 years.
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#607261 - 07/20/20 04:55 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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Perhaps my favorite bit (slightly longer quote) is from Paul:

Quote:
Writing a song out with George Martin was nearly always the same process. For ‘Yesterday’ he had said, ‘Look, why don’t you come round to my house tomorrow? I’ve got a piano, and I’ve got the manuscript paper. We’ll sit down for an hour or so, and you can let me know what you’re looking for’…

He would say, ‘This is the way to do the harmony, technically.’ And I’d often try to go against that. I’d think, ‘Well, why should there be a proper way to do it?’

‘Yesterday’ was typical. I remember suggesting the 7th that appears on the cello. George said, ‘You definitely wouldn’t have that in there. That would be very un-string-quartet. I said, ‘Well? Whack it in, George. I’ve got to have it.’


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#607292 - 07/20/20 09:03 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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I remember reading a quote from Paul regarding Yesterday.
He said he agonised over it,(plagiarism) because he couldn't believe no-one had written it before.
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#610461 - 08/12/20 05:45 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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I find stuff like this really fascinating. Thanks for sharing. smile
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#610498 - 08/13/20 02:33 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: How much music theory did the Beatles really know [Re: pghboemike]
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My take: The Beatles actually didn't know what they really did know.
And don't forget: great guidance from George Martin pulled it all together.
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