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#612123 - 08/25/20 02:10 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade!
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After an upgrade the style list will not function properly unless I do a rebuild so please just do it automatically! I spent several minutes tonight after upgrading trying to sort the list of styles and I totally missed the little message saying sorting cannot happen until I rebuild.

Please just rebuild the list automatically!

And, to all of those poised to reply "It has already been requested!", yes, I know! Maybe another request will help!

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#612127 - 08/25/20 03:44 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Pleased to offer another +1
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#612140 - 08/25/20 05:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Agreed. Yes, I’ve been saying this for awhile. I suggested an automatic Fast Rebuild. Jford pointed out the Slow Rebuild, which includes third party styles, is nearly as fast. So

+1

for an automatic Slow Rebuild after any update that contains new styles or tracks.
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#612156 - 08/25/20 06:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: Matt Finley]
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+1 for a slow rebuild.

Maybe after an install a window could pop up offering three options; no rebuild, fast rebuild, and slow rebuild. Or maybe just the latter two options.
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#612173 - 08/25/20 08:44 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Mario, John convinced me, “slow is the way to go”.

As a famous company says, “Just do it”.

Of course, only on updates that need it. Not all patches contain new tracks or styles.
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#612194 - 08/25/20 01:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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I suspect that whole fast/slow thing is a remnant from a time period when we used steam-powered computers! On my nothing-special-middle-of-the-road computer the slow and fast are about the same amount of time.

Just do a complete rebuild automatically when I upgrade instead of detecting I need it and telling me to do it! As Matt said "Just do it".

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#612245 - 08/25/20 06:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Mario, John convinced me, “slow is the way to go”.

As a famous company says, “Just do it”.

Of course, only on updates that need it. Not all patches contain new tracks or styles.


Since I only do slow rebuilds I had no idea that the rebuild time was about the same as a fast rebuild.

So slow it is!
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#612250 - 08/25/20 07:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: MarioD]
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I don't really know what the time difference would be, but if 7,000+ integrated styles fast rebuilds in around 30 seconds, then the slow build can't take much longer, unless of course someone has thousands of user styles.

Build the lot: +1
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#612664 - 08/28/20 02:12 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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#612710 - 08/28/20 06:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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#612759 - 08/29/20 05:01 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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YES it's a real pain in the asss, I didn't install any new styles I just updated the the exe, can't it just leave the existing database alone and only rebuild if I ask it to.
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#612767 - 08/29/20 05:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Yes, do the update automatically.
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#613418 - 09/02/20 02:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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#613423 - 09/02/20 03:20 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Look, I just went to sort by Genre and...


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#613461 - 09/02/20 11:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: Pipeline]
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Yes, another vote for automation.
It seems that if the system cannot operate correctly without the rebuild, then it should be performed automatically by the system, not manually by the user.

+1
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#613501 - 09/03/20 06:25 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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I would like an option to just rebuild the user styles. I have less than 50 user styles that I change occasionally. When I do, however, I don't need to rebuild the PGM styles, just mine. It doesn't take long, I know, but it just seems unnecessary.

One more style wish - give us the ability to have our user styles in a separate sub-folders of the main STYLES folder. It would be so much easier to manage
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#613545 - 09/03/20 09:57 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Dave,

+1 for both of your ideas.

I worry the impact of your request will become diminished as it is buried inside this post. I will be happy to support your post again should you start a new post.
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#613576 - 09/03/20 01:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: Jim Fogle]
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I am sure I have in the distant past requested both. Obviously neither has gained traction with PGM.

Both, I suspect were introduced with the new style picker - shame.
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#619317 - 10/16/20 11:43 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Please Just Rebuild the Style List Automatically After An Upgrade! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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