|
|
|
|
#618712 - 10/11/20 02:25 PM
[Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production]
How do I tame an Acoustic Bass in my mix and mastering?
|
|
Registered: 05/19/16
Posts: 108
Loc: Denmark
Apprentice
Registered: 05/19/16
Posts: 108
Loc: Denmark
|
Hi,
I have a track where I use Real Track - 776 Bass, Acoustic, PopWaltz 085 in the key of E Major.
My problem is, that it cuts through the mix like a bull dozer - I have setup a channel strip with:
Multi Compressor (to deal with 0-230 hz and 230-1230 hz -using a 2.5 compress ratio)
Sculptor (iZotope plugin)
EQ (a cut in 300-500hz and a raise at 2700 hz Q 0.9
Vintage Compressor (to deal with clicks and spikes)
Exciter (making the track as warm as possible)
Since the track is extremely dynamic I had to add a Limiter with a hard ceiling at -17.5 Db
I have tried plenty of settings and automation of the volume fader on the track - but either the track is extremely dominant (when I work gentle with the fader) or sounding thin and dead(when I work consequent and aggressively with the fader).
The total setup is:
Vocal
Drums
Acoustic Bass
Piano (gently EQ removal of low end - cut 0 db at 900 Hz)
Acoustic Guitar (Whole song - High Shelf EQ 350 hz to cut out of the Bass)
Fiddle (Pre-Verse and Solos)
Cello (Background from bar 61 to bar 135 (156 bar song in total))
Pedal Steel (only used for ambience at final Chorus and Final Verse)
Elec Distorted Guitar (only solo)
Jew Harp (only played in Pre-Verse parts)
Synth (adding ambience with Celtic Flute and Strings)
Tubular Bell (short ear candy)
Anyone of you dealt with a similar puzzle, where you can't get a Acoustic Bass to sit right in the mix?
_________________________
MacBook Pro 2011 i7 - BIAB2020 - Logic Pro X - iZotope Music Production Suite - Scaler 2 and Line 6 Guitars and boards
Peters' Garage is available on all major streaming services such as Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer....and many more
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#618714 - 10/11/20 02:57 PM
[Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production]
Re: How do I tame an Acoustic Bass in my mix and mastering?
[Re: Peters Garage]
|
|
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 9539
Loc: GA USA
Veteran
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 9539
Loc: GA USA
|
My go to setup is Waves Bass Rider (Gentle Ride preset) followed by one of Neutron 3’s dozen or so acoustic bass presets which I often tweak a bit after selection. I also use Neutron’s masking feature to allow the bass and kick drum to not step on one another in certain f ranges. .
Obviously if you don’t use these fx my post is irrelevant but I did want to mention them.
Bud
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#618716 - 10/11/20 03:19 PM
[Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production]
Re: How do I tame an Acoustic Bass in my mix and mastering?
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
|
Registered: 05/19/16
Posts: 108
Loc: Denmark
Apprentice
Registered: 05/19/16
Posts: 108
Loc: Denmark
|
Hi Janice & Bud thank you for taking the time to reply. I just purchased Waves Bass Rider (And Vocal Rider + ADT) plugin - and tested in front of my whole chain. I already have iZotope Music Production Suite and love it to death ;-) Also I setup a Sidechain Compressor leaving the Kick Drum as "boss" It has actually helped during mixing - so now I'm putting it through Ozone 8 with trembling hands 
_________________________
MacBook Pro 2011 i7 - BIAB2020 - Logic Pro X - iZotope Music Production Suite - Scaler 2 and Line 6 Guitars and boards
Peters' Garage is available on all major streaming services such as Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer....and many more
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
NEW! Xtra Styles PAK 10 & MultiStyles PAK 1 for Band-in-a-Box®!
We've just released some amazing new Add-ons for Band-in-a-Box® 2020!
Xtra Styles PAK 10 with 50 styles each for Country, Jazz, Rock-Pop, and Folk Celebration! These carefully crafted RealStyles include lo-fi acoustic guitar hip hop, triple-guitar garage rock, a barbeque boom-chick jam, slidin' lazy country blues, bolero and bossa nova fusion, a Gypsy and stride ballad, praise break organ jazz fusion, surfin' folk rock, barn dance old-time stomp 'n' clap, an acoustic folky blues jam, and so much more!
Introducing MultiStyles PAK 1! 30 MultiStyles containing 120 styles - that's a total of 150 Styles! We've included 10 MultiStyles each for Country, Jazz, and Rock-Pop. Our jazz greats MultiStyle allows you to switch between piano and guitar comping, or select from two different solos. Our Jamaican groove selecta allows you to switch from ska at one section to reggae, island groove, or reggae with sax solo at another. A Tex-Mex country MultiStyle allows you to switch between a regular-time and double-time feel. And that's just the beginning. There's so much more in store! Once you dive into these professionally-mixed MultiStyles, you'll wonder how you ever made due with only two substyles per song! Use one substyle for a softer intro, another one for a restrained breakdown, then throw in a different and energetic middle-eight, or change it up with a solo. The possibilities are endless!
And they're ON SALE!
Xtra Styles PAK 10, and ALL our Xtra Styles PAKs, are on sale for $29 (reg. $49) each! Haven't purchased Xtra Styles yet, but now you want them all? The COMPLETE collection of Xtra Styles PAKs 1-10 with over 1,600 RealStyles can be yours for only $199 (reg. $349)! There's also an option to purchase the newest Xtra Styles PAKs 9 & 10 for Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for a bundle price of $49, if you missed out on our previous special! www.pgmusic.com/xtrastyles.php?os=win
Purchase MultiStyles PAK 1 for only $19 (reg. $29)! Adding the 2021 49-PAK to your Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows purchase? No need to buy this separately, MultiStyles PAK 1 is included with it! www.pgmusic.com/addons.multistyles.php?os=win
Mac user? Click here for your OS specific product announcement.
Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows is HERE!
Just released: Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows with over 50 new features, 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Artist Performances, Bonus RealDrums "Singles," RealDrums transcriptions, MultiStyles PAK 1, Xtra Styles PAK 10, and more!
We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2021 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2020- save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows Upgrade!
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2021 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 40 Unreleased RealTracks and the just-released MultiStyles PAK 1) upgrade it to the 2021 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows at: www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm
Band-in-a-Box® for Mac - Audio Chord Wizard Overview Video
The Audio Chord Wizard included in Band-in-a-Box is a powerful feature that automatically figures out the chords from an audio file and imports them (as well as the audio) into Band-in-a-Box®, along with the bar lines, key, tempo, and fine tuning!
Check out this video, where we explain how to use the Audio Chord Wizard: Click here to watch...
Read more about the Audio Chord Wizard within our online program manual, here. Better yet - give it a try and see/hear for yourself how intelligent this feature is!
Clarinet RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!
Tutorial - Downloading and Installing Your Band-in-a-Box® Purchase
When you order your copy of Band-in-a-Box® from our website you'll receive the installation files to download your order, even if you're having it shipped!
You can access these files within the My Products section of your online account.
Downloading the program is such a convenient way to get started with Band-in-a-Box®! To learn more about how to download your purchase, please review the written tutorials we've created for Windows and Mac.
200+ Saxophone RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!
Where would music be today without the sultry sounds of the Saxophone? Fortunately, because of Adolphe Sax, we don't have to find out!
Today we celebrate his birthday, and with that a nod to our extensive collection of Saxophone RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!
Saxophone RealTracks sound so amazing that they were one of the first RealTracks we developed and released for the program with Band-in-a-Box® 2007! Now there are more than 200 Saxophone RealTracks available for Jazz, Rock, Blues, Country, Funk, and Pop!
Our Saxophone RealTracks Artists include:
Eric Alexander
Eric Marienthal
Gary Smulyan
Jack Stafford
Jim Clark
Mark Douthit
P.J. Perry
Phil Woods
Tom Keenlyside
Click on their name to be taken to their bio page where you can learn more about the artists and listen to demos of all their RealTracks.
Upgrading to Band-in-a-Box® 2020 is Easy!
Did you know... anyone who has owned a previous version of Band-in-a-Box® is entitle to upgrade pricing - you do not need to have your old version installed!
Maybe you used to own the Windows version, but you now have a Mac... that's not a problem either!
(or if you owned the Mac version, and now you have a Windows computer)
In both cases, you would purchase from the "Upgrade from 2018 or earlier or crossgrade" row here for a new Mac version, or here if you want the newest Windows version. Just need to upgrade your 2019 version? Use the "Upgrade from 2019/2020" row.
When you purchase your upgrade from either of these rows, you will receive a complete installation - just follow the steps of the setup, and your Band-in-a-Box® will be ready to use!
PG Music Inc. shopping cart accounts were not required to purchase from our website prior to October 29, 2014. With that in mind, you may have to create an account in order to upgrade - that's OK! You'll still be entitled to upgrade pricing.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
33257 Members
67 Forums
66348 Topics
568563 Posts
Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Previous Topic
Index
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean