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I broke a heart once. Here is the story. THE SILENCE it's a quarter past a late hour most the lights are gone along with those who have the sense but i'm still hanging on not far down the block i see in the night a bit of dawn from the second floor apartment of another hanger-on lonliness ain't quite so bad when you know you're not alone the silence helps you hurt a little more the light from the window's familiar but it didn't use to cry i hang my head to the things it says 'cause i'm the reason why there's a river of pain flowing by my door and half the tears are mine it's hard to see how i could be so foolish and so unkind but the fault must lie somewhere between so, she's half of who's to blame and the silence helps her hurt a little more it's a quarter past an early hour still the cries are heard pouring shadows down into the street sharp, accusing words sometimes i fear i might go back it's hard to stay away but i sit and watch the light stay on and try to keep out of its way loneliness is twice as hard 'cause i know that she's alone the silence helps me hurt a little more ©1977 floyd jane The BAND parts: EZKeys tracks MIDI SuperTracks in song: 2066:Piano, Rhythm NewAgeAnswers Ev16 110 MIDI SuperTracks in song: 2831:Piano, Rhythm GospelSlowBalladMike Ev 085 RealTracks in song: 1856:Cello, Background PopCountry Ev 085 RealTracks in song: 2338:Violin, Background, PopLow Ev 085 (1TrackStringSection) RealTracks in song: 2337:Violin, Background, PopHigh Ev 085 (1TrackStringSection) I created a strings track and a flute track using Spitfire BBC Orchestra Harmonies created in RealBand using Helicon plugin Me: lyrics, music, vocal, production, strings, flute, mix, master, art work Comments of any kind... Have at it. fj
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Nice one.... kinda reminds me of Jackson Brown with the piano as the main instrument.
You done good on the production and choice of instruments.
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Lovely work on the backing, expertly arranged and produced. The piano sounded great and the strings were very genre specific.
Sad lyric matched by the evocative music and a vocal that is nicely emotive.
Wonderful songwriting.
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A lovely song, yes a bit Jackson brown but a lot fj. There're a few spots where the vocal & harmony are aggressive like on "the light..." usually the 1st couple of syllables of a phrase. That could be left as is or a tiny bit of level automation could temper it. You did a fab job with a sparse arrangement and dynamic textures. Excellent - as usual.
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Really good, floyd, as per usual Those harmonies ... magnificent! I'll need to research Helicon. And the vocal overall sounds fabulous, nice and warm, just the right amount of presence. Piano sounds great too, are you running the MIDI SuperTrack through EZKeys? Also really like the cello and strings. Songwriting at it's best, loved it.
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A 1977 write. Had me wonder how close to the original version what we hear in 2020 remains? A walk with no destination on a journey that never ends... Perfect setting for loneliness and silence. Enjoyed my listen.
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I also noticed, right off the bat, that this is work that was done a long time ago, so I was immediately interested in hearing the “early” Floyd. I especially liked that your stanzas ended with an impersonal “you” , then “she”, and finally “me”..a kind of progressively-personalizing reflection. And you had some really nice intra-line rhymes..to me, these are like little verbal Velcro hooks that keep you listening closely. As others have said, the musical setting and performance are top-notch...the only thing I would have done differently is maybe a vocal repeat of that last phrase, but that’s just personal preference...excellent! PS..I’ll add my vote to some feedback on how this might be different from your 1977 performance of same.
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Nothing not to like here as usual Floyd. Lovely sound and poignant lyric.
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Very, very well done. I find it fascinating when users post old songs they wrote, re-imagined with Band-in-a-Box. You wrote this over 40 years ago and it still holds up - thanks for sharing
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I love this one, Floyd. It's genuine and emotional and your telling of it draws the listener in.
The vocal performance has to be one of your best. The blend of your voice and the piano is just right, especially in those critical first few seconds, and there's a spaciousness too that's pleasing and natural that fits the setting.
From the first lyric I was like, 'Wow! This is good!'
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Can't say enough. Just excellent should do it!
Well told story. Delivered with skill and emotion.
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Floyd, Beautiful and heartfelt songwriting. The story, internal as it is, has a nice arc with the subtle changes on the chorus last lines reminding there are real changing lives involved. A fine simple arrangement and clear strong vocals; its all very, very good!
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Such an emotionally-gripping, poignant song. This one goes on my list of top Floyd songs. Beautifully arranged and performed.
You broke a heart once? Just once?
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You're always such a good story teller! Thanks for taking the time to share this one with us.
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Floyd ...
I'll keep it simple, like your song.
Emotional.
A simplicity that says it all.
A bold truth.
Every single thing it needs and not the slight of what it doesn't.
Captivating, both musically and lyrically.
That pretty much says it all for me. Best to you and yours and please be safe.
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Floyd,
Really pretty, really poignant. Excellent production—just the right balance and touches. Would be really curious to hear more about how this song may have evolved from its original 1977 write given the passage of time. Great stuff!
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Nice one.... kinda reminds me of Jackson Brown with the piano as the main instrument.
You done good on the production and choice of instruments. Thanks, Herb. floyd
Lovely work on the backing, expertly arranged and produced. The piano sounded great and the strings were very genre specific.
Sad lyric matched by the evocative music and a vocal that is nicely emotive.
Wonderful songwriting.
Peter Thanks for the super comments, Peter...
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Good write, as usual - even for a 40+ year old song. The change of POV through the verses was notable. The sparse instrumentation worked for me - the additional instrumentation were subtle and didn't distract. The only nit was the harmonies - they were perhaps a bit too close rhythmically. These days, anything too perfect calls attention to itself as sounding unnatural. I enjoyed the song, which is really the important bit.
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Great song that reminded me a bit of Dan Fogelberg's Same Old Lang Syne. I liked everything about this one, including the harmonies. Superb work as always.
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The way you can tell/sing a story is amazing. 1977-memories? It makes many of us curious of what really happened. Fantastic work, Floyd! Will
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Had a listen to this a couple of days ago when you put it up on SoundCloud. Lovely song Floyd. Beautiful vocal and lyric. Piano was a perfect choice to frame your vocal
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A lovely song, yes a bit Jackson brown but a lot fj. There're a few spots where the vocal & harmony are aggressive like on "the light..." usually the 1st couple of syllables of a phrase. That could be left as is or a tiny bit of level automation could temper it. You did a fab job with a sparse arrangement and dynamic textures. Excellent - as usual. ray - you "keep me on my toes" regarding vocals. And I appreciate that. I often walk through a vocal reducing every instance of siblance manually - because otherwise "ray will call me on it!" (and it turns out to be worth the effort). I hear the bumps that you refer to. One more thing I'll have to keep an eye (ear) on. I've been trying different set ups for vocals lately - looking for something that I haven't found yet. Changing hardware settings and software plugins... Really good, floyd, as per usual Those harmonies ... magnificent! I'll need to research Helicon. And the vocal overall sounds fabulous, nice and warm, just the right amount of presence. Piano sounds great too, are you running the MIDI SuperTrack through EZKeys? Also really like the cello and strings. Songwriting at it's best, loved it. Thanks, Dave! Yes...all the piano tracks are generated using the same EZKeys module - in this case the Grand piano. I had to export the EZKeys generated parts from the stand alone as a wav file because the MIDI export changed tempos when I dropped it into Studio One (researched it online and could not find an answer to correct it). And then import the MSTs from BIAB and drop the EZKeys Grand on them. I have the Studio Grand, too. It cuts through a big mix better than the Grand, but the Grand has a nice warmth that is better for this type vocal/piano song. I have used the Upright for other vocal/piano songs. And in one I just finished, I used the Dream Machine and the Grand (I played those parts via a Yamaha digital piano as a controller...)
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Hi Floyd,
I gave this a listen a few days ago but didn't have a chance to post a reply...
May I add another title to the many I have given you on this board? I hereby dub thee "the Troubadour of Troubled Relationships"...
"still the cries are heard pouring shadows down into the street sharp, accusing words sometimes I fear I might go back it's hard to stay away"
Wow, does this ever paint a vivid and sobering picture
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Sir ... my most sincere of congratulations. You have really broken the barrier of the high standard you yourself set.
I love how you almost whisper the key lyrics. "The silence helps you hurt a little more" is just the perfect lyric - I, too, love how you switch from "you", to "her" and finally to "me".
Easily the best I've heard from you. SO sensitively sung. Harmonies, etc., are perfect - that goes without saying. The sensitivity of it all is the key to it, though. You have a talent of telling a story, of articulating what we mere mortals fumble to - and often over-complicate. You just go out there and say it ... and it works.
The greatest thing, the greatest compliment I can say and give about this song is this: I can relate.
Thank you for creating this song, for having the courage to write like this when most of us would rather hide.
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Hi Floyd Well written and beautifully sung. The arrangement and mix sound great to me. Regards, Leon
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Lovely song. Well written and well sung. Obviously (from the copyright date), this song was written when an artist could express more than shallow feelings about drinking beer on a Caribbean island. Great use of the band. I absolutely love the album cover art work. If that's you too than I am really blown away.
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Hello floyd jane,
Superb composition. Sweet as you wish by your voice and with a superb arrangement. I loved the violin in the background. Loneliness, evil of our cities, is very well expressed in your lyrics. Well done.
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A 1977 write. Had me wonder how close to the original version what we hear in 2020 remains? A walk with no destination on a journey that never ends... Perfect setting for loneliness and silence. Enjoyed my listen. I also noticed, right off the bat, that this is work that was done a long time ago, so I was immediately interested in hearing the “early” Floyd. I especially liked that your stanzas ended with an impersonal “you” , then “she”, and finally “me”..a kind of progressively-personalizing reflection. And you had some really nice intra-line rhymes..to me, these are like little verbal Velcro hooks that keep you listening closely. As others have said, the musical setting and performance are top-notch...the only thing I would have done differently is maybe a vocal repeat of that last phrase, but that’s just personal preference...excellent! PS..I’ll add my vote to some feedback on how this might be different from your 1977 performance of same. Charlie and Tano - thanks for having a listen... The song is pretty much as I wrote it in '77 with a couple tweaks to the lyric. When I decided to record this, I hadn't played it for probably 30 years and when I did play, there were 2 spots in the lyric that didn't sit right for me now. Both in the last verse. Originally: "pouring shadows down into the street in accusing, painful words" ...sounded like the young developing writer that I was at the time. Too wordy and a bit over dramatic. So that I changed: "pouring shadows down into the street sharp, accusing words..." (even that made me wince a little). Originally: "but i sit and watch the light stay on as it waits to meet the day" ...again sounded like an "early over-poetic" writer. So that became: "but i sit and watch the light stay on and try to keep out of its way" ...which I liked a bunch better. It gives more depth to the story at that point. Of course, the original was always played with just a guitar. Being able to add the BAND really helped to bring the song to life (to my ears) Thanks for asking!
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Nothing not to like here as usual Floyd. Lovely sound and poignant lyric.
Vic Thanks, Vic. Very, very well done. I find it fascinating when users post old songs they wrote, re-imagined with Band-in-a-Box. You wrote this over 40 years ago and it still holds up - thanks for sharing Deryk - nice of you to drop by. And it is nice to have folks think that a 40 year old song still works...
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"there's a river of pain flowing by my door and half the tears are mine"
Trying to pull a favorite line out of this write is an exercise in futility -- the above is so strong.
The imagery throughout is overwhelmingly good. Heck the first line grabbed us. "...Quarter past a late hour." So many would just write that it's late or specify an hour. Another phrase that struck us is a "bit of dawn" which is so easy to picture as a magnificent still shot.
A number of sad songs show up on our playlists but they are so rarely if ever this thought provoking.
We could go on and on. It's an amazing write.
The piano is perfecto as it nails the mood and is very complementary to your excellent vocal. As Janice says, "I always love even more hearing him sing with a piano."
You certainly know how to pick those MSTs, and RTs (that cello!) and your created tracks were very nice.
And your most tasteful artwork fit the mood well.
Masterful!
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First off, this is beautiful. Vocals, arrangement, band, production and mix. All top-notch.
Secondly, thanks for not going where most songs like this go. Hurting a little LESS never cured anybody. Hurting a little MORE is what changes hearts. POWERFUL!
Lastly, I love this.
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Hi Floyd,
What a nice song you made all those years ago! Very sensitive lyrics and brought by you in a marvelous way. Poignant!
It was interesting to hear how you dealt with the harmonies with the use of Helicon. You did very well with it. The harmonies sounded naturall, and that is not always the case with Harmony-software like Helicon or Altares. I used them as well, but focussing on Melodyne now. But whatever, you made and performed very well on this so sad song, although you always do!
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Floyd,
This is a really gorgeous song. I love this.
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I love this one, Floyd. It's genuine and emotional and your telling of it draws the listener in.
The vocal performance has to be one of your best. The blend of your voice and the piano is just right, especially in those critical first few seconds, and there's a spaciousness too that's pleasing and natural that fits the setting.
From the first lyric I was like, 'Wow! This is good!' Scott - thanks for that very generous review! Can't say enough. Just excellent should do it!
Well told story. Delivered with skill and emotion. Thanks, Captain! Floyd, Beautiful and heartfelt songwriting. The story, internal as it is, has a nice arc with the subtle changes on the chorus last lines reminding there are real changing lives involved. A fine simple arrangement and clear strong vocals; its all very, very good!
Robert I really appreciate that, Robert... Thanks!
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Unquestionably classic quality.
Check the lyrics.
Listen to the vocals and harmonies.
Examine the simplicity of the backing, which evokes enormous richness in the overall delivery.
Not a single note was missing, not a single note was left wanting. Anywhere.
Classic quality. Have to say it again.
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Floyd - That's a good one. It's got your signature style and tone. Your facility with language and lyrics is always impressive. The song deftly creates an atmosphere of heartache and the descriptions in the lyrics create strong images. As always, a really solid mix and production.
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Such an emotionally-gripping, poignant song. This one goes on my list of top Floyd songs. Beautifully arranged and performed.
You broke a heart once? Just once? Thanks, Scott. (I think just this once ) You're always such a good story teller! Thanks for taking the time to share this one with us. Nice of you to drop by, Ember... Thanks! Floyd ...
I'll keep it simple, like your song.
Emotional.
A simplicity that says it all.
A bold truth.
Every single thing it needs and not the slight of what it doesn't.
Captivating, both musically and lyrically.
That pretty much says it all for me. Best to you and yours and please be safe.
Alan Thanks for the fine review, Alan...
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Floyd,
Really pretty, really poignant. Excellent production—just the right balance and touches. Would be really curious to hear more about how this song may have evolved from its original 1977 write given the passage of time. Great stuff!
All my best,
Deej Thanks, Deej. Check my answer to Charlie and Tano for that explanation of the couple of changes I made to the original.... Good write, as usual - even for a 40+ year old song. The change of POV through the verses was notable. The sparse instrumentation worked for me - the additional instrumentation were subtle and didn't distract. The only nit was the harmonies - they were perhaps a bit too close rhythmically. These days, anything too perfect calls attention to itself as sounding unnatural. I enjoyed the song, which is really the important bit. David - I always look forward to reading your thoughts on a song and the particulars of the production. Always. Thanks. An interesting assessment of "too tight" harmonies. I find just the opposite - although I agree they can seem "too perfect" at times, it is a hallmark of a lot of today's music. Particularly Pop and "modern" Country. Harmonies are VERY tight. Often generated (it seems) and when they are sung, software is used to make them fall right on top of each other - with a tight rhythmic follow. VocALign will do amazing things - if that is the sound you are after, of course. I'd love to try it, but at $400 for the PRO version and the need for an iLok USB key (and the fact it is not supported in Studio One until version 3) mean that I won't be going there...
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Just...........BEAUTIFUL!!!! Tears at the heart in the best way!!! Melancholy songs are always my favorite and you wrote a doozy here!!!! Beautiful arrangement and vocal to top of a great song!! AMAZING my friend!!!
I never broke a heart.......only ever had 2 serious girlfriends......first one dumped me and broke my heart (and provided a lifetime of material for sad songs) and I married the second one! Well, maybe I broke her heart, or at least wore it out, by staying with her all these years!
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Great song that reminded me a bit of Dan Fogelberg's Same Old Lang Syne. I liked everything about this one, including the harmonies. Superb work as always. TM - thanks! Nice to be reminded of Dan Folgelberg - had not heard his name for a while, so it sent me down memory lane (and a Youtube rabbit hole )... The way you can tell/sing a story is amazing. 1977-memories? It makes many of us curious of what really happened. Fantastic work, Floyd! Will Thanks for stopping by, Will. Like I said...I did break a heart... not proud of it. We'll leave the details somewhat nebulous.
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Had a listen to this a couple of days ago when you put it up on SoundCloud. Lovely song Floyd. Beautiful vocal and lyric. Piano was a perfect choice to frame your vocal Thanks, Scott! Hi Floyd,
I gave this a listen a few days ago but didn't have a chance to post a reply...
May I add another title to the many I have given you on this board? I hereby dub thee "the Troubadour of Troubled Relationships"...
"still the cries are heard pouring shadows down into the street sharp, accusing words sometimes I fear I might go back it's hard to stay away"
Wow, does this ever paint a vivid and sobering picture HA! (I've been called worse things) Always nice to have someone quote a line or two... Thanks, Bawb...
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Sir ... my most sincere of congratulations. You have really broken the barrier of the high standard you yourself set.
I love how you almost whisper the key lyrics. "The silence helps you hurt a little more" is just the perfect lyric - I, too, love how you switch from "you", to "her" and finally to "me".
Easily the best I've heard from you. SO sensitively sung. Harmonies, etc., are perfect - that goes without saying. The sensitivity of it all is the key to it, though. You have a talent of telling a story, of articulating what we mere mortals fumble to - and often over-complicate. You just go out there and say it ... and it works.
The greatest thing, the greatest compliment I can say and give about this song is this: I can relate.
Thank you for creating this song, for having the courage to write like this when most of us would rather hide. James - thanks for the great review... Hi Floyd Well written and beautifully sung. The arrangement and mix sound great to me. Regards, Leon Thanks, Leon... Lovely song. Well written and well sung. Obviously (from the copyright date), this song was written when an artist could express more than shallow feelings about drinking beer on a Caribbean island. Great use of the band. I absolutely love the album cover art work. If that's you too than I am really blown away. J - thanks. Yes, the cover art is a piece I did. I do abstracts occasionally. I appreciate the mention...
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hi floyd very memorable and dynamic love it well done Eric
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It might have been written a few decades ago but this song has a timeless quality. Great job, Floyd.
My music may not set the world on fire but if it causes a glow in just one person's heart, it has all been worthwhile
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A wonderful song, Floyd!
You keep the arrangement simple and open, let the words bleed out its own pain. Why does a broken heart create such a lovely music? 1977 – still timeless. The world changes rapidly, but the human hearts remains the same. We still need each other!
Great vocal production. The 2nd vox is great even though a Helicon is involved ;-) Is there a -77 version of this song? Would love to hear it. Thanks for sharing!
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FJ, Beautiful ballad. Smooth and sad. 40+ years young, wow! I am scared of re-doing things I wrote 5 years ago Good lyrics! Excellent vocals by themselves, and that Helicon plug really brought them level up. Production is top notch. Listens very well. If I could suggest something, I would, but it is whole to my ears. Thank you for sharing. Misha.
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The sound of your production is up-close and personal and, therefore, intense. Your vocal registers regret, remorse. I believe you when you say you 'broke a heart once', but you didn't even have to introduce that fact because the evidence of the truth of that confession is right there deep down in the bones of the song's fragile lyrics. Memorable and moody strings and flute arrangement, too. A stand-out recording musically and lyrically.
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Hello floyd jane,
Superb composition. Sweet as you wish by your voice and with a superb arrangement. I loved the violin in the background. Loneliness, evil of our cities, is very well expressed in your lyrics. Well done.
Kindly regard
alias JaniJackFlash Thanks for the fine review, Dero... "there's a river of pain flowing by my door and half the tears are mine"
Trying to pull a favorite line out of this write is an exercise in futility -- the above is so strong.
The imagery throughout is overwhelmingly good. Heck the first line grabbed us. "...Quarter past a late hour." So many would just write that it's late or specify an hour. Another phrase that struck us is a "bit of dawn" which is so easy to picture as a magnificent still shot.
A number of sad songs show up on our playlists but they are so rarely if ever this thought provoking.
We could go on and on. It's an amazing write.
The piano is perfecto as it nails the mood and is very complementary to your excellent vocal. As Janice says, "I always love even more hearing him sing with a piano."
You certainly know how to pick those MSTs, and RTs (that cello!) and your created tracks were very nice.
And your most tasteful artwork fit the mood well.
Masterful!
J&B
J&B - Much Thanks for the nice words. Appreciate the comments on the writing and the production (and the artwork! )
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First off, this is beautiful. Vocals, arrangement, band, production and mix. All top-notch.
Secondly, thanks for not going where most songs like this go. Hurting a little LESS never cured anybody. Hurting a little MORE is what changes hearts. POWERFUL!
Lastly, I love this. Thanks, Tangmo. All nice things to hear... Hi Floyd,
What a nice song you made all those years ago! Very sensitive lyrics and brought by you in a marvelous way. Poignant!
It was interesting to hear how you dealt with the harmonies with the use of Helicon. You did very well with it. The harmonies sounded naturall, and that is not always the case with Harmony-software like Helicon or Altares. I used them as well, but focussing on Melodyne now. But whatever, you made and performed very well on this so sad song, although you always do!
Hans
Thanks, Hans. After hearing your Melodyne harmonies, I've been thinking of trying those as well... Floyd,
This is a really gorgeous song. I love this.
Mr. David Snyder! Always good to see you drop in. Really miss hearing your music on a regular basis... Come back to us, son.... Unquestionably classic quality.
Check the lyrics.
Listen to the vocals and harmonies.
Examine the simplicity of the backing, which evokes enormous richness in the overall delivery.
Not a single note was missing, not a single note was left wanting. Anywhere.
Classic quality. Have to say it again.
Trev - you put a smile on my face! Thanks for all those very nice comments...
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Floyd - That's a good one. It's got your signature style and tone. Your facility with language and lyrics is always impressive. The song deftly creates an atmosphere of heartache and the descriptions in the lyrics create strong images. As always, a really solid mix and production. Thanks for all the nice comments, Ed... Just...........BEAUTIFUL!!!! Tears at the heart in the best way!!! Melancholy songs are always my favorite and you wrote a doozy here!!!! Beautiful arrangement and vocal to top of a great song!! AMAZING my friend!!!
I never broke a heart.......only ever had 2 serious girlfriends......first one dumped me and broke my heart (and provided a lifetime of material for sad songs) and I married the second one! Well, maybe I broke her heart, or at least wore it out, by staying with her all these years!
Take care. Greg Greg - Thanks for all the great comments... hi floyd very memorable and dynamic love it well done Eric Thanks for dropping by, eric... It might have been written a few decades ago but this song has a timeless quality. Great job, Floyd. I appreciate that, Brian...Thanks.... A wonderful song, Floyd!
You keep the arrangement simple and open, let the words bleed out its own pain. Why does a broken heart create such a lovely music? 1977 – still timeless. The world changes rapidly, but the human hearts remains the same. We still need each other!
Great vocal production. The 2nd vox is great even though a Helicon is involved ;-) Is there a -77 version of this song? Would love to hear it. Thanks for sharing! Einar - Thanks so much! I looked through all the old cassette tapes stored in the closet, but could not find a recording of this. I'm sure there was one and it might be buried deep inside one of those tapes, but I could not find it....
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FJ, Beautiful ballad. Smooth and sad. 40+ years young, wow! I am scared of re-doing things I wrote 5 years ago Good lyrics! Excellent vocals by themselves, and that Helicon plug really brought them level up. Production is top notch. Listens very well. If I could suggest something, I would, but it is whole to my ears. Thank you for sharing. Misha. Misha - thanks for the very fine comments. The sound of your production is up-close and personal and, therefore, intense. Your vocal registers regret, remorse. I believe you when you say you 'broke a heart once', but you didn't even have to introduce that fact because the evidence of the truth of that confession is right there deep down in the bones of the song's fragile lyrics. Memorable and moody strings and flute arrangement, too. A stand-out recording musically and lyrically.
Ardent - I appreciate the nice review. Thanks for stopping by...
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Hi floyd,
Your words and your arrangement carried me back in time.
This song reminds me so much of what my life was about when I was in my late teens and early twenties, and trying to make sense of how the adult world worked. A couple of very serious relationships really took their toll on me. Even now, looking back 40 years later, I so clearly remember that "...bit of dawn from the second floor apartment" and all the angst and heatbreak I felt at the time.
This is very powerful songwriting. I especially like that last line of each verse that doesn't rhyme. It's such a skillful way of evoking feelings of emotional insecurity in a listener.
I'm grateful for the journey that you just took me on. Sometimes, being able to look at the past the 20/20 hindsight is soothing.
Thank you. Noel
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Hi Floyd,
Had me reaching for the Kleenex halfway through the first verse.
A fabulous piano sound and super arrangement with the string line coming in at all the right places.
Your wonderful signature vocal and nicely balanced harmony didn't disappoint.
Another classic.
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Been there, done that, Floyd. So sad, so stupid. But thats Life. Beautifully done even if it brought back memories I'd have sooner tried to forget. Superb. Ian
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Hi floyd,
Your words and your arrangement carried me back in time.
This song reminds me so much of what my life was about when I was in my late teens and early twenties, and trying to make sense of how the adult world worked. A couple of very serious relationships really took their toll on me. Even now, looking back 40 years later, I so clearly remember that "...bit of dawn from the second floor apartment" and all the angst and heatbreak I felt at the time.
This is very powerful songwriting. I especially like that last line of each verse that doesn't rhyme. It's such a skillful way of evoking feelings of emotional insecurity in a listener.
I'm grateful for the journey that you just took me on. Sometimes, being able to look at the past the 20/20 hindsight is soothing.
Thank you. Noel Noel - good to have you drop by. Hope all is well with you! It is always nice to know that a listener can relate to what we are "putting on the page"... Hi Floyd,
Had me reaching for the Kleenex halfway through the first verse.
A fabulous piano sound and super arrangement with the string line coming in at all the right places.
Your wonderful signature vocal and nicely balanced harmony didn't disappoint.
Another classic.
ROG. ROG - you're such a softie... Thanks for the nice comments... Been there, done that, Floyd. So sad, so stupid. But thats Life. Beautifully done even if it brought back memories I'd have sooner tried to forget. Superb. Ian Ian! Nice to see you drop in for a listen. Thanks! You come to mind every time we are in AMI (was just there this past weekend).
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