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#593601 - 04/22/20 09:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller
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Scenario: I have that chord in my head and I'll know that I've got it when I hear it, but I've got nothing at hand to play around with to find it.

What to do?

My first thought was to use the Big Piano interface, but so far I've only been able to click on individual notes with the mouse, and finding a chord that way, let alone identifying it for the sake of then correctly type it into the sheet, is looking less than ideal or simple. Is there a way to play chords on the Big Piano without an external device that I just don't know about?
Or will I just have to accept that BBox is pretty useless for those without an external instrument, at least in this respect?! smirk
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#593620 - 04/22/20 11:29 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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Eddie,

Try using the Chord Builder feature.
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This feature allows you to hear and build chords up by clicking on the root, extension (and alternate root if applicable).

Launch the Chord Builder by choosing the Edit | Chord Builder menu option or with the keystrokes control+shift+H.


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#593629 - 04/22/20 11:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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Interesting, if slightly convoluted, idea, thanks for the input.

Are you by that suggesting that my hopes for the Big Piano having the solution are a dead end, then?
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#593702 - 04/22/20 05:44 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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Eddie,

I think the limitation with the big piano is not the piano but that the mouse can focus on only one location at a time. The Chord Builder provides a method for multiple notes to be selected.

The Chord Builder is always just a button click away from opening.


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#593764 - 04/23/20 07:54 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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I suppose that's true, but on the other hand, to use the chord builder for this particular purpose (i.e. not really what it was initially conceived for, I'd wager) has its limitations too. For one thing it rather depend on the user having some elementary notion of the connection between the sounds and the chord's names.
On a keyboard you can e.g. change just one note with your finger and instantly hear if you're getting closer to the mark while the name of what you did doesn't matter one bit, whereas attempting to do the same - while at the same time having no idea what the chord names in that interface actually mean (not even that a "minor" chord means that a certain note of the chord is a half-tone below a "major" chord!) - will have you face a helluvalot of some very random guesswork.
And again, are you sure you can't somehow use the computer keys to play that Big Piano thing? I haven't found a way, but if there is one I very much would like to know about it!

p.s. Maybe this just requires some designated implementation of something new by PG worthy of a request thread...
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#593794 - 04/23/20 10:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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Eddie,

One way to accomplish your idea (multiple contacts on the onscreen piano keyboard) would be to add multi-finger touchscreen support to the program. I can't think of an easy way to do it using a computer mouse.
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#594985 - 04/30/20 08:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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Hi

I know my response and solution is not inside BIAB, but have your tried this website

http://www.chorderator.com/designer/

I know it is guitar, but here you can find the chord based on the notes you play - and I found quite a few chords that are not in the BIAB supported list (or are yet to find out -that my music theory stinks, and the chord is there just in a different name).

I hope it helps a bit
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#595531 - 05/03/20 06:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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Well, this seems like a bit of let's go around rather than across, but to venture outside the Box (pun intended) for the answer is an angle I admittedly have overlooked. So I'll absolutely give this one a look, thanks for the tip cool

And now that you mention it, I've got another "long way round" inside my Daw, where I can use a feature which attempts to define (in writing) the chord of any cluster of notes that are playing simultaneously, so there's that too... but again, those do still fall under that "let's go around rather than across" which I find so annoying as solutions...
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#624987 - 11/25/20 06:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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Another workaround is to play the notes of the chord in your DAW - save it as/render to MP3, and let Audio Chord Wizard do the translation and see if that works.

Again it is not that path across - but maybe the view from going around is not the worst ;-)
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#631945 - 12/22/20 06:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Icelander]
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I don’t have the Mac version here, but doesn’t it have MIDI Chord Detection? This is one of my favorite functions in the Windows version. It’s in the Windows menu, and I don’t know what that might be on a Mac.
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#632033 - 12/23/20 06:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Mac FAQ] Re: Finding "that" chord without any external instrument or midi controller [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I don’t have the Mac version here, but doesn’t it have MIDI Chord Detection?
If by that you mean that quick'n-easy holding down the notes on your midi instrument and hit a certain keystroke combo to enter that chord into the sheet, then yes that's available on our end too. But that still hinges on actually having a midi instrument, which goes against my initial premise of this thread.
If, however, you are thinking of something entirely different, then a screenshot would be just the thing to clarify.
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