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#616080 - 09/21/20 07:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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I have come up with several handles for Floyd, including..............The Godfather of the Forum, The chairman of the board (Yes, I stole that but he deserves it!). Floyd is one of my favorite songwriters not just on the forum, but in the world!! He has been a mentor, a partner, a great supporter, and a true friend! It is a great honor to collaborate with him, and he also has a much better feel for what works in country than I do! Thanks my friend, and thanks to all who listen and comment!! Take care, Greg

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#616084 - 09/21/20 07:52 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Greg Johnson]
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Good points about Floyd, Greg, but don't think you're going to sell yourself short and get away with it grin
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#616111 - 09/22/20 07:00 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Al-David
Floyd and Greg ...

Well, I thought Waylon Jennings passed away a few years ago ... guess I was wrong. Well, I was right about that, but this sounds as though he were still with us and recording. Sure does come across as a Willie & Waylon creation and delivery ... kinda reminds me of "Good Hearted Woman".

Excellent in every way ... you gentlemen hit the sweet spot on this. It's always a pleasure when two of the very best on the site share combine for some super listening. Well done!

Best to both of you. Be safe ...

Alan


Thanks, Alan. Always good to know that folks who know a genre well think you "got it right"... smile


Originally Posted By: dcuny
Great write, excellent mix, and fun to listen to! laugh

Loved the rhythmic phrasing pauses - it made an already excellent song that much more interesting. It said to me that while this might sound classic, but wasn't just a copycat. The writer really knows the style.

Key change was effective.

With the steady beat, the song felt like a well-oiled machine. The attitude of the song comes through clearly, with vocals world-weary but not apologetic.


David - thanks for stopping by! You kind of hit on all the things that are hallmarks of the Outlaw style - the rhythmic phrasing, world-weary vocals, a steady beat (they usually kept the production simple and chugging along) - and, of course, the key change - almost on Outlaw cliche...

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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Loved this collaboration. Awesome vocal. Very cool lyric. Was that Greg on the harmony. It was so well blended. Guitar was cool as well. Well done Greg and Floyd


Thanks, Scott. We appreciate that. The harmony was generated using RealBand (I explained how in the response to Dave - above).

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#616150 - 09/22/20 02:49 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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The Waylon vibe is nailed with a feel of both Good Hearted Woman and I've Always Been Crazy.

If ya wanna go outlaw he's THE. MAN.

But what sets this apart is the more sophisticated lyric with more subtleties than typical with the sub-genre.

Excellent vocals and likely the best generated harmony we've heard, i.e., we never noticed!

The band ... what to say other than nailed. The rockabilly bass certainly adds to the "straw on the floor" vibe.

Janice said the loping feel made her want to get out her boots and cowgirl dress -- yes she has them smile

Cool outlaw in the picture -- somebody you know?

Fun!

J&B

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#616250 - 09/23/20 11:44 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
You guys definitely delivered.

There's just so much to like about this song.

Quality material
Quality production
Quality delivery

This collaboration is clearly one of the best we've witnessed.



Trev - Thanks! We could not ask for better comments than those...

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#616320 - 09/23/20 06:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Will Josef]
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Originally Posted By: Will Josef
Very cool song. As always an outstanding good mix and production. You are the one to learn from!


Will


Nice of you to say, Will... Thanks.

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#616371 - 09/24/20 06:19 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
FJ @ Greg
Congrats on this collaboration!
Very cool, fun & twisty lyrics! Composition and performance are top level.
Enjoyed it, and thank you for sharing.

Misha.


We appreciate that, Misha. Thanks.

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#616373 - 09/24/20 06:25 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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love it!

I immediately heard Haggard, then a few seconds later... Waylon. That's a great combination of influences in my humble opinion. They don't make music like that in Nashville any more.
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#616393 - 09/24/20 08:14 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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Nice!
Well written, performed and mixed.
Sounds very polished

Great work.
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#616544 - 09/25/20 07:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Deej56]
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Originally Posted By: Deej56
Floyd and Greg,

You definitely hit the mark in your aim. Real strong Waylon and Willie feel to this. If I had one suggestion lyrically it would be in that first line of the second verse: I’d consider subbing out “a month” for a “years” or “a year”. To me, month doesn’t seem quite a long enough absence to deserve mention. Use or lose, as they say.

Nice offering, fellas. Good luck with the pitch!

Best regards,

Deej


Deej,

I appreciate the suggestion. However...

A "month of Sundays" is a common expression.
Google it.
It is actually defined in the dictionary.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/month-of-sundays--a

Over half a year. Not worth mentioning?
You can google "a year of Sundays", too - and while you will find some hits, you should discover that it is not the common expression that "a month of Sundays" is.


As regards to songwriting...
Using a common expression such as "a month of Sundays" quickly puts an image into the listener's mind of "passage of time" - as opposed to saying "it's been a long time".
It also has the advantage of "singing well". It "falls on the ear" well, making it a good song-writing phrase.

"A year of Sundays" causes a "bump" to the ear - since it is not the common expression expected. Your listener's mind will head off on a tangent while you continue singing about some new development (hopefully - not rehashing something you have already established).
And this does not sing as well as the original expression.
All important considerations when writing.

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#616637 - 09/26/20 06:52 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: PeterF]
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Originally Posted By: Tangmo
Yep, 70's nailed, country nailed. Great set of lyrics free from modern country trope-ism. Hugely enjoyed.

Here's a true story. I'm listening about 2/3 through and thinking to myself "I feel a key change coming." And, by God, no sooner had I thought it then one was delivered.

Any production notes I might have would probably take it out of the 70's, so just know I dug this. All it needs is a jukebox or an audience.


We appreciate that, Tangmo. Had to do a key change - it was a part of almost every Outlaw song.

I left the production fairly simple and predictable throughout - those guys usually kept their stuff like that - they favored "the live band sound" to the slick Nashville thing that was happening at the time otherwise. Part of what gave rise to the movement...


Originally Posted By: Leon1
Hi Floyd and Greg
You guys nailed the brief, alright. Great lines (love 'man on a mission/dangerous position' among many others), vocals and overall sound. Terrific collaboration.
Regards,
Leon


Thanks, Leon!


Originally Posted By: PeterF
floyd & Greg

Authentic(unsurprisingly)work, great melody, vocals and production.

Really nice chorus, very singable and melodic.

Overall I think it's about as good as it could and should be.

Peter


We certainly appreciate such nice comments, Peter!...

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#616762 - 09/26/20 10:59 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Birchwood]
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Originally Posted By: jptjptjpt
Sounds like it's coming out of the best era of country music (in my opinion). Good work to both of you. The band sounds good.


jpt3 - we appreciate that...


Originally Posted By: Birchwood
Hi Floyd and Greg,

This is typically a song for you, Floyd! I can even say only you can interpret this kind of songs like you did here (again).
Maybe it's your mission to sing these songs so well!
And let's not forget the lyrics. It's so nice to see with what simple words you can create such a clear picture! I'm almost jealous about that.

Thanks both,
Hans


Thanks for having a listen, Hans - and for the nice comments...

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#616809 - 09/27/20 07:34 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Greg Johnson]
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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
I have come up with several handles for Floyd, including..............The Godfather of the Forum, The chairman of the board (Yes, I stole that but he deserves it!). Floyd is one of my favorite songwriters not just on the forum, but in the world!! He has been a mentor, a partner, a great supporter, and a true friend! It is a great honor to collaborate with him, and he also has a much better feel for what works in country than I do! Thanks my friend, and thanks to all who listen and comment!! Take care, Greg


Greg - It is always a pleasure to work with you. In any fashion.

Those are some humbling comments.

I can honestly say that YOU are one of my favorite songwriters, as well. Both your "way with words" and you beautiful melodies are top-shelf and constantly amazing.

And I am pleased to call you "friend".

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#616822 - 09/27/20 10:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd & Greg,
Cool twang, relentless beat and a protagonist you have to like (and don`t want to mess with)- its a good song with many genre trademarks and , of course, an excellent vocal.
I appreciate the behind the scenes details on your use of the Helicon Harmonies, Floyd- I learnt something and can hear how well it works on this.
Well done to you both.

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#616941 - 09/28/20 11:28 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Good points about Floyd, Greg, but don't think you're going to sell yourself short and get away with it grin


Greg is one of the most humble great writers I've ever met. A rare quality.


Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
The Waylon vibe is nailed with a feel of both Good Hearted Woman and I've Always Been Crazy.

If ya wanna go outlaw he's THE. MAN.

But what sets this apart is the more sophisticated lyric with more subtleties than typical with the sub-genre.

Excellent vocals and likely the best generated harmony we've heard, i.e., we never noticed!

The band ... what to say other than nailed. The rockabilly bass certainly adds to the "straw on the floor" vibe.

Janice said the loping feel made her want to get out her boots and cowgirl dress -- yes she has them smile

Cool outlaw in the picture -- somebody you know?

Fun!

J&B


The Outlaw sound was distinctive. Glad you thought we hit that. And thanks for the mentions on the lyric, the harmony... and the bass (though that was BIAB's doing - one of the few times I've simply found the right Style and gone with it...).

I have no doubt that the girl is and always has been a real cowgirl. smile



Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
love it!

I immediately heard Haggard, then a few seconds later... Waylon. That's a great combination of influences in my humble opinion. They don't make music like that in Nashville any more.


Thanks, Herb. Figured you might like this one....

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#617057 - 09/29/20 07:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Robertkc]
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Originally Posted By: CaptainMoto
Nice!
Well written, performed and mixed.
Sounds very polished

Great work.


Thanks, Captain!


Originally Posted By: Robertkc
Floyd & Greg,
Cool twang, relentless beat and a protagonist you have to like (and don`t want to mess with)- its a good song with many genre trademarks and , of course, an excellent vocal.
I appreciate the behind the scenes details on your use of the Helicon Harmonies, Floyd- I learnt something and can hear how well it works on this.
Well done to you both.


Robert - We appreciate you dropping in for a listen. That low harmony is something that the harmony generator does well. I look forward to the day that generated high harmonies get less robotic...

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#617131 - 09/29/20 04:23 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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Fantastic stuff from two of the best, not just here on the forum, but anywhere. Thanks, guys!!
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#617148 - 09/29/20 05:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd,

Appreciate the thoughtful response to my suggestion. I’m familiar with the expression “a month of Sundays” now that you mention it—though I haven’t used or heard it in, well, a month of Sundays! smile So it just didn’t register with me as I listened to, read, and commented on the lyric the first time. But your explanation makes perfect sense and I agree “month of Sundays” is more singable than what I suggested. Again, good luck with this one.

Regards,

Deej

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#617177 - 09/30/20 12:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: floyd jane]
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floyd and Greg,

This is excellent. You've certainly managed to re-create 70s country. The lyrics and music journey were first class in all directions. I think I need to get back into creating music. Listening to this was inspiring.

Thank you for a a really enjoyable four minutes,
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#617237 - 09/30/20 07:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Man On A Mission (co-write w/ Greg Johnson) [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: TuneMonger
Fantastic stuff from two of the best, not just here on the forum, but anywhere. Thanks, guys!!


TM - we do appreciate that.


Originally Posted By: Deej56
Floyd,

Appreciate the thoughtful response to my suggestion. I’m familiar with the expression “a month of Sundays” now that you mention it—though I haven’t used or heard it in, well, a month of Sundays! smile So it just didn’t register with me as I listened to, read, and commented on the lyric the first time. But your explanation makes perfect sense and I agree “month of Sundays” is more singable than what I suggested. Again, good luck with this one.

Regards,

Deej


Deej - thanks for stopping in to further the discussion...


Originally Posted By: Noel96
floyd and Greg,

This is excellent. You've certainly managed to re-create 70s country. The lyrics and music journey were first class in all directions. I think I need to get back into creating music. Listening to this was inspiring.

Thank you for a a really enjoyable four minutes,
Noel


Noel - It is ALWAYS great to see you drop in to the Showcase. Thanks for the listen and nice comments. (Yes - it is time we heard another from you!!)

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