Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
I recently got a Roland E-A7 "Arranger" keyboard which, unlike my previous keyboard, uses a "USB-to-Host" method to connect to my computer for midi communications (my former kbd used the standard midi din plugs, btw).
Thing is, for some reason when I now try play the BBox midi style demo songs outputted to that keyboard, I'm only hearing some of its tracks via the keyboard and not for instance the Melody nor Soloist tracks. Or rather, I do sometimes hear them when muting all the others but very weakly, even after amping up the velocity levels & volume of those tracks.

Any thoughts or suggestions?


ooh, is that cake?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 9,833
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 9,833
Eddie,

I see the E-A7 is an Arranger keyboard. Band-in-a-Box assigns midi channel 4 to Melody, channel 8 to Soloist and 5 to THRU. Does the Roland assign any of it's default arranger patch channels to any of these?


Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1102) RB (Build 1) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
No, and If anything, it's all the channels it uses for the arranger that are sounding just fine. The channels it's not using for the arranger are exactly the ones that are giving me grief.
But in BBox it's pretty easy to change those channels to any of the available 16 channels you like, which I have absolutely been experimenting with without it having any discernible effect to remedy the problem.


ooh, is that cake?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Made this discovery: If the Melody/Soloist track has acoustic piano as the set sound,then it's heard, otherwise not.
Also, the keyboard appears to have gone 'dead' after I close BBox, but I've now discovered it kicks back in if I change the instrument.

My keyboard has no problems with this when I'm running it via Cubase et al, btw,so this problem is (most likely) something on the BBox that is failing to communicate the information, and not anything on the keyboard end.

In case anyone stumbles on this thread with ideas/suggestion, here's what I have already tried, without success:

1. Manually changing the transmitting channel of the troublesome tracks
2. Manually changing the instrument patch of the...
3. Activating/deactivating "GM/GS/XG at startup" in prefs (any & all combo of the three)
4. Initiate the "Reset Sound Canvas" (both versions)
5. Activating/deactivating "Local control" settings in prefs
6. Changing the "Track type"

...and I'm running out of ideas! smirk


ooh, is that cake?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,654
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,654
Hi Icelander,

Is Cubase sending Program Changes on each channel, or are you selecting the patches you want on the Roland?


Andrew
PG Music Inc.
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Patches are usually sent from the DAW and most often as a part of an imported midi file.
I'm glad you asked, though, for that reminded me of a detail on that subject I hadn't mentioned but may matter:

When the midi is being played and sent from a DAW (any DAW I tried), I can see on the LED of the keyboard the names of the patches it's receiving - but NOT when it's being played and sent from BBox! Then these same fields on the keyboard's LED are completely blank.

Last edited by Icelander; 12/03/20 08:22 AM. Reason: Further details

ooh, is that cake?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,764
Right, as much as I complain and [*****] when things go wrong, I thought for a change it worth to mention something gone right:

I don't know how or why (and quite frankly do not care) but somehow the 2021 release has resolved all of this, yayh!! laugh

So that's one thread/issue I'm pleased to be able to firmly mark as resolved cool


ooh, is that cake?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 9,833
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 9,833
Glad to see the issue is resolved.


Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1102) RB (Build 1) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Moderated by  Blake - PG Music 

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
RealBand 2024 is Here!

There are over 30 new features to RealBand 2024, including 256 available tracks, 32 VSTi/DXi synth instances, modern color scheme for some windows, Playable RealDrums support, new arrow buttons to change the current time, chord symbols to display in the Track window, 48 tracks to display in the Mixer, the ability to hide any extra masters or auxes in the Mixer, improved handling of VU levels in the Track window, better VU levels display when recording to mono tracks, song preview in the StylePicker, the ability to initiate track generation from the StylePicker, and much more!

RealBand 2024 is included with all Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Windows orders - and our 2024 upgrades are ON SALE until December 31st! Until then, save up to 50% - upgrade for as little as $49!

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows is here with over 50 new features and an amazing collection of new content, including 222 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 3, Playable RealDrums Set 2, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17, and more!

We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2023 - save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Upgrade!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2024 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 50 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade it to the 2024 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac is macOS Sonoma Compatible!

We're over the moon to announce that the latest Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac Build 707 is compatible with macOS Sonoma!

Refresh your Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac today with this free update to resolve visibility of notation in the Notation Window, apply smoother use of notation features, update to the Drums VU meter, and add the newest version of the DAW Plugin (5.5.13).

Learn more about Build 707 and download it here.

The Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Mac German, French, and Italian language patches have also been updated with Build 707! Download your Build 707 language patch here.

Revisit: Eyes on Success featuring PG Music Inc., Band-in-a-Box®, and the Updated JAWS Script

In the past, Eyes on Success featured an episode that discussed our company history and Band-in-a-Box® program with Tobin, our chief development officer, including how Band-in-a-Box® is even more accessible with the help of their JAWS screen reader scripts!

Later on this month, Eyes on Success will be releasing an episode that features Gudrun Brunot talking about her new tutorials about how to use Band-in-a-Box® with JAWS.

It's a great idea to pair the two episodes together!

So, while waiting for their Gudrun Brunot episode, take 30 minutes and to listen to this episode from Eyes on Success. To download and listen to the podcast, use the link www.EyesOnSuccess.net/eos_2344_podcast.mp3

Eyes on Success is a weekly radio show / podcast geared to the visually impaired called "Eyes On Success" and that can be found at www.EyesOnSuccess.net.

Find out more about the show and get links to past episodes at www.EyesOnSuccess.net

Find their podcast on iTunes or use the URL: www.EyesOnSuccess.net/eos_podcast

User Tip: How to add drum fills without changing any other tracks

MarioD has shared some great advice when it comes to adding drum fills without changing any other tracks in your song:

There have been a number of questions asking how to add drum fills without changing any other tracks in a song. This is especially important if one is holding a chord for a few measures and wants to add a drum fill prior to the next chord. The following is how to accomplish that:

1-get the instruments/tracks to play like you want but don't worry about the drums for now.
2-generate the song.
3-freeze all tracks
4-unfreeze the drum track
5-add your fills where you want them
6-generated the song again - note this will only generate the drum track and not the frozen tracks
7- when you get the drums like you want them freeze the track

Have your own program tip to share? Post it on our Tips & Tricks forum!

Review - Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Windows is Overflowing with Features!

Dennis posted his very thorough Band-in-a-Box® review recently, where he dives into some of the new features added with version 2023: Sound-Guy's Band-in-a-Box Review

Read his thoughts on the Download & Install Manager, partial track regeneration, Playable RealTracks, Audio Editing, the addition of SynthMaster, the VST DAW Plugin, and more!

"Band-in-a-Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is, without negative connotation, a monster of a program. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. No DAW can do some of the things BIAB does, while BIAB can do a lot that DAWs do."

Band-in-a-Box® Tutorials for Low-vision and Blind Program Users

Our friends at EyesFree_Tutorials have just released their Band-in-a-Box Tutorials, Bundle 2!

Created for low-vision and blind program users, this collection of Band-in-a-Box for Windows tutorials includes 31 audio instruction files and 19 music files for practice, plus help documents. Specific topics include "ABACA, let's make a song form," "Recording melody and lead-in," "Playing and editing: part markers; the handy clipboard. The play function. Search and replace," and more!

Learn more about their new tutorials, and connect with Roy & Gudrun to order the Band-in-a-Box Tutorials, Bundle 2 here.

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics79,995
Posts715,668
Members38,109
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
dgk, Pogwolly, cram-naej, guitare, Rimbert
38,109 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
Rob Helms 405
jpettit 332
DrDan 203
musocity 198
Al-David 191
Noel96 183
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5